So what does Cleveland do about Gordon?
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Does anybody remember what happened to our offense when he returned from his suspension this year? Hoyer went to sh** because he kept forcing balls to Gordon, and nothing good ended up happening. He showed no effort, and seemed to be completely lost in the offense despite being around the team the entire suspension. Now he faces a full-year ban where he won't even be allowed anywhere near the facility.
I say cut him. We don't need all this drama and BS for a WR who only had 1 good season. Who's to say he can even come back to form after nearly missing two full seasons?? Plus, he might've been a star in Norv Turner's system, but we don't even know if he's worth it in our new system under Flip.
I was Gordon's biggest supporter with the second-hand smoke suspension, and I thought he got the raw end of that deal; however, drinking on an airplane when you know you're not allowed to drink... stupid. If he didn't know the terms of his "probation"... even more stupid. If he got on a plane on its way to Vegas with a bunch of guys who are going to be drinking... stupidest...
The kid may get it together someday, but let him get it somewhere else. We need to move on as an organization and a team.
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Keep him, wait and see how it all plays out. The Browns have stuck with him this far. Who knows? Maybe by the time JG plays again, the Browns will have found a great quarterback! What could go wrong?
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Cut him. Let some other team take a chance if they desire. He won't change. He is a distraction.
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Makes absolutely no sense to cut him.
He won't be a distraction because he won't be on the roster and he won't be around the team.
When he comes back he has two years left on his contract.
This is an issue for training camp 2016. Nothing to do with him now..
Cut him now, he signs with another team next year and we get nothing for him ... why?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Makes absolutely no sense to cut him.
He won't be a distraction because he won't be on the roster and he won't be around the team.
When he comes back he has two years left on his contract.
This is an issue for training camp 2016. Nothing to do with him now..
Cut him now, he signs with another team next year and we get nothing for him ... why?
Zombo
you got to be a moron to sign him...he'll be out of football very soon...no one in their right mind will sign him....ooops...wait, we did... cleveland front ofc morons
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So if you keep him and he comes back and takes a roster spot then when he gets banned for life what do you get? Nothing. Cut his ass.
and if you cut him you get nothing ....guaranteed
but if you keep him....there is at least the chance that....
1) he may become a great receiver for your team...
2) we may be able to trade him for something in return....
Not saying it will happen, but it costs us zero to try.......so why not?
and if you cut him you get nothing ....guaranteed
but if you keep him....there is at least the chance that....
1) he may become a great receiver for your team...
2) we may be able to trade him for something in return....
Not saying it will happen, but it costs us zero to try.......so why not?
man look, and i guess there are other teams run by front ofc morons...not just us...but i don't see it...i'll bet anyone on this board if anyone thinks we are going to get anything for him....you got to be nuts...
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I liked the letter even if JG did get some help from a public relations consultant in writing it. I thought he tried to justify or make excuses for some of his poor decisions which he needs to look at. I don't buy the first time he drank he got busted. It doesn't work that way. This kind of drama is played out amongst many of the NFL clubs right now which to me is just a reflection of our society today. I just think it is in the Browns best interest to keep him at this time.
I liked the letter even if JG did get some help from a public relations consultant in writing it. I thought he tried to justify or make excuses for some of his poor decisions which he needs to look at. I don't buy the first time he drank he got busted. It doesn't work that way. This kind of drama is played out amongst many of the NFL clubs right now which to me is just a reflection of our society today. I just think it is in the Browns best interest to keep him at this time.
read jrb12711's post....
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Makes absolutely no sense to cut him.
He won't be a distraction because he won't be on the roster and he won't be around the team.
When he comes back he has two years left on his contract.
This is an issue for training camp 2016. Nothing to do with him now..
Cut him now, he signs with another team next year and we get nothing for him ... why?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Makes absolutely no sense to cut him.
He won't be a distraction because he won't be on the roster and he won't be around the team.
When he comes back he has two years left on his contract.
This is an issue for training camp 2016. Nothing to do with him now..
Cut him now, he signs with another team next year and we get nothing for him ... why?
Zombo
its's worth not getting anything for him....just get rid of him...anyway, even if we would keep him,..i'll bet you right now he will do something stupid again and he'll be out of football which means we get nothing for him anyway...
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Cut him right now. How many times do we have to go thru this ?
He had his chances, he fucked up not once, not twice...
Please. He's making excuses with his off field issues, he has an horrific attitude on the field.
Enough
Cut him right now. How many times do we have to go thru this ?
He had his chances, he fucked up not once, not twice...
Please. He's making excuses with his off field issues, he has an horrific attitude on the field.
Enough
i can't believe there are folks on this board that actually want to keep this guy...you got to be fucking kidding me. i don't care if he doesn't count on the 53 roster...get fucking rid of him...
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Trade? You guys are not serious right? We likely couldn't get anything over a 7th round pick. No team in the league will chance trading for him. He is technically banished from the league. He may be suspended for a year, but he has to re-apply for entry, while unlikely he could be refused. On top of that, he absolutely is 1 more occurrence away from complete banning. A team will not even sign him to anything over a million a year, unless it has 0 guaranteed money.
Only option now is to release him.
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For those who are upset about Gordon's lack of productivity when he came back this past season remember what are the important thing timing between a quarterback and a receiver is. You develop a rhythm through repetitions. One thing that probably heard Brian Hoyer besides his meager talent is the fact that he had not been throwing to Gordon all season long. Gordon took the place of one of the guys he was used to playing with. Consistency is important, people forget that.
WSS
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Just for more bullshit and giggles lets say, Josh stays clean in 2015 and we get to 2016 draft. No Team would take a chance for a 6th or 7th round talent on a 24 yr old Wildcard Talent like Josh Gordon. It cost us nothing. Media lobbyist are going to blow it up anyway!!!
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Makes absolutely no sense to cut him.
He won't be a distraction because he won't be on the roster and he won't be around the team.
When he comes back he has two years left on his contract.
This is an issue for training camp 2016. Nothing to do with him now..
Cut him now, he signs with another team next year and we get nothing for him ... why?
Zombo
Zombo said:
Makes absolutely no sense to cut him.
He won't be a distraction because he won't be on the roster and he won't be around the team.
When he comes back he has two years left on his contract.
This is an issue for training camp 2016. Nothing to do with him now..
Cut him now, he signs with another team next year and we get nothing for him ... why?
Zombo
In some ways, Zombo, we look at this the same way.
Gordon is nothing more than an NFL slab of meat.
I say cut the slab of meat because, as an employer, I want to make a clean cut.
You say a slab of meat because you'd just as soon let him 'hang around' for a year and, then, make a decision.
Different sides of the same coin.
PS This will sound cruel but I really don't care about Josh Gordon other than his ability to catch passes and score TDs for the Browns. Many on this board who buy into the 'poor old Josh - good kid who makes bad decisions - care only because he is a Brown.
Like those who laughed when the likes of Mike Webster, etc. suffered downfalls of life, treated him like another slab of meat, albeit one wearing Black and Yellow.
This slab of meat just happens to be wearing Brown and Orange.
PS Gordon has never - to my knowledge - been accused of any crime of violence and that, IMHO, tells me he isn't the worse person in the world. I just wouldn't want him as an employee.
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I really lament we didn't trade him two years ago when his stock was high. Everybody saw this coming. We really could have gotten something for him at one point. Now..Nothin. Keep him. Obviously we have to move on at his position and draft and/or sign #1 type WR's. If he comes back and can be useful so be it.
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I don't think he is a cap hit or a roster space when he is suspended so you keep him and see what happens.
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Cut him, trade him, keep him?
I'd say cut this prick and let him learn the hard way
Cut him, trade him, keep him?
I'd say cut this off his prick and let him learn the hard way
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The real question is what could we have gotten for him two years ago.
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The real question is what could we have gotten for him two years ago.
The real question is what could we have gotten for him two years ago.
While I understand what you are saying the reality is the answer to that doesn't matter. Holding him and hoping for the best was low risk really at the cost vs what we could have gotten anyway.
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I just would to see the Browns get something out of him. Maybe down the road our best trading partner the Colts will be ready to make a deal? I do see some other team wanting him because of his talent. Even if we don't keep him we should get what we can.
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The CBA may dictate what the Browns can do and when. If it was my decision, I'd cut him as soon as I could. It sends the wrong message to other players if someone screws up and still stays around. He is welcome to go hang with Ray Rice and Legarrette Blount for all I care. Many talented players have wasted more chances than most of us will ever have. Somewhere there is a hungry, good receiver who would use that roster spot and not eff up.
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