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Open Letter *from* Josh Gordon

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  • Some of guys are quick to call it a 'disease'? Like he said, you guys don't know shit.

    A man opens up to the world about his problems, you guys see excuses. Pity.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    The one red flag I saw was when JG said he tested positive for pot from second hand smoke. That is not impossible but it is unlikely.

    Not at the levels in effect at the time, OBF... it's one of the reasons the levels were changed.

    I am kinda curious as to the other Browns on the "private flight". Should take all of a week before that info comes out.

    @tour2ma said:

    Not at the levels in effect at the time, OBF... it's one of the reasons the levels were changed.

    I am kinda curious as to the other Browns on the "private flight". Should take all of a week before that info comes out.

    There were pictures a while back, it was the WR group, plus Haden.

  • Josh Gordon just confirmed what I thought. The guy uses his upbringing as an excuse for being a dumb shit. We get it, Josh. You are not an addict, just a fucking moron.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Josh Gordon just confirmed what I thought. The guy uses his upbringing as an excuse for being a dumb shit. We get it, Josh. You are not an addict, just a fucking moron.

    AMEN Brother

  • @tour2ma said:

    Not at the levels in effect at the time, OBF... it's one of the reasons the levels were changed.

    I am kinda curious as to the other Browns on the "private flight". Should take all of a week before that info comes out.

    There were pictures a while back, it was the WR group, plus Haden.

    @gftchris said:

    There were pictures a while back, it was the WR group, plus Haden.

    Ya I saw the picture on instagram or something. There was a token white guy ... i think the receivers coach that left with Shanny. I guees no one said "Josh are sure it's OK to drink now?"

    Z

  • Some of guys are quick to call it a 'disease'? Like he said, you guys don't know shit.

    A man opens up to the world about his problems, you guys see excuses. Pity.

    @secondwave said:

    Some of guys are quick to call it a 'disease'? Like he said, you guys don't know shit.

    A man opens up to the world about his problems, you guys see excuses. Pity.

    Yeah we should definitely throw a little pity party for every millionaire who fucks up and blames it on their childhood. Sorry if sob stories mean exactly jack shit to me. I grew up rough too and it didn't stop me from living a productive life.

  • I think what we're seeing with a lot of these young dudes is that party now while you're "somebody" mentality. While your name still gets you in the door at places people wanna be. I think that's the biggest thing going on here. Manziel's got it too. Football is a way for them to be famous, they're not "football players"...just guys that play the sport cause they showed aptitude for it. The workmen are the guys who truly loved the sport and didn't care about being famous for anything else...football wasn't a stepping stone for them. Somebody got to Lewis's ear after that murder he was involved with and after that you never saw that dude anywhere but on a football field. I'm sure he did party but he did it discreetly. Gordon and Manziel just aren't like that. I'll give Gronk credit cause he's an utter buffoon off season but during....dude is all business.

  • @secondwave said:

    Some of guys are quick to call it a 'disease'? Like he said, you guys don't know shit.

    A man opens up to the world about his problems, you guys see excuses. Pity.

    Yeah we should definitely throw a little pity party for every millionaire who fucks up and blames it on their childhood. Sorry if sob stories mean exactly jack shit to me. I grew up rough too and it didn't stop me from living a productive life.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Yeah we should definitely throw a little pity party for every millionaire who fucks up and blames it on their childhood. Sorry if sob stories mean exactly jack shit to me. I grew up rough too and it didn't stop me from living a productive life.

    It's a lot more than what you make it out to be. I commend you on succeeding despite your rough upbringing. Really, I do.

    But you can not judge the man when 1) ostracizing him on the details do no one any good and 2) most facts are simply opinions. Just because someone denies being a drug addict, it doesn't mean he is. He apologized for being a fuck up. Quite frankly I find his story humanizing and compelling. You're not in any position to call someone a drug addict when he clearly stated he hasn't touched a spliff since coming into this league.

    Pretend you believe him for just a second. Put yourself in his shoes: You're a marked man coming into the league (and let's suppose he's telling the truth). He rarely drinks, and one of the few instances he shows a moment of weakness, he gets called in for testing. Those that do not know him chime in and manipulate the details to fit their agenda or biases, not-knowing (or knowing) the extent of their actions. Someone who happened to drive when drunk-that-one-time and a substance abuser are two very different things. It's an insult to those who battle actual drug addiction.

    If anything, he's an idiot, not a drug addict.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Yeah we should definitely throw a little pity party for every millionaire who fucks up and blames it on their childhood. Sorry if sob stories mean exactly jack shit to me. I grew up rough too and it didn't stop me from living a productive life.

    It's a lot more than what you make it out to be. I commend you on succeeding despite your rough upbringing. Really, I do.

    But you can not judge the man when 1) ostracizing him on the details do no one any good and 2) most facts are simply opinions. Just because someone denies being a drug addict, it doesn't mean he is. He apologized for being a fuck up. Quite frankly I find his story humanizing and compelling. You're not in any position to call someone a drug addict when he clearly stated he hasn't touched a spliff since coming into this league.

    Pretend you believe him for just a second. Put yourself in his shoes: You're a marked man coming into the league (and let's suppose he's telling the truth). He rarely drinks, and one of the few instances he shows a moment of weakness, he gets called in for testing. Those that do not know him chime in and manipulate the details to fit their agenda or biases, not-knowing (or knowing) the extent of their actions. Someone who happened to drive when drunk-that-one-time and a substance abuser are two very different things. It's an insult to those who battle actual drug addiction.

    If anything, he's an idiot, not a drug addict.

    @secondwave said:

    If anything, he's an idiot, not a drug addict.

    Kicked out of one school for failing multiple drug tests. Suspended from playing at second school for failing drug tests. Came into the NFL's drug program out of college, suspended two games for failing drug tests. Then, suspended an entire season for failing.... Survey says... Drug tests.

    He was fortunate enough to be a beneficial on the timing of a new CBA otherwise it would have been a full year. Probation - no drugs, no alcohol. Period.

    Now this. So tell me, friend-o, for failing drug tests continuously throughout school and now at the professional level threatening his livelyhood, how the fuck is that not addictive behavior!!??

  • As heartfelt a letter it was... In the end he "still made the wrong choice" Knowing he could get tested at anytime.. I stlll think Cris Carter got it right.. JG gives himself enablers.. And did so again with letter.. That was obviously penned by her agent and attorney.. Too late Josh.. But you blew it.. and now it's time to own up...

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Yeah we should definitely throw a little pity party for every millionaire who fucks up and blames it on their childhood. Sorry if sob stories mean exactly jack shit to me. I grew up rough too and it didn't stop me from living a productive life.

    It's a lot more than what you make it out to be. I commend you on succeeding despite your rough upbringing. Really, I do.

    But you can not judge the man when 1) ostracizing him on the details do no one any good and 2) most facts are simply opinions. Just because someone denies being a drug addict, it doesn't mean he is. He apologized for being a fuck up. Quite frankly I find his story humanizing and compelling. You're not in any position to call someone a drug addict when he clearly stated he hasn't touched a spliff since coming into this league.

    Pretend you believe him for just a second. Put yourself in his shoes: You're a marked man coming into the league (and let's suppose he's telling the truth). He rarely drinks, and one of the few instances he shows a moment of weakness, he gets called in for testing. Those that do not know him chime in and manipulate the details to fit their agenda or biases, not-knowing (or knowing) the extent of their actions. Someone who happened to drive when drunk-that-one-time and a substance abuser are two very different things. It's an insult to those who battle actual drug addiction.

    If anything, he's an idiot, not a drug addict.

    @secondwave said:

    It's a lot more than what you make it out to be. I commend you on succeeding despite your rough upbringing. Really, I do.

    But you can not judge the man when 1) ostracizing him on the details do no one any good and 2) most facts are simply opinions. Just because someone denies being a drug addict, it doesn't mean he is. He apologized for being a fuck up. Quite frankly I find his story humanizing and compelling. You're not in any position to call someone a drug addict when he clearly stated he hasn't touched a spliff since coming into this league.

    Pretend you believe him for just a second. Put yourself in his shoes: You're a marked man coming into the league (and let's suppose he's telling the truth). He rarely drinks, and one of the few instances he shows a moment of weakness, he gets called in for testing. Those that do not know him chime in and manipulate the details to fit their agenda or biases, not-knowing (or knowing) the extent of their actions. Someone who happened to drive when drunk-that-one-time and a substance abuser are two very different things. It's an insult to those who battle actual drug addiction.

    If anything, he's an idiot, not a drug addict.

    That is precisely what I said earlier. I don't think he is a drug addict. I just think he is a moron. You can beat addiction. Unfortunately, we can't cure his low IQ.

  • It's possible the very first time he drank he got caught but it would be unusual. It doesn't normally happen that way. He might not be an addict but he makes a lot of bad choices.

  • Here's an open response from me, to Josh Gordon....

    C'mon man!!!

    You have had so many off-the-field issues and you knew what would happen if you messed up again! This sense of entitlement you have is sad. I dont care if you havent smoked a J since 2012, you put yourself in a situation in which you were around people that did! You took that risk instead of avoiding those situations. And im all for pot, alcohol, etc. But if YOU sign the contract, YOU understand their policy. They are your employer; You must adhere to their rules and regulations like everyone else! This last incident, on top of your missed mandatory practice, DWI, and TWO failed tests, it just seems like you want out of Cleveland or you just dont care about playing as much as you should. You have unbelievable talent, yet you let it go to waste because you hang with the wrong crowd and make questionable choices.

    I hope the best for you Josh, but Cleveland does not need you if you are going to be suspended every season...

  • I personally believe Josh Gordon. I think that you "holier-than-thou" fucks out their, you bitter fucking cock-suckers, should shut the fuck up and suck that cock for a while and just let the kid play football. It's rather ridiculous that the NFL feels the need to control this kid and ride him the way that they do. It's really fucking gay.

  • I personally believe Josh Gordon. I think that you "holier-than-thou" fucks out their, you bitter fucking cock-suckers, should shut the fuck up and suck that cock for a while and just let the kid play football. It's rather ridiculous that the NFL feels the need to control this kid and ride him the way that they do. It's really fucking gay.

    @poeticg said:

    I personally believe Josh Gordon. I think that you "holier-than-thou" fucks out their, you bitter fucking cock-suckers, should shut the fuck up and suck that cock for a while and just let the kid play football. It's rather ridiculous that the NFL feels the need to control this kid and ride him the way that they do. It's really fucking gay.

    The NFL doesnt need to control this kid.

    HE needs to control HIMSELF! A couple of failed drug tests, missing a mandatory practice, and an ill-timed DWI is not helping this cocksucker at all. I want him to play. but I don't think he really wants to play. Because if he did, HIS DUMBASS WOULDN'T HAVE SUSPENDED THE LAST COUPLE OF SEASONS!!!

    He knows the rules and he broke them! Plan and simple!

    Release this punk now and save ourselves the embarassment!

    (But knowing the Browns, they'd release him and we would go to like New England and turn his career around)

  • I personally believe Josh Gordon. I think that you "holier-than-thou" fucks out their, you bitter fucking cock-suckers, should shut the fuck up and suck that cock for a while and just let the kid play football. It's rather ridiculous that the NFL feels the need to control this kid and ride him the way that they do. It's really fucking gay.

    @poeticg said:

    I personally believe Josh Gordon. I think that you "holier-than-thou" fucks out their, you bitter fucking cock-suckers, should shut the fuck up and suck that cock for a while and just let the kid play football. It's rather ridiculous that the NFL feels the need to control this kid and ride him the way that they do. It's really fucking gay.

    Only problem is... The kid isn't playing football. He's suspended.

    And I could give a shit less what the NFL wants. Josh knowingly signed up for this and must abide by the rules. I'm suck of the apologist attitude.

    ... Bitch.

  • @poeticg said:

    I personally believe Josh Gordon. I think that you "holier-than-thou" fucks out their, you bitter fucking cock-suckers, should shut the fuck up and suck that cock for a while and just let the kid play football. It's rather ridiculous that the NFL feels the need to control this kid and ride him the way that they do. It's really fucking gay.

    Only problem is... The kid isn't playing football. He's suspended.

    And I could give a shit less what the NFL wants. Josh knowingly signed up for this and must abide by the rules. I'm suck of the apologist attitude.

    ... Bitch.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Only problem is... The kid isn't playing football. He's suspended.

    And I could give a shit less what the NFL wants. Josh knowingly signed up for this and must abide by the rules. I'm suck of the apologist attitude.

    ... Bitch.

    Waaa waaa waaa. Fucking cry about it. You do suck..

  • Live your life. You only live once. If you live the way people TELL you to live your life, you're living their life, and I feel sorry for you.

  • ...thinking about all this Josh Gordon stuff got me to thinking about Ricky Williams. If Josh didn't care he'd be Ricky Williams. He's fucking trying, please remove your death-grip from his reproductive organ.

  • You

    1) sound like you're about 16. Especially with all the "live your life" cliche bullshit.

    2) you might have sexual identity issues. I'd go see a school counselor in between classes or at lunch.

  • Live your life. You only live once. If you live the way people TELL you to live your life, you're living their life, and I feel sorry for you.

    @poeticg said:

    Live your life. You only live once. If you live the way people TELL you to live your life, you're living their life, and I feel sorry for you.

    He can live however the fuck he wants at home unemployed. The rest of society can't live some hippie free spirit fantasy on someone else's dime.

    Oh and you sound like a dumb shit little kid. You keep reaching for the stars, Corky.