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  • Pretty decent Mary Kay article on it.

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/02/how_johnny_manziel_raised_his.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

  • Cut Manziel. Go apologize to Hoyer and try to get him signed.

  • Alcohol addiction is a terrible thing. Rich or poor, it can hit so many.

    Who doesn't have a friend or acquaintance over the years, that has

    been affected by alcoholism, if not personally been affected?

    So sad. Good luck to Manziel - I really hope he can get himself straightened out.

  • cdl15C cdl15

    I bet he's already in nfl substance abuse program. but because of confidentiality it hasn't been reported yet

    @cdl15 said:

    I bet he's already in nfl substance abuse program. but because of confidentiality it hasn't been reported yet

    And that's properly the reason he went to rehab.

  • Yeah that sounds like a reasonable explanation. That he has been in the NFL substance abuse program all season long and nobody from the media reported it. That's probably it.

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  • No, he was properly recently put in the program..

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    skip bayless is such a prude that anyone drinking a beer is an alcoholic to him.

    hell, might as well burn me at the stake now.

    @miktoxic said:

    skip bayless is such a prude that anyone drinking a beer is an alcoholic to him.

    hell, might as well burn me at the stake now.

    But Skip is at least half right when he called Johnny an alcoholic and liar.

  • W Westside Steve

    Warren zevon - Detox mansion:

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    @westside-steve said:

    Warren zevon - Detox mansion:

    WSS

    Warren Zevon looked a good bit like Harry Potter .....

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  • MasterDogM MasterDog

    No, he was properly recently put in the program..

    @masterdog said:

    No, he was properly recently put in the program..

    what program and when?what program and when?

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  • There Seems to be quite a few people on this board that are pretty knowledgable about rehabs. I didn't realize I was in the company of so many mental health professionals.

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  • Wouldn't surprise me at all to find out he's already in the program. Based upon his first year, Id almost expect it.

    He probably got a call the day after that bathroom picture showed up. Guess well never know unless/until he gets suspended.

  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    You can go to the finest rehabilitation center in the world. Bottom line is you HAVE TO WANT to quit. No one is going to make you quit.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    You can go to the finest rehabilitation center in the world. Bottom line is you HAVE TO WANT to quit. No one is going to make you quit.

    At some point yes to stay sober you have to want it for yourself. I will say however there are those who went into rehab for all the "wrong" reasons that it helped. Sometimes although they don't intend to change they see or hear something amongst a their "peers" that turns on the lightbulb.
  • C cuwoohio

    There Seems to be quite a few people on this board that are pretty knowledgable about rehabs. I didn't realize I was in the company of so many mental health professionals.

    @cuwoohio said:

    There Seems to be quite a few people on this board that are pretty knowledgable about rehabs. I didn't realize I was in the company of so many mental health professionals.

    I think there are some guys who have worked in and around the field. I have but in a very tiny way and many many years ago. I also think some of us have experience with others who have been through detox or rehab or Alcoholics Anonymous. There are lots of different angles and reasons to attend.

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  • W Westside Steve

    @cuwoohio said:

    There Seems to be quite a few people on this board that are pretty knowledgable about rehabs. I didn't realize I was in the company of so many mental health professionals.

    I think there are some guys who have worked in and around the field. I have but in a very tiny way and many many years ago. I also think some of us have experience with others who have been through detox or rehab or Alcoholics Anonymous. There are lots of different angles and reasons to attend.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    There are lots of different angles and reasons to attend.

    WSS

    Reason #1 > Free cookies and juice at meetings

    Reason #2 > Drunk chicks. Nuff said.

  • ManzierM Manzier

    @westside-steve said:

    There are lots of different angles and reasons to attend.

    WSS

    Reason #1 > Free cookies and juice at meetings

    Reason #2 > Drunk chicks. Nuff said.

    @manzier said:

    Reason #1 > Free cookies and juice at meetings

    Reason #2 > Drunk chicks. Nuff said.

    taken from the questionaire card from your "significant" other?

  • And again is there no automatic suspension once a player has tested positive?

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  • W Westside Steve

    And again is there no automatic suspension once a player has tested positive?

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    @westside-steve said:

    And again is there no automatic suspension once a player has tested positive?

    WSS

    No. Stage one only gets a fine and is anonymous. So we wouldnt know about any player until he has a second fail.

  • "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
  • T TexasAg1969

    http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/11550/manziel-deserves-credit-for-taking-tough-step

    As some have said this is just the first step, albeit the most important. You can't turn you life around until you look in the mirror and admit it needs turning around.

    This guy is more of a fighter than most here give credit for. He will learn a lot and be given a lot of tools to continue the process AFTER rehab. This is a good thing for him and the Browns.

    He has far more skills than most here realize as a QB or the front office would have closed the door long ago. I tend to rely on folks like Haden and Dansby to tell me that rather than internet web site members who have not been at practices against him every day to give me an informed opinion.

    @texasag1969 said:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/11550/manziel-deserves-credit-for-taking-tough-step

    As some have said this is just the first step, albeit the most important. You can't turn you life around until you look in the mirror and admit it needs turning around.

    This guy is more of a fighter than most here give credit for. He will learn a lot and be given a lot of tools to continue the process AFTER rehab. This is a good thing for him and the Browns.

    He has far more skills than most here realize as a QB or the front office would have closed the door long ago. I tend to rely on folks like Haden and Dansby to tell me that rather than internet web site members who have not been at practices against him every day to give me an informed opinion.

    Return of the maroon tinted glasses... let's hope they are justified this time.

    @mudfly said:

    No. Stage one only gets a fine and is anonymous. So we wouldnt know about any player until he has a second fail.

    That was the policy for the first "fail". I was not sure it was still in effect after the recent changes.

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  • C cuwoohio

    There Seems to be quite a few people on this board that are pretty knowledgable about rehabs. I didn't realize I was in the company of so many mental health professionals.

    @cuwoohio said:

    There Seems to be quite a few people on this board that are pretty knowledgeable about rehabs. I didn't realize I was in the company of so many mental health professionals.

    Texas Ag is a retired counselor- he knows what he's talking about. Me? Not mental health, but I've been in the medical (laboratory) field for 40 years. So I humbly submit I know a thing or two about drug testing and the physical and mental effects of drugs. FWIW, alcohol IS a drug.

    Add in, by brother has been in AA for over 30 years- still clean- so I know the signs when someone is starting to lose control. As he says, "one is too many, and ten isn't enough". When you get to that point- you have a problem. That's the primary difference between a social drinker, and an alcoholic- you don't, or can't know when to say "When".

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