Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Oh, LOOK, WALTER ! Manziel and Gordon were caught playing
kickball in the snow !!!
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although Im fed up with both of these losers.....this post is just as lame.....and the source is even worse.....talk about sensationalism...
Lets see.....is it JFF and Gordon?.....questionable, at best....
are they "getting wasted", as OP declares??......pure speculation, at best.....
were these taken this weekend?.....who knows?
Yet, we get a post called " Johnny and Gordon getting wasted this weekend"....any facts at all??......any???
The source?......"Terez Owens.....Sports Gossip....real sports-real dirt".....WOW, why even read shit like this???
although Im fed up with both of these losers.....this post is just as lame.....and the source is even worse.....talk about sensationalism...
Lets see.....is it JFF and Gordon?.....questionable, at best....
are they "getting wasted", as OP declares??......pure speculation, at best.....
were these taken this weekend?.....who knows?
Yet, we get a post called " Johnny and Gordon getting wasted this weekend"....any facts at all??......any???
The source?......"Terez Owens.....Sports Gossip....real sports-real dirt".....WOW, why even read shit like this???
Yeah man, it's not even questionable. I re-looked at the first picture making sure I didn't see something this morning and wow. Gordon and the guy in the picture are nothing alike other than the fact that they are both black. I swear I wish stuff like this could face real discipline from the legal world.
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Zombo said:
TMZ captured Gordon giving Johnny drugs:
They're doing a number on JFF. look at the weight he has lost.
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Zombo said:
TMZ captured Gordon giving Johnny drugs:
They're doing a number on JFF. look at the weight he has lost.
They're doing a number on JFF. look at the weight he has lost.
yeah it's amazing what [photo shop can do
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I have finally come to the terms of reality, Manziel has made me look like a god damn fool.
It's time to cut him to be made an example of. Move on from him. He simply doesn't give a fuck about football.
I have finally come to the terms of reality, Manziel has made me look like a god damn fool.
It's time to cut him to be made an example of. Move on from him. He simply doesn't give a fuck about football.
I have finally come to the terms of reality, Manziel has made me look like a god damn fool.
It's time to cut him to be made an example of. Move on from him. He simply doesn't give a fuck about football.
yeah, and who fucking drafted him....the browns front ofc...big fuckup there...you can brag all you want about how they made some of these so called great draft picks over the yrs...and they have, just not enough of them...way more busts than good picks..but when you bust on a qb, the most important player on the team..that is a major fuckup bust...and not getting rid of gordon, another major fuckup bust...my prediction...they win 4 games next season because they play the nfc and afc west divisions...bad times ahead still....
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although Im fed up with both of these losers.....this post is just as lame.....and the source is even worse.....talk about sensationalism...
Lets see.....is it JFF and Gordon?.....questionable, at best....
are they "getting wasted", as OP declares??......pure speculation, at best.....
were these taken this weekend?.....who knows?
Yet, we get a post called " Johnny and Gordon getting wasted this weekend"....any facts at all??......any???
The source?......"Terez Owens.....Sports Gossip....real sports-real dirt".....WOW, why even read shit like this???
although Im fed up with both of these losers.....this post is just as lame.....and the source is even worse.....talk about sensationalism...
Lets see.....is it JFF and Gordon?.....questionable, at best....
are they "getting wasted", as OP declares??......pure speculation, at best.....
were these taken this weekend?.....who knows?
Yet, we get a post called " Johnny and Gordon getting wasted this weekend"....any facts at all??......any???
The source?......"Terez Owens.....Sports Gossip....real sports-real dirt".....WOW, why even read shit like this???
i agree partially, maybe the source is bad...maybe not...but one thing i do know....both these assholes have the mentality to make me believe it is 100 percent correctomundo...
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that's okay. Since under my system we will be forcing a three and out after every one of our kickoffs that should cut down on the number of returns too.
WSS
HA!....then well be catching all our punts inside the 50 anyhow....no returns even needed....I can see it now.....
Browns kick off......and cream the return guy on the 8
Then...1st play.....Browns intercept.....
Next play..............Browns score
Browns kick off.....and REPEAT.....
And so it shall be......
HA!....then well be catching all our punts inside the 50 anyhow....no returns even needed....I can see it now.....
Browns kick off......and cream the return guy on the 8
Then...1st play.....Browns intercept.....
Next play..............Browns score
Browns kick off.....and REPEAT.....
And so it shall be......
Sounds like a game plan to me!!
WSS
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VesnaKociper said:
The thing that has always gotten me into heated debates on this board even more than my very quick verdicts on Browns employees........
- Wanted Crennell fired after 2 quarters of the first pre season game
- Wanted Phil Sewage fired before he ever set up his office
- Thought William Green should have been kidnapped, killed and turned into an insurance claim for the Browns before he ever showed up to play
- Get rid of Cribbs 3 years before we did, when he still could fool people into thinking he was more than shit.....and he was, at his best, SHIT.
And even more than the unequalled accuracy of my predictions,
is my total disbelief at how many fans here are really incapable to posting a fucking original thought, you know, something that they haven't heard in the media.
For instance, what kind of a man would ever use the phrase, ticky-tacky? Yet, some, obviously homosexuals, have posted those very words right here.
So now I have to read idiotic bullshit like.............
- I'd like to see him succeed in Cleveland....but he is going to have to (prove, demonstrate, change, adjust... blah blah fucking blah)
- If Manziel has another year like this he is not going to be an NFL QB very long
- We need to see what he can do as the undisputed starter
Seriously, WTF are you people thinking? There is not IF here, there is no FUTURE here. There are no adjustments, changes, commitment, or any other thing that can happen with Johnny Manziel that is going to make him a good QB. He can't play. He fuck's off because he can't play.
Do you people want to talk about real football, or just engage in mental masturbation about pretend shit that is nothing more than childish fiction. Manziel IS A BUST. He was a fucking bust when Haslam forced the drafting of him.
Good grief!
here is the bottom line...1 playoff appearance since the comeback...only 2 winning seasons...1 which we choked against 2 of the worst teams in the nfl...arizona and the bengals...and didn't make the playoffs, so you can brag about all the players you want because it doesn't mean jack shit unless you win a championship...
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I would give precisely two shits about this if Manziel hadn't been doing this during the season, evidently. Gordon however, we just heard you're gonna go down "yet again" but this time it's for real the whole fucking season....and you get snapped out and about doing this? They just don't get it.
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IMHO it's more a matter of him 'not giving a fuck'. i think he got what he wanted by getting drafted in the first round (he prob thought he was top ten material) then came to camp last year and realized things weren't going to be given to him and when it was he crapped the bed. i think he's content with earning some extra loot sitting on the bench somewhere until he's out of the league, then he'll go open some firm with lebron on daddy's dime and fade into the sunset.
don't think he wants to be in cleveland and his continual screw-ups are a way for him to get out of his contract and go closer to home where everyone is still convinced he is great.
also don't think booze has anything to do with it. 22 and going out with friends is the NORM, sticking it to the owner who went out of his way to draft you, is not.
IMHO it's more a matter of him 'not giving a fuck'. i think he got what he wanted by getting drafted in the first round (he prob thought he was top ten material) then came to camp last year and realized things weren't going to be given to him and when it was he crapped the bed. i think he's content with earning some extra loot sitting on the bench somewhere until he's out of the league, then he'll go open some firm with lebron on daddy's dime and fade into the sunset.
don't think he wants to be in cleveland and his continual screw-ups are a way for him to get out of his contract and go closer to home where everyone is still convinced he is great.
also don't think booze has anything to do with it. 22 and going out with friends is the NORM, sticking it to the owner who went out of his way to draft you, is not.
i know he doesn't want to be in cleveland, who the fuck does...look at the history of this team....would you other than to gain a paycheck, like most of the fa's we have acquired since the comeback...its a piece of shit organization with a revolving door that is still active..
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if he's got a drinking problem then god help us all, because lordy them college kids can throw some mean keggers and they're the future of this country.
RUN FOR THE HILLS!
his problem isn't with booze. his problem is the celeb spotlight which he wants more than a nfl career as a qb. the only reason he's still suiting up is because it is a way to fulfill his goal of being relevant.
if he's got a drinking problem then god help us all, because lordy them college kids can throw some mean keggers and they're the future of this country.
RUN FOR THE HILLS!
his problem isn't with booze. his problem is the celeb spotlight which he wants more than a nfl career as a qb. the only reason he's still suiting up is because it is a way to fulfill his goal of being relevant.
give the midget a snickers bar...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA...ooooo, ooooo, oooo, lets get brady quinn back for his sportsdrink comercial..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA....FUCKING CLEEEEEEEEVLIN
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Hmmm Joe Haden has a different opinion than what has been reported.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_browns_joe_haden_joh.html
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Karlos Dansby also said today that Johnny can lead them to a superbowl
Everyone got drunk on bashing Johnny... now that the smoke is cleared the truth is coming to light.. Johnny is still very much our future.
Which is why we are hiring his pro-day coach as our QB coach, and that coach was cut for Brian Hoyer from the Patriots.. so he probably hates Brian..
I love it.. you cant write this stuff
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Hmmm Joe Haden has a different opinion than what has been reported.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_browns_joe_haden_joh.html
Hmmm Joe Haden has a different opinion than what has been reported.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_browns_joe_haden_joh.html
Alot of talk locally about Joe today and yesterday and his good words about Johnny....
First, let's be clear.....Joe is as nice as they come....and he is ALL TEAM - ALL THE TIME.....and he is also one of the primary "faces" of the Browns....and props to JOE, he is also the Ambassador to the special olympics....good guy award goes to him...
and because of this, he is at the Super Bowl...getting red carpet treatment....and talking at media day....
and, being the face of the Brwons and KNOWING he'd be asked a million Johnny questions....Im certain that they asked Joe to start a positive spin and get things going in the right direction.....
and now Dansby is chiming in too.....they are doing the "team thing" and working toward building his image back.....for us.....
...or any potential suitors.....
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People saw the tweets and blurbs today and wrote Joe off as just being a nice guy.. but in the full article.. he went WAAAY deeper into it.. take a look
PHOENIX, Ariz. -- Browns cornerback Joe Haden, fresh off the Pro Bowl and making the rounds on radio row at the Super Bowl Wednesday, took exception to one of his teammates anonymously blasting Johnny Manziel last week.
"Johnny is definitely not a joke,'' Haden, who's in town in his new role as a Global Ambassador for the Special Olympics, told Northeast Ohio Media Group. "It's not true at all that Johnny's teammates think he's a 100% joke.''
Haden was referring to a story last week on ESPN.com that quoted an unnamed Browns player saying that Manziel throughout the 2014 season was a "100% joke.''
Haden was bothered by the fact that a teammate would rip Manziel that way, especially without using his name. He pointed out that teammates Donte Whitner and Karlos Dansby constructively criticized rookie Justin Gilbert during the season, but did so on the record.
"That unnamed source thing really gets on my nerves,'' he said.
On the contrary, Haden said the players he interacts on a daily basis really like and support Manziel.
"Oh for sure,'' said Haden. "Everybody. Me, Phil Taylor loves him. Travis (Benjamin) loves him. There's a lot of players on the team that do so I don't really know. You'd have to find that person who said that.''
Haden, who's become friends with Manziel, also disagreed that No. 22 pick did not prepare hard and that he wasn't ready to play.
"For most of the season, he was the backup,'' said Haden. "He was doing what he was supposed to do. (Brian) Hoyer was out there balling, he was the starting quarterback. What do you want him to do? He was the backup.''
Haden said that if Manziel didn't always excel in practice, there was a good reason.
"We have a really good defense, so sometimes it wasn't really Johnny's fault,'' said Haden. "Our defense is really good at practice, so you're not going to just shred us. Of course you're going to have bumps in the road.''
Haden said Manziel looked like Johnny Football to him in practice, and Dansby, who was also doing interviews here Wednesday on radio show, stressed that Manziel gave the defense good looks in practice.
"He makes plays with his feet,'' said Haden. "He makes things happen. He's a very exciting player. He was throwing the ball really well. I didn't really see that (he wasn't practicing well).''
Haden said he watched people pile on to Manziel all season, and now this offseason.
"Johnny takes too much bashing for nothing and the thing is that being a quarterback in the NFL is so much harder,'' he said. "They can't do anything. If Johnny is to do anything that shows him having fun instead of being in the meeting room, they blow him up.''
Haden said he never recalls Manziel being late until he overslept for his treatment the day before the season finale. Manziel was on injured reserve at the time and not eligible to participate in the walk-through.
"He wasn't supposed to be at the walk-through,'' said Haden. "He needed treatment. You're a quarterback, you need treatment, I understand that, definitely. I'm not trying to give him a pass on that, but still, one little treatment and he didn't have to be there. He was on IR. It was probably one of the only times he messed up.''
He said the transgression, like everything else in the life of Johnny Football, becomes larger than life.
"He understands what's going on, and this season he's going to be able to show that a lot better,'' said Haden.
Haden has encouraged him to take some time off during the offseason and not feel pressured to go into a bunker.
"I'm like, 'dude, you still have to live life. You're still a young dude and it is the offseason' and he knows now,'' said Haden. "I've been talking to him about, when the season starts, OTAs, minicamps, he's going to be in there grinding he and knows that he has to stay extra and get it with the new coach (offensive coordinator John DeFilippo) and figure out the systems and all of that. But right now, relax your shoulders.
"Relax, chill, breathe. Because when he comes back, he knows now -- when I hit rock bottom when I got suspended for Adderall, people were coming at me like I've never had that coming at me before and I felt a certain type of way and I just knew then that I needed to change.''
Haden is as convinced as ever that Manziel has what it takes to be a good quarterback.
"For sure, for sure,'' said Haden. "Because he's shown he has the ability. He has the talent. He has all of the tools.''
Thank the lord for Joe Haden..
Dansby also came out with MORE stuff..
PHOENIX, Ariz. -- Browns linebacker Karlos Dansby disputed the notion that Johnny Manziel didn't practice well throughout the season.
"Johnny gave us some great looks,'' Dansby told Northeast Ohio Media Group while making rounds on radio row Wednesday at the Super Bowl. "I can't lie. He was giving us that every day. He was making us better as a defense every day.
"Like I said, it's a different level when you get on the field and you get thrown into the action like that. It's a tough situation for him, not having any reps throughout the whole season and then getting thrown into the fire.''
Manziel, who finished the season on injured reserve with his pulled hamstring, flopped miserably in his first start -- a 30-0 loss to the Bengals in the biggest game of the season, and improved somewhat the following week against the Panthers before leaving the game with the hamstring injury. But all in all, even coach Mike Pettine had to admit that Manziel's two starts "weren't very encouraging'' and that the Browns quarterback outlook is muddy at best.
"When opportunities present themselves you've got to take advantage of it,'' said Dansby. "If you don't, people start to question your character and if this game is for you and that's just how this game goes.''
Dansby, who warned both Manziel and fellow first-rounder Justin Gilbert that they'd be out of the league soon if they didn't dedicate themselves to the game, disagreed with the teammate who told espn.com that Manziel didn't look good in practice this season. He echoed the sentiments of Joe Haden, who saw flashes of Johnny Football in practice, which is probably why the Browns started him against the Bengals.
"He looked great,'' said Dansby. "He was extending plays, making plays, making plays down the field, putting the ball where it needs to be. He was making the defense work, so it was a good sight to see.''
From what Dansby saw every day in practice, when Manziel was primarily simulating the opposing quarterback and running the opponents' plays, he thinks Manziel has what it takes.
"Success,'' said Dansby. "I see success if he works hard at it. The guy is talented. He can be a talented player for a long time to come. He's unique in the way he plays the game and hopefully he can continue to grow and become a better player.''
Dansby said Manziel, like Gilbert, just needs to put it all together.
"They're young and this was their first year,'' he said. "Like I said, they didn't know what to expect going into it, but now they know it's a man's game. And I think they'll make the adjustments, because they have made the adjustments in college to be successful. Hopefully this offseason we'll see the improvement and it will carry over into the season.''
Dansby was also disappointed to hear that All-Pro receiver Josh Gordon violated the substance abuse policy again and is facing banishment from the league for at least a year.
"It's unfortunate,'' he said. "The kid was trying to turn the corner to have a setback like that, we've got to continue to reach out to him and to continue to surround him and be his brothers and be there for him, uplift him and hopefully he can bounce back from this and he can learn from his mistakes.''
Clearly this isnt them just toeing the "team line" and "being nice"
No its not a case of "What else are they going to say..."
Because they did not have to go that far with it and you know it.
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I still stand by what I believe, Manziel will be actively shopped during this offseason and the draft.
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