Rumor: Browns interested in trading up for Mariota
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Screw that..... why are these people too stupid to find the first 6'-4" 220 lb. strong arm qb with an IQ over 100, in the later rounds? That's what Bellichik did.
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Screw that..... why are these people too stupid to find the first 6'-4" 220 lb. strong arm qb with an IQ over 100, in the later rounds? That's what Bellichik did.
Screw that..... why are these people too stupid to find the first 6'-4" 220 lb. strong arm qb with an IQ over 100, in the later rounds? That's what Bellichik did.
While I don't believe Belicheck is 100% responsible for that pick, there is a bit of luck involved as well. He had a GM and scouts, that did the real work on Brady. Kudos to them, but other then Brady how many quarterbacks have become stars like Brady after being drafted after round 3? There is a reason why 95% of them fail. Brady is the exception. For every Brady I can name 10 other quarterbacks who failed.
Another thing is, a lot of this depends on the team they go to. If they go to crappy teams, it won't matter where they are drafted. If they go to teams that are decent already, it greatly helps their development.
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Would this be bad?
I go back-and-forth with this one. If we think Mariota is the guy, don't we HAVE to utilize our resources to get him on the roster?
Really, what are our other options at QB?
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I agree, 23...
If the FO thinks MM has the talent to make it, they have to go get him. There are really no "other" questions around him. But if they do, I wish I could see what they see.
Essentially they can create a 2014 reset by signing Hoyer and sitting another first-round rookie... or let the rook sit behind Shaw, if they think enough of Connor.
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I agree, 23...
If the FO thinks MM has the talent to make it, they have to go get him. There are really no "other" questions around him. But if they do, I wish I could see what they see.
Essentially they can create a 2014 reset by signing Hoyer and sitting another first-round rookie... or let the rook sit behind Shaw, if they think enough of Connor.
I agree, 23...
If the FO thinks MM has the talent to make it, they have to go get him. There are really no "other" questions around him. But if they do, I wish I could see what they see.
Essentially they can create a 2014 reset by signing Hoyer and sitting another first-round rookie... or let the rook sit behind Shaw, if they think enough of Connor.
Do you really trust the FO after they TOTALLY blew the 1st round last year?
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I agree, 23...
If the FO thinks MM has the talent to make it, they have to go get him. There are really no "other" questions around him. But if they do, I wish I could see what they see.
Essentially they can create a 2014 reset by signing Hoyer and sitting another first-round rookie... or let the rook sit behind Shaw, if they think enough of Connor.
Do you really trust the FO after they TOTALLY blew the 1st round last year?
Do you really trust the FO after they TOTALLY blew the 1st round last year?
I sure as hell don't.
I mean, they were completely ineffective all year. Bitonio is garbage. Can't believe we wasted a second rounder on him. And getting two runningbacks, one through UDFA? Terrible. Hey Farmer, YOU CAN ONLY START ONE RB AT A TIME, IDIOT. WHY DO WE NEED TWO.
Then going out and finding some random no-name UDFA WR, I think the dude's name was Peter Gabriel? Fucking idiotic. That guy sucks ass. And don't even get me started on that Williams dude. What kind of team starts a UDFA DB?
I say fire them all, let's go get Josh McDaniels.
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Do you really trust the FO after they TOTALLY blew the 1st round last year?
I sure as hell don't.
I mean, they were completely ineffective all year. Bitonio is garbage. Can't believe we wasted a second rounder on him. And getting two runningbacks, one through UDFA? Terrible. Hey Farmer, YOU CAN ONLY START ONE RB AT A TIME, IDIOT. WHY DO WE NEED TWO.
Then going out and finding some random no-name UDFA WR, I think the dude's name was Peter Gabriel? Fucking idiotic. That guy sucks ass. And don't even get me started on that Williams dude. What kind of team starts a UDFA DB?
I say fire them all, let's go get Josh McDaniels.
I sure as hell don't.
I mean, they were completely ineffective all year. Bitonio is garbage. Can't believe we wasted a second rounder on him. And getting two runningbacks, one through UDFA? Terrible. Hey Farmer, YOU CAN ONLY START ONE RB AT A TIME, IDIOT. WHY DO WE NEED TWO.
Then going out and finding some random no-name UDFA WR, I think the dude's name was Peter Gabriel? Fucking idiotic. That guy sucks ass. And don't even get me started on that Williams dude. What kind of team starts a UDFA DB?
I say fire them all, let's go get Josh McDaniels.
I said the first round.
Yes the FO did well after that, but they blew it in round 1.
BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Wash, Rinse, Repeat
Nothing will ever change.
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Do you really trust the FO after they TOTALLY blew the 1st round last year?
I sure as hell don't.
I mean, they were completely ineffective all year. Bitonio is garbage. Can't believe we wasted a second rounder on him. And getting two runningbacks, one through UDFA? Terrible. Hey Farmer, YOU CAN ONLY START ONE RB AT A TIME, IDIOT. WHY DO WE NEED TWO.
Then going out and finding some random no-name UDFA WR, I think the dude's name was Peter Gabriel? Fucking idiotic. That guy sucks ass. And don't even get me started on that Williams dude. What kind of team starts a UDFA DB?
I say fire them all, let's go get Josh McDaniels.
I sure as hell don't.
I mean, they were completely ineffective all year. Bitonio is garbage. Can't believe we wasted a second rounder on him. And getting two runningbacks, one through UDFA? Terrible. Hey Farmer, YOU CAN ONLY START ONE RB AT A TIME, IDIOT. WHY DO WE NEED TWO.
Then going out and finding some random no-name UDFA WR, I think the dude's name was Peter Gabriel? Fucking idiotic. That guy sucks ass. And don't even get me started on that Williams dude. What kind of team starts a UDFA DB?
I say fire them all, let's go get Josh McDaniels.
Yet another person who doesn't know football. Here is what people who actually know said about Bitonio http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000448750/article/rookie-watch-2015-pro-bowl-picks-and-snubs
I believe he is even is/was in consideration for offensive rookie of the year honors.
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I sure as hell don't.
I mean, they were completely ineffective all year. Bitonio is garbage. Can't believe we wasted a second rounder on him. And getting two runningbacks, one through UDFA? Terrible. Hey Farmer, YOU CAN ONLY START ONE RB AT A TIME, IDIOT. WHY DO WE NEED TWO.
Then going out and finding some random no-name UDFA WR, I think the dude's name was Peter Gabriel? Fucking idiotic. That guy sucks ass. And don't even get me started on that Williams dude. What kind of team starts a UDFA DB?
I say fire them all, let's go get Josh McDaniels.
Yet another person who doesn't know football. Here is what people who actually know said about Bitonio http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000448750/article/rookie-watch-2015-pro-bowl-picks-and-snubs
I believe he is even is/was in consideration for offensive rookie of the year honors.
cbbacker said:
Yet another person who doesn't know football. Here is what people who actually know said about Bitonio http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000448750/article/rookie-watch-2015-pro-bowl-picks-and-snubs
I believe he is even is/was in consideration for offensive rookie of the year honors.
Ever hear of sarcasm?
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I agree, 23...
If the FO thinks MM has the talent to make it, they have to go get him. There are really no "other" questions around him. But if they do, I wish I could see what they see.
Essentially they can create a 2014 reset by signing Hoyer and sitting another first-round rookie... or let the rook sit behind Shaw, if they think enough of Connor.
I agree, 23...
If the FO thinks MM has the talent to make it, they have to go get him. There are really no "other" questions around him. But if they do, I wish I could see what they see.
Essentially they can create a 2014 reset by signing Hoyer and sitting another first-round rookie... or let the rook sit behind Shaw, if they think enough of Connor.
There are flashes I've seen. However, its usually accompanied by a breakdown in the play and MM extending said play. You can't continuously live off of that in the NFL.
To his credit, Mariota appears to have a better feel for pressure and slide more efficiently in the pocket.
Would I invest a high 1st round pick in him though? No. Especially considering it would cost us a shot at Shelton or Brown.
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I sure as hell don't.
I mean, they were completely ineffective all year. Bitonio is garbage. Can't believe we wasted a second rounder on him. And getting two runningbacks, one through UDFA? Terrible. Hey Farmer, YOU CAN ONLY START ONE RB AT A TIME, IDIOT. WHY DO WE NEED TWO.
Then going out and finding some random no-name UDFA WR, I think the dude's name was Peter Gabriel? Fucking idiotic. That guy sucks ass. And don't even get me started on that Williams dude. What kind of team starts a UDFA DB?
I say fire them all, let's go get Josh McDaniels.
I said the first round.
Yes the FO did well after that, but they blew it in round 1.
BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I said the first round.
Yes the FO did well after that, but they blew it in round 1.
BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wash, Rinse, Repeat
Nothing will ever change.
Nothing will ever change......................You are right on that but to the degree there will always be negative rain clouds like you two. The first round isn't the draft. We did very well in the latter rounds and free agency. It also remains to be seen if the first round was a bust. If either Gilbert or Manziel improve this year and we use the extra pick from the Bills wisely first round rocks too.
I am guessing the Browns as a whole could give less than two shits about a pair of negative nancies like yourselves. Go root for another team please and do the Browns and all of us a favor.
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No thanks
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I sure as hell don't.
I mean, they were completely ineffective all year. Bitonio is garbage. Can't believe we wasted a second rounder on him. And getting two runningbacks, one through UDFA? Terrible. Hey Farmer, YOU CAN ONLY START ONE RB AT A TIME, IDIOT. WHY DO WE NEED TWO.
Then going out and finding some random no-name UDFA WR, I think the dude's name was Peter Gabriel? Fucking idiotic. That guy sucks ass. And don't even get me started on that Williams dude. What kind of team starts a UDFA DB?
I say fire them all, let's go get Josh McDaniels.
Yet another person who doesn't know football. Here is what people who actually know said about Bitonio http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000448750/article/rookie-watch-2015-pro-bowl-picks-and-snubs
I believe he is even is/was in consideration for offensive rookie of the year honors.
cbbacker said:
Yet another person who doesn't know football. Here is what people who actually know said about Bitonio http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000448750/article/rookie-watch-2015-pro-bowl-picks-and-snubs
I believe he is even is/was in consideration for offensive rookie of the year honors.
And now your post is in consideration for Idiot of the Year Honors.
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I agree, 23...
If the FO thinks MM has the talent to make it, they have to go get him. There are really no "other" questions around him. But if they do, I wish I could see what they see.
Essentially they can create a 2014 reset by signing Hoyer and sitting another first-round rookie... or let the rook sit behind Shaw, if they think enough of Connor.
I agree, 23...
If the FO thinks MM has the talent to make it, they have to go get him. There are really no "other" questions around him. But if they do, I wish I could see what they see.
Essentially they can create a 2014 reset by signing Hoyer and sitting another first-round rookie... or let the rook sit behind Shaw, if they think enough of Connor.
If we traded as much as it would take to land this guy, there is no way in hell he sits his rookie year...
And to be honest, given his skill-set, he seems like the kind of guy who could start right away. Not sure he'd be any less effective than Hoyer/Manziel/Shaw from day 1. Remember, it'll be a whole new offense for everybody to learn...
#Justsayin' -
I said the first round.
Yes the FO did well after that, but they blew it in round 1.
BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wash, Rinse, Repeat
Nothing will ever change.
Nothing will ever change......................You are right on that but to the degree there will always be negative rain clouds like you two. The first round isn't the draft. We did very well in the latter rounds and free agency. It also remains to be seen if the first round was a bust. If either Gilbert or Manziel improve this year and we use the extra pick from the Bills wisely first round rocks too.
I am guessing the Browns as a whole could give less than two shits about a pair of negative nancies like yourselves. Go root for another team please and do the Browns and all of us a favor.
Nothing will ever change......................You are right on that but to the degree there will always be negative rain clouds like you two. The first round isn't the draft. We did very well in the latter rounds and free agency. It also remains to be seen if the first round was a bust. If either Gilbert or Manziel improve this year and we use the extra pick from the Bills wisely first round rocks too.
I am guessing the Browns as a whole could give less than two shits about a pair of negative nancies like yourselves. Go root for another team please and do the Browns and all of us a favor.
I just call it like I see it. And as I type this both 1st round picks sucked. The rest of the offseason was good to great
I would be ELATED if Johnny turned out to be a good QB. Same with Gilbert.
I have been a Browns season ticket holder since 1999. So the Browns DO actually care what I think.
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I just want the dark cloud of Gordon and Manziel gone....
Mariota would most certainly help this. I've been a firm believer in Mariota having watched 75%-85% of his games. Also the system comments and the Dixon, Masoli, Thomas comments are ridiculous. Compare their stats to Marcus' and you'll be blown away
Pros:
- Great pocket movement, looks to throw while moving around
- Phenomenal/NFL quality acceleration
- Compact, quick release
- Humility and work ethic. Improved every year. Never threw a teammate under the bus yet shares/credits his success with them
- Frame should allow for another 10 lbs or so
- Very, very low interception ratio for his entire career. Simply takes care of the ball (while throwing)...
- Absolutely mastered his offense and was in command of everything. This to me is very underrated.
Con's
- Virtually no experience under center
- Deep ball accuracy is hit or miss (wildly!)
- Fumbles quite a bit (correctable)
- Usually contorts his body to absorb impact, however, I have seen him take massive shots while trying to do too much rather than "living to play another down"
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I just want the dark cloud of Gordon and Manziel gone....
Mariota would most certainly help this. I've been a firm believer in Mariota having watched 75%-85% of his games. Also the system comments and the Dixon, Masoli, Thomas comments are ridiculous. Compare their stats to Marcus' and you'll be blown away
Pros:
- Great pocket movement, looks to throw while moving around
- Phenomenal/NFL quality acceleration
- Compact, quick release
- Humility and work ethic. Improved every year. Never threw a teammate under the bus yet shares/credits his success with them
- Frame should allow for another 10 lbs or so
- Very, very low interception ratio for his entire career. Simply takes care of the ball (while throwing)...
- Absolutely mastered his offense and was in command of everything. This to me is very underrated.
Con's
- Virtually no experience under center
- Deep ball accuracy is hit or miss (wildly!)
- Fumbles quite a bit (correctable)
- Usually contorts his body to absorb impact, however, I have seen him take massive shots while trying to do too much rather than "living to play another down"
I just want the dark cloud of Gordon and Manziel gone....
Mariota would most certainly help this. I've been a firm believer in Mariota having watched 75%-85% of his games. Also the system comments and the Dixon, Masoli, Thomas comments are ridiculous. Compare their stats to Marcus' and you'll be blown away
Pros:
- Great pocket movement, looks to throw while moving around
- Phenomenal/NFL quality acceleration
- Compact, quick release
- Humility and work ethic. Improved every year. Never threw a teammate under the bus yet shares/credits his success with them
- Frame should allow for another 10 lbs or so
- Very, very low interception ratio for his entire career. Simply takes care of the ball (while throwing)...
- Absolutely mastered his offense and was in command of everything. This to me is very underrated.
Con's
- Virtually no experience under center
- Deep ball accuracy is hit or miss (wildly!)
- Fumbles quite a bit (correctable)
- Usually contorts his body to absorb impact, however, I have seen him take massive shots while trying to do too much rather than "living to play another down"
Still the biggest con for me when evaluating QBs in college, the defensive scheme or lack there of is a big problem.
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