DawgPoundDaily - Browns showing interest in ILB Denzel Perryman
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Tour, seen much of the OLs on our PS?
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You mean other than Seymore, of whom I saw too much?
Some memory of Painter's college footage which no longer seems to be posted. He wowed at combine where he ran sub-5.0. Strong with speed and agility. Height and especially arms seem a bit short for ideal NFL OT, so might end up inside.
Karim Barton moved well and had good "punch", but was really raw. Came out of small school program (Morgan St.) lacking Pass drop technique as a RT primarily. At 6'3 he's even more likely to move inside.
Got nothing on Bowie or Andrew McDonald.
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My favorite player in the draft. He is the run stuffer/Chris Borland type player we need to stop the fun especially in a division with Leveon Bell and Jeremy Hill.
Ferocious hitter that would give our defense some attitude.
http://dawgpounddaily.com/2015/01/24/browns-rumor-team-gave-lot-attention-miami-lb/
The fun was stopped a long time ago. No need to draft anyone for that.My favorite player in the draft. He is the run stuffer/Chris Borland type player we need to stop the fun especially in a division with Leveon Bell and Jeremy Hill.
Ferocious hitter that would give our defense some attitude.
http://dawgpounddaily.com/2015/01/24/browns-rumor-team-gave-lot-attention-miami-lb/
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Wouldn't mind him in the second. I'd pass in the first.
I would love to see something like this.
1a. Kevin White, WR, WVU
-6'3", 210 lbs. Not going to blow anyone away in the 40 (think mid 4.4 range), but White is above average in every other aspect. We need a receiver who can go up and attack the ball in the air, and that's exactly what White does. He's a tall, strong receiver who's open even when he's covered. Gordon is gone, there's no two ways about it. Gabriel came on strong and Hawkins is a welcome asset, but we need a tall, strong guy to help free those two up. I'm full on in love with White as a prospect, I think he's going to be one of the best to come out in this draft.
1b. Vic Beasley, OLB/DE, Clemson
-6'3", 230 lbs. Beasley is undersized, but possesses that "boom or bust" quality. He's a fantastic pass rusher and, while its likely he'll play a majority of his snaps at 3-4 OLB, he still possesses the versatility to throw his hand in the dirt at 4-3 DE every once in a while. Some may be wary of drafting an undersized "pass-rushing specialist" because of the Mingo project, but Beasley is much more NFL ready than Mingo was. After the 2014 Draft, I can understand why some would want more of a sure thing in the first round, but I believe Beasley's upside is far too high to pass up. He's well-suited to become a Von Miller-like edge rusher.
2. Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami
-5'11", 244 lbs. Short, squat, mean - on paper, Perryman sounds like a great AFCN ILB. His instincts are great, he's quick in his reads, and his hips are fluid enough to cover all intermediate, rush busting routes. He's not going to take on defensive linemen with much success every Sunday, though. However, he's tough to block at the second level. He's the kind of linebacker Cleveland hasn't had in a while - a mean, stocky run stuffer.
3. Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon
-6'6" 299 lbs. Fisher isn't Joe Thomas. He likely won't be a perennial Pro Bowler. He's not an athletic freak, he's not physically dominating at the point of attack. What he is, however, is a blue-collar, solid, foundational lineman. He's versatile, he's hard-working, and by all accounts he's a great teammate. If there were ever a player to exemplify the "Play like a Brown" mentality, it would likely be Fisher. With long arms and solid technique, Fisher projects at RT, but could shift inside in a pinch if need be (due to injuries).
Wouldn't mind him in the second. I'd pass in the first.
I would love to see something like this.
1a. Kevin White, WR, WVU
-6'3", 210 lbs. Not going to blow anyone away in the 40 (think mid 4.4 range), but White is above average in every other aspect. We need a receiver who can go up and attack the ball in the air, and that's exactly what White does. He's a tall, strong receiver who's open even when he's covered. Gordon is gone, there's no two ways about it. Gabriel came on strong and Hawkins is a welcome asset, but we need a tall, strong guy to help free those two up. I'm full on in love with White as a prospect, I think he's going to be one of the best to come out in this draft.
Here's a video of Kevin White vs. Alabama
Here's what I see:
I love the way he attacks the ball at the highest point. Strong body, strong hands
Good route running
Great run blocking
However, he does't have elite speed like you said, as you can see on the screen passes. However he's a smart runner who uses blocks wisely and cuts at the right time.
I would be happy if we got him, I wouldn't take him with our first pick though. At #19 yes, and in the 2nd round he;d be a steal
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Wouldn't mind him in the second. I'd pass in the first.
I would love to see something like this.
1a. Kevin White, WR, WVU
-6'3", 210 lbs. Not going to blow anyone away in the 40 (think mid 4.4 range), but White is above average in every other aspect. We need a receiver who can go up and attack the ball in the air, and that's exactly what White does. He's a tall, strong receiver who's open even when he's covered. Gordon is gone, there's no two ways about it. Gabriel came on strong and Hawkins is a welcome asset, but we need a tall, strong guy to help free those two up. I'm full on in love with White as a prospect, I think he's going to be one of the best to come out in this draft.
Here's a video of Kevin White vs. Alabama
Here's what I see:
I love the way he attacks the ball at the highest point. Strong body, strong hands
Good route running
Great run blocking
However, he does't have elite speed like you said, as you can see on the screen passes. However he's a smart runner who uses blocks wisely and cuts at the right time.
I would be happy if we got him, I wouldn't take him with our first pick though. At #19 yes, and in the 2nd round he;d be a steal
I would be happy if we got him, I wouldn't take him with our first pick though. At #19 yes, and in the 2nd round he;d be a steal
He's a looker alright. My favorite, after Cooper of course.........and I agree #19 would be the appropriate place for us to pick him (though I think he'll be gone by then)...
Im gonna assume that the best ones wont be coming our way, as Farmer seems like he wont be picking WR in the first round.....
A couple interesting ones that may fall to the 2nd or even 3rd round are Funchess (6-5") and Devin Smith(deep baller, extraordinaire!!)....
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Wouldn't mind him in the second. I'd pass in the first.
I would love to see something like this.
1a. Kevin White, WR, WVU
-6'3", 210 lbs. Not going to blow anyone away in the 40 (think mid 4.4 range), but White is above average in every other aspect. We need a receiver who can go up and attack the ball in the air, and that's exactly what White does. He's a tall, strong receiver who's open even when he's covered. Gordon is gone, there's no two ways about it. Gabriel came on strong and Hawkins is a welcome asset, but we need a tall, strong guy to help free those two up. I'm full on in love with White as a prospect, I think he's going to be one of the best to come out in this draft.
Here's a video of Kevin White vs. Alabama
Here's what I see:
I love the way he attacks the ball at the highest point. Strong body, strong hands
Good route running
Great run blocking
However, he does't have elite speed like you said, as you can see on the screen passes. However he's a smart runner who uses blocks wisely and cuts at the right time.
I would be happy if we got him, I wouldn't take him with our first pick though. At #19 yes, and in the 2nd round he;d be a steal
I would be happy if we got him, I wouldn't take him with our first pick though. At #19 yes, and in the 2nd round he;d be a steal
White doesn't have elite top end, but he gets to his high gear in a few strides.
Fact is, some of the very best WR's in NFL history were not by any stretch "burners".
A couple interesting ones that may fall to the 2nd or even 3rd round are Funchess (6-5") and Devin Smith(deep baller, extraordinaire!!)....
Funchess might fall to the 2nd round because of his hands, Devin because there are times he's allergic to blocking and aside from the vertical threat its hard to get a gauge on his abilities in the full route tree.
If either falls to the second, I'd prefer Devin. Not simply because of tOSU thing, because he's a speed vertical threat and his hands have been far more consistent throughout his career than Funchess.
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I agree on speed. Overrated.
No doubt slow receivers don't work, but quickness and the ability to juke a bit to get open are far more mportant IMO. Just a shoulder dip and slight head turn the other way are usually enough to gain seperation from the defender.
Whatever happened to receivers working to get open rather than simply running a route and hope they get open?
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I would be happy if we got him, I wouldn't take him with our first pick though. At #19 yes, and in the 2nd round he;d be a steal
He's a looker alright. My favorite, after Cooper of course.........and I agree #19 would be the appropriate place for us to pick him (though I think he'll be gone by then)...
Im gonna assume that the best ones wont be coming our way, as Farmer seems like he wont be picking WR in the first round.....
A couple interesting ones that may fall to the 2nd or even 3rd round are Funchess (6-5") and Devin Smith(deep baller, extraordinaire!!)....
Never hurts to have at least one burner that can take the top off a D... assuming you have a QB that cannot be outrun. But no, speed alone is not enough... think Benji.
A couple interesting ones that may fall to the 2nd or even 3rd round are Funchess (6-5") and Devin Smith(deep baller, extraordinaire!!)....
Funchess as a part-time, hybrid TE now, a role he likely will grow into full-time in the future, is more interesting than he is as a pure WR.
Smith in Rnd 2 is very interesting. Not only has speed, but is also a great 50/50 ball guy for his size.
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Never hurts to have at least one burner that can take the top off a D... assuming you have a QB that cannot be outrun. But no, speed alone is not enough... think Benji.
A couple interesting ones that may fall to the 2nd or even 3rd round are Funchess (6-5") and Devin Smith(deep baller, extraordinaire!!)....
Funchess as a part-time, hybrid TE now, a role he likely will grow into full-time in the future, is more interesting than he is as a pure WR.
Smith in Rnd 2 is very interesting. Not only has speed, but is also a great 50/50 ball guy for his size.
Never hurts to have at least one burner that can take the top off a D... assuming you have a QB that cannot be outrun. But no, speed alone is not enough... think Benji.
Funchess as a part-time, hybrid TE now, a role he likely will grow into full-time in the future, is more interesting than he is as a pure WR.
Smith in Rnd 2 is very interesting. Not only has speed, but is also a great 50/50 ball guy for his size.
The huge problem with Funchess is he has miserable hands. People love his size but he has Greg Little-esque drops. He's going to go in the 2nd round or so cause of his size and what not but I don't want to see dropped passes again. I still have nightmares of Greg Little dropping a wide open pass and talking crap when he finally caught a 3 yard gainer on 3rd and 8.
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Never hurts to have at least one burner that can take the top off a D... assuming you have a QB that cannot be outrun. But no, speed alone is not enough... think Benji.
A couple interesting ones that may fall to the 2nd or even 3rd round are Funchess (6-5") and Devin Smith(deep baller, extraordinaire!!)....
Funchess as a part-time, hybrid TE now, a role he likely will grow into full-time in the future, is more interesting than he is as a pure WR.
Smith in Rnd 2 is very interesting. Not only has speed, but is also a great 50/50 ball guy for his size.
Never hurts to have at least one burner that can take the top off a D... assuming you have a QB that cannot be outrun. But no, speed alone is not enough... think Benji.
Funchess as a part-time, hybrid TE now, a role he likely will grow into full-time in the future, is more interesting than he is as a pure WR.
Smith in Rnd 2 is very interesting. Not only has speed, but is also a great 50/50 ball guy for his size.
Yeah...not sure on where Funchess is best....he was "better" as a TE than WR.....
I guess anyone that gets considered for the mid - later rounds is gonna have issues....Smith and Funchess included.
Im really trying to fill the void on our receiving corp, as we dont have a deep threat/burner or a big rangy type to go up and get it....Funchess fills that void(esp with Cameron possibly leaving).......
And Smith has a mind numbing 28 yd average per catch....and 12 td's in 33 catches......extraordinary numbers......WOW!!!
The way things go with the media, by draft day, Smith could be wayyyyyy up there.....
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