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  • @the-gipper said:

    You are an idiot.

    The game say, in the 70s was a lot more like the game played in the 40s/50s than it is to today's game. Ergo, since the game was so different....we MUST discount any titles won in the 70s....per your theory.

    Hi. Basically starting in the super bowl era players were beginning to be bigger, faster and stronger than the previous decades. If thinking those so called "champinships" from 70 years ago make you feel better about the ineptness of our franchise for the last thirty years go for it, no need to get mad. Tell Ergo I said hi!

    @larryfine said:

    Hi. Basically starting in the super bowl era players were beginning to be bigger, faster and stronger than the previous decades. If thinking those so called "champinships" from 70 years ago make you feel better about the ineptness of our franchise for the last thirty years go for it, no need to get mad. Tell Ergo I said hi!

    in the 70s 1/8th of the current league didn't exist. The 70s have the same significance as the 60's 50's 40's and before
  • @larryfine said:

    Hi. Basically starting in the super bowl era players were beginning to be bigger, faster and stronger than the previous decades. If thinking those so called "champinships" from 70 years ago make you feel better about the ineptness of our franchise for the last thirty years go for it, no need to get mad. Tell Ergo I said hi!

    in the 70s 1/8th of the current league didn't exist. The 70s have the same significance as the 60's 50's 40's and before

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    in the 70s 1/8th of the current league didn't exist. The 70s have the same significance as the 60's 50's 40's and before

    unless you are a stoolers fan, and then it's when the NFL started

  • @the-gipper said:

    You are an idiot.

    The game say, in the 70s was a lot more like the game played in the 40s/50s than it is to today's game. Ergo, since the game was so different....we MUST discount any titles won in the 70s....per your theory.

    Hi. Basically starting in the super bowl era players were beginning to be bigger, faster and stronger than the previous decades. If thinking those so called "champinships" from 70 years ago make you feel better about the ineptness of our franchise for the last thirty years go for it, no need to get mad. Tell Ergo I said hi!

    @larryfine said:

    Hi. Basically starting in the super bowl era players were beginning to be bigger, faster and stronger than the previous decades. If thinking those so called "champinships" from 70 years ago make you feel better about the ineptness of our franchise for the last thirty years go for it, no need to get mad. Tell Ergo I said hi!

    Well, you are wrong. You apparently were not alive when all that went down.

    As I said, players in the 70s were much, much closer to the size, strength speed of the players in the 50s than they are to today's players. That is an uncontroverted fact. Players, especially linemen did not to get like 300 pounds until the mid 80s.

    Also, the nature of the game changed far far in favor of the offense. There was no 5 yard rule, no can't hit the QB rule etc. etc.

    Otto Graham and Joe Montana were about the same height/weight.

    The Browns last champion qb, Frank Ryan was 6'3". Pretty average for today's QBs.

  • Brady's Ball Sack said:

    The physically ungifted Kosar couldn't take the hits either. He fell of the face of the earth faster than any QB I can remember, it just looked worse on him. His arm lost whatever strength it had to begin with, and his mobility became even more of a joke. That kid got belted around something fierce, and if he were playing under today's rules, his career would have been extended.

    If we were playing under old rules, the neck fused Manning wouldn't be playing the last two years.

    Possibly true about Manning. Kosar got hammered after the Browns OL fell apart, first with the retirement of Cody Risien and then other OL losses. The Browns did nothing much really to get quality OL to replace the lost ones....and BK suffered for it.

  • In 2007 Patriots went 12-4 with Brady. In 2008 they went 11-5 with Matt Cassell

    In 2010 Colts went 10-6 with Manning. In 2011 then went 2-14 without him.

    Brady not fit to lace Manning's boots.

  • The 2011 colts fully tanked to get luck.

  • The 2011 colts fully tanked to get luck.

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    The 2011 colts fully tanked to get luck.

    50+ NFL players all tanked to draft a rookie QB? I dont buy that

  • The only "can't miss" prospect since manning. Nobody was polarized on luck.

  • You don't need fifty guys to tank. You just need to install shit at a few key positions.

  • The Manning brothers and Andrew Luck are so good because of genes. Archie was a great QB who played on really crappy teams in New Orleans.Oliver was a good QB who also played on pitiful teams in Houston.

    Brady's fought for everything he got. State champion in California, became the starter because of injury. 1 college offer, Michigan where he was 3rd string. Promoted because of injury. This was the case every year in Ann Arbor. Drafter low, not a starter injury gave him a chance again. He wins at every level but he had to work for it. I hate him but I respect him. He works hard.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    The 2011 colts fully tanked to get luck.

    50+ NFL players all tanked to draft a rookie QB? I dont buy that

    @londonbrown said:

    50+ NFL players all tanked to draft a rookie QB? I dont buy that

    You only needed the Coach/owner to tank.....and they did.

  • Brady is 3-0 when he gets away with cheating 0-2 after the cheat tactic is exposed... I don't care about either of these teams but it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see this Seahawks D make Brady's asshole hurt.

  • @larryfine said:

    Hi. Basically starting in the super bowl era players were beginning to be bigger, faster and stronger than the previous decades. If thinking those so called "champinships" from 70 years ago make you feel better about the ineptness of our franchise for the last thirty years go for it, no need to get mad. Tell Ergo I said hi!

    Well, you are wrong. You apparently were not alive when all that went down.

    As I said, players in the 70s were much, much closer to the size, strength speed of the players in the 50s than they are to today's players. That is an uncontroverted fact. Players, especially linemen did not to get like 300 pounds until the mid 80s.

    Also, the nature of the game changed far far in favor of the offense. There was no 5 yard rule, no can't hit the QB rule etc. etc.

    Otto Graham and Joe Montana were about the same height/weight.

    The Browns last champion qb, Frank Ryan was 6'3". Pretty average for today's QBs.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, you are wrong. You apparently were not alive when all that went down.

    As I said, players in the 70s were much, much closer to the size, strength speed of the players in the 50s than they are to today's players. That is an uncontroverted fact. Players, especially linemen did not to get like 300 pounds until the mid 80s.

    Also, the nature of the game changed far far in favor of the offense. There was no 5 yard rule, no can't hit the QB rule etc. etc.

    Otto Graham and Joe Montana were about the same height/weight.

    The Browns last champion qb, Frank Ryan was 6'3". Pretty average for today's QBs.

    Oh I was around back then. I just don't know what I'm talking about. LOL

  • Brady may have just secured it.

  • Brady had a great comeback but it was won on a browns - like bungle.

  • Brady may have just secured it.

    @baconhound said:

    Brady may have just secured it.

    Because an undrafted CB from West Alabama made a great play?

    That's why I don't play the ring game.

    If Lynch punches it in like everyone expected, then Brady hasn't won a SB in 11 years and only has one more ring than Russell Wilson.

    Pete Carroll allows his offensive coordinator to call an insipid play and Brady is now the Greatest ever.

    He was, of course, on the sideline when this was all happening to him.

    Zombo

    --I wanted Seattle to win to just not to have hear how great the Patriots are from all the Patriots fans here. There are no Seahawk fans in Florida.

  • @baconhound said:

    Brady may have just secured it.

    Because an undrafted CB from West Alabama made a great play?

    That's why I don't play the ring game.

    If Lynch punches it in like everyone expected, then Brady hasn't won a SB in 11 years and only has one more ring than Russell Wilson.

    Pete Carroll allows his offensive coordinator to call an insipid play and Brady is now the Greatest ever.

    He was, of course, on the sideline when this was all happening to him.

    Zombo

    --I wanted Seattle to win to just not to have hear how great the Patriots are from all the Patriots fans here. There are no Seahawk fans in Florida.

    Zombo said:

    Because an undrafted CB from West Alabama made a great play?

    That's why I don't play the ring game.

    If Lynch punches it in like everyone expected, then Brady hasn't won a SB in 11 years and only has one more ring than Russell Wilson.

    Pete Carroll allows his offensive coordinator to call an insipid play and Brady is now the Greatest ever.

    He was, of course, on the sideline when this was all happening to him.

    Zombo

    --I wanted Seattle to win to just not to have hear how great the Patriots are from all the Patriots fans here. There are no Seahawk fans in Florida.

    I think it would be a lot less pleasant listening to Richard Seymour and Marshawn Lynch running their fat punk mouths for a year...

    WSS

  • Zombo said:

    Because an undrafted CB from West Alabama made a great play?

    That's why I don't play the ring game.

    If Lynch punches it in like everyone expected, then Brady hasn't won a SB in 11 years and only has one more ring than Russell Wilson.

    Pete Carroll allows his offensive coordinator to call an insipid play and Brady is now the Greatest ever.

    He was, of course, on the sideline when this was all happening to him.

    Zombo

    --I wanted Seattle to win to just not to have hear how great the Patriots are from all the Patriots fans here. There are no Seahawk fans in Florida.

    I think it would be a lot less pleasant listening to Richard Seymour and Marshawn Lynch running their fat punk mouths for a year...

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    I think it would be a lot less pleasant listening to Richard Seymour and Marshawn Lynch running their fat punk mouths for a year...

    WSS

    They don't live here either. But every guy I sit next to in a bar down here is Jimmy from Brockton or Tommy from Taunton telling me how how Brady walks on water and the ol' "How did Cleveland ever let Belichick leave?"

    We didn't. Assholes.

    Zombo

  • @westside-steve said:

    I think it would be a lot less pleasant listening to Richard Seymour and Marshawn Lynch running their fat punk mouths for a year...

    WSS

    They don't live here either. But every guy I sit next to in a bar down here is Jimmy from Brockton or Tommy from Taunton telling me how how Brady walks on water and the ol' "How did Cleveland ever let Belichick leave?"

    We didn't. Assholes.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    They don't live here either. But every guy I sit next to in a bar down here is Jimmy from Brockton or Tommy from Taunton telling me how how Brady walks on water and the ol' "How did Cleveland ever let Belichick leave?"

    We didn't. Assholes.

    Zombo

    Actually the league should have told Art Modell to go fuck himself and sell the team. Then who knows?

    WSS