Open Letter *from* Josh Gordon
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It certainly doesn't seem like he's come to grips with the fact that he has a problem.
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If this is indeed what actually happened, then I revoke my previous statement on him not giving a fuck.
This letter is a fantastic (clearly ghost written) glimpse into Gordon's psyche and motivations. It shows you where he comes from and maybe where he wants to go. You know what would be a better proof of maturation, however?
Playing an entire season.
Do that, and we're golden. Stop "making mistakes" or "putting yourself in bad situations".
The only suspension I'd accept is the one he gets for knocking Manziel the fuck out and telling him to leave him alone.
If this is indeed what actually happened, then I revoke my previous statement on him not giving a fuck.
You know what would be a better proof of maturation, however?
Playing an entire season.
Do that, and we're golden. Stop "making mistakes" or "putting yourself in bad situations".
This would be my stance with both Josh and Johnny.....simply put.......shut up and prove it.
Until then, Im "uninvested".....
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Josh Gordon just confirmed what I thought. The guy uses his upbringing as an excuse for being a dumb shit. We get it, Josh. You are not an addict, just a fucking moron.
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Definitely ghost written.i hate to sound harsh but his "life story" is a match with 100 other NFL guys who don't keep "making mistakes". At this point sad to say if he is truly not an addict or set medicating an underlying medical condition he is a pure dumbass. I personally believe he is firmly in denial but that's just my opinion. I can tell you that when first confronted with friends calling out my addiction I answered with very similar sentiments as Josh. I SINCERELY believed I wasn't an addict for years. I of course was wrong. Thank god I finally figured out it was not my past, not my friends, not my bad conscious decisions, not a few mistakes but a debilitating disease. But hey that's my story perhaps his is different.
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That was an interesting read. The one red flag I saw was when JG said he tested positive for pot from second hand smoke. That is not impossible but it is unlikely.
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Eh call me whatever for this but after reading every word of this I feel no different. I respect Gordon for getting out of poverty and as a personal advocate for social matters can understand how difficult it is to escape that life he grew up in. But you can only cry wolf so many times before I just don't believe it. I don't even think it's an addiction thing just more a guy who doesn't wanna get his life together. Words are words but actions are louder.
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That was an interesting read. The one red flag I saw was when JG said he tested positive for pot from second hand smoke. That is not impossible but it is unlikely.
The one red flag I saw was when JG said he tested positive for pot from second hand smoke. That is not impossible but it is unlikely.
Not at the levels in effect at the time, OBF... it's one of the reasons the levels were changed.
I am kinda curious as to the other Browns on the "private flight". Should take all of a week before that info comes out.
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Definitely ghost written.i hate to sound harsh but his "life story" is a match with 100 other NFL guys who don't keep "making mistakes". At this point sad to say if he is truly not an addict or set medicating an underlying medical condition he is a pure dumbass. I personally believe he is firmly in denial but that's just my opinion. I can tell you that when first confronted with friends calling out my addiction I answered with very similar sentiments as Josh. I SINCERELY believed I wasn't an addict for years. I of course was wrong. Thank god I finally figured out it was not my past, not my friends, not my bad conscious decisions, not a few mistakes but a debilitating disease. But hey that's my story perhaps his is different.
Definitely ghost written.i hate to sound harsh but his "life story" is a match with 100 other NFL guys who don't keep "making mistakes". At this point sad to say if he is truly not an addict or set medicating an underlying medical condition he is a pure dumbass. I personally believe he is firmly in denial but that's just my opinion. I can tell you that when first confronted with friends calling out my addiction I answered with very similar sentiments as Josh. I SINCERELY believed I wasn't an addict for years. I of course was wrong. Thank god I finally figured out it was not my past, not my friends, not my bad conscious decisions, not a few mistakes but a debilitating disease. But hey that's my story perhaps his is different.
As is mine Jcam. Even as I was suffering through some gruesome shit still held onto the lie that I had it all under control and that the world was just out to shit on me.
I'm not going to sit here and call Josh and addict. That's not my place nor does anyone truely know the asnswer to that question but Flash himself. I will however, from a distance, draw parallels to my own experiences.
In reality none of us know a goddamn thing about Flash. I just wish him the best and pray that if he does suffer from addiction that may his fall to the bottom be fast and brutal and his recovery a success. The majority of true addicts do not recover until they have destroyed every trace of their true self.
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When you're on probation for a DUI it is.
What problem are you fixing exactly? An alleged drinking problem or a problem understanding when the league season ends? Perhaps the former Browns WR coach who appears to have been on that same plane should have said something to Josh.
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What problem are you fixing exactly? An alleged drinking problem or a problem understanding when the league season ends? Perhaps the former Browns WR coach who appears to have been on that same plane should have said something to Josh.
I think the main issue is at what point does an adult have to act like one?
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What problem are you fixing exactly? An alleged drinking problem or a problem understanding when the league season ends? Perhaps the former Browns WR coach who appears to have been on that same plane should have said something to Josh.
Addiction in general, I have a dear family member that went from one vice to another. Keeping them abstinent from substance usually forces someone to confront themselves and their addictions.
And even if the NFL isn't fixing anything, who gives a flying fuck? You're mandated to not consume whilst on DUI - don't do it. Pretty simple math.
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Some of guys are quick to call it a 'disease'? Like he said, you guys don't know shit.
A man opens up to the world about his problems, you guys see excuses. Pity.
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The one red flag I saw was when JG said he tested positive for pot from second hand smoke. That is not impossible but it is unlikely.
Not at the levels in effect at the time, OBF... it's one of the reasons the levels were changed.
I am kinda curious as to the other Browns on the "private flight". Should take all of a week before that info comes out.
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Josh Gordon just confirmed what I thought. The guy uses his upbringing as an excuse for being a dumb shit. We get it, Josh. You are not an addict, just a fucking moron.
Josh Gordon just confirmed what I thought. The guy uses his upbringing as an excuse for being a dumb shit. We get it, Josh. You are not an addict, just a fucking moron.
AMEN Brother
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Some of guys are quick to call it a 'disease'? Like he said, you guys don't know shit.
A man opens up to the world about his problems, you guys see excuses. Pity.
Some of guys are quick to call it a 'disease'? Like he said, you guys don't know shit.
A man opens up to the world about his problems, you guys see excuses. Pity.
Yeah we should definitely throw a little pity party for every millionaire who fucks up and blames it on their childhood. Sorry if sob stories mean exactly jack shit to me. I grew up rough too and it didn't stop me from living a productive life.
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I think what we're seeing with a lot of these young dudes is that party now while you're "somebody" mentality. While your name still gets you in the door at places people wanna be. I think that's the biggest thing going on here. Manziel's got it too. Football is a way for them to be famous, they're not "football players"...just guys that play the sport cause they showed aptitude for it. The workmen are the guys who truly loved the sport and didn't care about being famous for anything else...football wasn't a stepping stone for them. Somebody got to Lewis's ear after that murder he was involved with and after that you never saw that dude anywhere but on a football field. I'm sure he did party but he did it discreetly. Gordon and Manziel just aren't like that. I'll give Gronk credit cause he's an utter buffoon off season but during....dude is all business.
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Some of guys are quick to call it a 'disease'? Like he said, you guys don't know shit.
A man opens up to the world about his problems, you guys see excuses. Pity.
Yeah we should definitely throw a little pity party for every millionaire who fucks up and blames it on their childhood. Sorry if sob stories mean exactly jack shit to me. I grew up rough too and it didn't stop me from living a productive life.
Yeah we should definitely throw a little pity party for every millionaire who fucks up and blames it on their childhood. Sorry if sob stories mean exactly jack shit to me. I grew up rough too and it didn't stop me from living a productive life.
It's a lot more than what you make it out to be. I commend you on succeeding despite your rough upbringing. Really, I do.
But you can not judge the man when 1) ostracizing him on the details do no one any good and 2) most facts are simply opinions. Just because someone denies being a drug addict, it doesn't mean he is. He apologized for being a fuck up. Quite frankly I find his story humanizing and compelling. You're not in any position to call someone a drug addict when he clearly stated he hasn't touched a spliff since coming into this league.
Pretend you believe him for just a second. Put yourself in his shoes: You're a marked man coming into the league (and let's suppose he's telling the truth). He rarely drinks, and one of the few instances he shows a moment of weakness, he gets called in for testing. Those that do not know him chime in and manipulate the details to fit their agenda or biases, not-knowing (or knowing) the extent of their actions. Someone who happened to drive when drunk-that-one-time and a substance abuser are two very different things. It's an insult to those who battle actual drug addiction.
If anything, he's an idiot, not a drug addict.
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Yeah we should definitely throw a little pity party for every millionaire who fucks up and blames it on their childhood. Sorry if sob stories mean exactly jack shit to me. I grew up rough too and it didn't stop me from living a productive life.
It's a lot more than what you make it out to be. I commend you on succeeding despite your rough upbringing. Really, I do.
But you can not judge the man when 1) ostracizing him on the details do no one any good and 2) most facts are simply opinions. Just because someone denies being a drug addict, it doesn't mean he is. He apologized for being a fuck up. Quite frankly I find his story humanizing and compelling. You're not in any position to call someone a drug addict when he clearly stated he hasn't touched a spliff since coming into this league.
Pretend you believe him for just a second. Put yourself in his shoes: You're a marked man coming into the league (and let's suppose he's telling the truth). He rarely drinks, and one of the few instances he shows a moment of weakness, he gets called in for testing. Those that do not know him chime in and manipulate the details to fit their agenda or biases, not-knowing (or knowing) the extent of their actions. Someone who happened to drive when drunk-that-one-time and a substance abuser are two very different things. It's an insult to those who battle actual drug addiction.
If anything, he's an idiot, not a drug addict.
Kicked out of one school for failing multiple drug tests. Suspended from playing at second school for failing drug tests. Came into the NFL's drug program out of college, suspended two games for failing drug tests. Then, suspended an entire season for failing.... Survey says... Drug tests.If anything, he's an idiot, not a drug addict.
He was fortunate enough to be a beneficial on the timing of a new CBA otherwise it would have been a full year. Probation - no drugs, no alcohol. Period.
Now this. So tell me, friend-o, for failing drug tests continuously throughout school and now at the professional level threatening his livelyhood, how the fuck is that not addictive behavior!!??
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