Rumor: Browns interested in trading up for Mariota
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Nothing will ever change......................You are right on that but to the degree there will always be negative rain clouds like you two. The first round isn't the draft. We did very well in the latter rounds and free agency. It also remains to be seen if the first round was a bust. If either Gilbert or Manziel improve this year and we use the extra pick from the Bills wisely first round rocks too.
I am guessing the Browns as a whole could give less than two shits about a pair of negative nancies like yourselves. Go root for another team please and do the Browns and all of us a favor.
I just call it like I see it. And as I type this both 1st round picks sucked. The rest of the offseason was good to great
I would be ELATED if Johnny turned out to be a good QB. Same with Gilbert.
I have been a Browns season ticket holder since 1999. So the Browns DO actually care what I think.
I have been a Browns season ticket holder since 1999. So the Browns DO actually care what I think.
This made me lol . . .
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Would this be bad?
I go back-and-forth with this one. If we think Mariota is the guy, don't we HAVE to utilize our resources to get him on the roster?
Really, what are our other options at QB?
Would this be bad?
I go back-and-forth with this one. If we think Mariota is the guy, don't we HAVE to utilize our resources to get him on the roster?
Really, what are our other options at QB?
Anything that won't take 3 first round picks
@junkyard-dawg said:
Chump Kelly is all hot and bothered over Marky Mark and wants to trade up to grab him, we can help them. Toss them a 2nd and a mid rounder for Nick Foles or even swap a 1st and give 'em a mid round pick. Grab Foles and let them blow their draft load on Mariotta. Use the rest of the draft on WR's and TE's for Foles to throw to.
this isn't happening. The Eagles don't have the ammunition, and the Browns would have to sell the ranch.
Id do both 1st rounders and next years 1st to go up and grab him.
That what it would take (at least) , and if you watched the National Championship game Mariota isn't worth it.
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Would this be bad?
I go back-and-forth with this one. If we think Mariota is the guy, don't we HAVE to utilize our resources to get him on the roster?
Really, what are our other options at QB?
Anything that won't take 3 first round picks
@junkyard-dawg said:
Chump Kelly is all hot and bothered over Marky Mark and wants to trade up to grab him, we can help them. Toss them a 2nd and a mid rounder for Nick Foles or even swap a 1st and give 'em a mid round pick. Grab Foles and let them blow their draft load on Mariotta. Use the rest of the draft on WR's and TE's for Foles to throw to.
this isn't happening. The Eagles don't have the ammunition, and the Browns would have to sell the ranch.
Id do both 1st rounders and next years 1st to go up and grab him.
That what it would take (at least) , and if you watched the National Championship game Mariota isn't worth it.
Anything that won't take 3 first round picks
this isn't happening. The Eagles don't have the ammunition, and the Browns would have to sell the ranch.
That what it would take (at least) , and if you watched the National Championship game Mariota isn't worth it.
ONE game and you concluded he isn't worth it? lol. Let's just dismiss everything else he's proven and accomplished over the last 2-3 years.
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Good Lord we our the Cleveland Browns. I never want to even think again about giving up NEEDS over a 1st round QB. You people scare me more than Farmer and Haslem!! Look at our pass genius idea's of this at QB. God please Joe Montana was not Joe without a deep OL,TE, Backs and WR's that could block for him. A QB for now is a FA (and not Hoyer) or 5th round our later.. We have not even started fixing our D yet. It's like a city worker "we can't fix all these hole's over night"..
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Good Lord we our the Cleveland Browns. I never want to even think again about giving up NEEDS over a 1st round QB. You people scare me more than Farmer and Haslem!! Look at our pass genius idea's of this at QB. God please Joe Montana was not Joe without a deep OL,TE, Backs and WR's that could block for him. A QB for now is a FA (and not Hoyer) or 5th round our later.. We have not even started fixing our D yet. It's like a city worker "we can't fix all these hole's over night"..
Good Lord we our the Cleveland Browns. I never want to even think again about giving up NEEDS over a 1st round QB. You people scare me more than Farmer and Haslem!! Look at our pass genius idea's of this at QB. God please Joe Montana was not Joe without a deep OL,TE, Backs and WR's that could block for him. A QB for now is a FA (and not Hoyer) or 5th round our later.. We have not even started fixing our D yet. It's like a city worker "we can't fix all these hole's over night"..
Be a sport gumby. There must be a way you could compromise and help extend this lunacy another 10-15 years. We don't need no linemen. They'd just get in the way of the next great savior.
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My thing with Mariota that I really like about him is he always keeps his eyes down the field even when under pressure. That's one of those things that's hard to teach a QB that he does really well. However, Ohio State really brought out all the flaws in his game. I think he's got a great shot to be a solid starter but he can't be a week 1 starter or even a first year starter IMO. In either case I really doubt the Browns reach for him.
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Good Lord we our the Cleveland Browns. I never want to even think again about giving up NEEDS over a 1st round QB. You people scare me more than Farmer and Haslem!! Look at our pass genius idea's of this at QB. God please Joe Montana was not Joe without a deep OL,TE, Backs and WR's that could block for him. A QB for now is a FA (and not Hoyer) or 5th round our later.. We have not even started fixing our D yet. It's like a city worker "we can't fix all these hole's over night"..
Good Lord we our the Cleveland Browns. I never want to even think again about giving up NEEDS over a 1st round QB. You people scare me more than Farmer and Haslem!! Look at our pass genius idea's of this at QB. God please Joe Montana was not Joe without a deep OL,TE, Backs and WR's that could block for him. A QB for now is a FA (and not Hoyer) or 5th round our later.. We have not even started fixing our D yet. It's like a city worker "we can't fix all these hole's over night"..
You just see teams so many times (Browns included) who keep trying to build around a quarterback and failing. As if one really good quarterback is a cure all for everything. I agree. I would like to see them fix some other holes. Improve an already talented team.
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unfortunately league rules require a certain amount of players on the field. We could just trade all our draft choices for Marcus Mariota and put him on the field by himself.
WSS
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Good Lord we our the Cleveland Browns. I never want to even think again about giving up NEEDS over a 1st round QB. You people scare me more than Farmer and Haslem!! Look at our pass genius idea's of this at QB. God please Joe Montana was not Joe without a deep OL,TE, Backs and WR's that could block for him. A QB for now is a FA (and not Hoyer) or 5th round our later.. We have not even started fixing our D yet. It's like a city worker "we can't fix all these hole's over night"..
Good Lord we our the Cleveland Browns. I never want to even think again about giving up NEEDS over a 1st round QB. You people scare me more than Farmer and Haslem!! Look at our pass genius idea's of this at QB. God please Joe Montana was not Joe without a deep OL,TE, Backs and WR's that could block for him. A QB for now is a FA (and not Hoyer) or 5th round our later.. We have not even started fixing our D yet. It's like a city worker "we can't fix all these hole's over night"..
Other than NT, what hole is there on our team that is anywhere near as glaring as our QB situation? And, isn't that the most important position in all of sports?
I'm not sold on trading 3 #1's for a guy, but if you really look at the talent on this team there aren't as many holes as some of you seem to conjure up.
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Good Lord we our the Cleveland Browns. I never want to even think again about giving up NEEDS over a 1st round QB. You people scare me more than Farmer and Haslem!! Look at our pass genius idea's of this at QB. God please Joe Montana was not Joe without a deep OL,TE, Backs and WR's that could block for him. A QB for now is a FA (and not Hoyer) or 5th round our later.. We have not even started fixing our D yet. It's like a city worker "we can't fix all these hole's over night"..
Other than NT, what hole is there on our team that is anywhere near as glaring as our QB situation? And, isn't that the most important position in all of sports?
I'm not sold on trading 3 #1's for a guy, but if you really look at the talent on this team there aren't as many holes as some of you seem to conjure up.
Offensive line depth?Other than NT, what hole is there on our team that is anywhere near as glaring as our QB situation? And, isn't that the most important position in all of sports?
I'm not sold on trading 3 #1's for a guy, but if you really look at the talent on this team there aren't as many holes as some of you seem to conjure up.
With Alex Mack at center we could compete with Brian Hoyer at quarterback.
D line upgrades could raise our run defense out of the sewer. That forces the other team to throw the ball to our above average defensive backs.
WSS
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Good Lord we our the Cleveland Browns. I never want to even think again about giving up NEEDS over a 1st round QB. You people scare me more than Farmer and Haslem!! Look at our pass genius idea's of this at QB. God please Joe Montana was not Joe without a deep OL,TE, Backs and WR's that could block for him. A QB for now is a FA (and not Hoyer) or 5th round our later.. We have not even started fixing our D yet. It's like a city worker "we can't fix all these hole's over night"..
Other than NT, what hole is there on our team that is anywhere near as glaring as our QB situation? And, isn't that the most important position in all of sports?
I'm not sold on trading 3 #1's for a guy, but if you really look at the talent on this team there aren't as many holes as some of you seem to conjure up.
Other than NT, what hole is there on our team that is anywhere near as glaring as our QB situation? And, isn't that the most important position in all of sports?
I'm not sold on trading 3 #1's for a guy, but if you really look at the talent on this team there aren't as many holes as some of you seem to conjure up.
I have no problem trading 3 #1s for a QB if you are certain he's the guy. For example, I'd give 3 #1s for Andrew Luck in a heartbeat, or Aaron Rodgers. So, if you have an absolute can't miss guy like Andrew Luck, then go for it - is Mariota or Winston that good? I'm not convinced.
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The Browns defense that looked so good against the Colts really matched up well with Colts weakness of running the ball. Luck was not nearly as successful throwing into our secondary like he did against the Bengals and the Broncos in the playoffs. Once the Browns defense start shutting down the run game to go along with their good secondary they are going to be an excellent defensive unit. So they do have the need to get some players on the defense to improve their defense against the run.
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No star QB's are in this years draft, this draft is stocked full of NFL DT's and OL, also has quite a few good LB's. The only skill player group that has some real solid talent is at WR and I don't want any of them.
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Let's build a killer front 7 and patch up the OL
Guys like Shelton, Brown, Scherff, Perryman, McKinney, Thompson, Beasley, etc.
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Other than NT, what hole is there on our team that is anywhere near as glaring as our QB situation? And, isn't that the most important position in all of sports?
I'm not sold on trading 3 #1's for a guy, but if you really look at the talent on this team there aren't as many holes as some of you seem to conjure up.
I have no problem trading 3 #1s for a QB if you are certain he's the guy. For example, I'd give 3 #1s for Andrew Luck in a heartbeat, or Aaron Rodgers. So, if you have an absolute can't miss guy like Andrew Luck, then go for it - is Mariota or Winston that good? I'm not convinced.
I have no problem trading 3 #1s for a QB if you are certain he's the guy. For example, I'd give 3 #1s for Andrew Luck in a heartbeat, or Aaron Rodgers. So, if you have an absolute can't miss guy like Andrew Luck, then go for it - is Mariota or Winston that good? I'm not convinced.
The only problem I see is, if you have a sure-thing QB like Luck, all 32 teams will clearly see that...if it's that solid. And in a situation like that, the first overall pick isn't going to give it up for anything, not if they need a QB. And this year, Tampa Bay is one of those teams. I don't think Indy would've given their spot up for Luck for anything. Actually, did anyone even try to deal with them on it?
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I have no problem trading 3 #1s for a QB if you are certain he's the guy. For example, I'd give 3 #1s for Andrew Luck in a heartbeat, or Aaron Rodgers. So, if you have an absolute can't miss guy like Andrew Luck, then go for it - is Mariota or Winston that good? I'm not convinced.
The only problem I see is, if you have a sure-thing QB like Luck, all 32 teams will clearly see that...if it's that solid. And in a situation like that, the first overall pick isn't going to give it up for anything, not if they need a QB. And this year, Tampa Bay is one of those teams. I don't think Indy would've given their spot up for Luck for anything. Actually, did anyone even try to deal with them on it?
The only problem I see is, if you have a sure-thing QB like Luck, all 32 teams will clearly see that...if it's that solid. And in a situation like that, the first overall pick isn't going to give it up for anything, not if they need a QB. And this year, Tampa Bay is one of those teams. I don't think Indy would've given their spot up for Luck for anything. Actually, did anyone even try to deal with them on it?
Yes. We did.
But Holmgren, then the team president, had a higher target in that draft, someone he wanted more than RG3. And the Browns will face that player on Sunday: Indianapolis Colts quarterback Andrew Luck. Holmgren said in the past that at an owners' meeting, he approached the Colts and offered the Browns' entire draft to acquire the No. 1 pick so the Browns could take Luck.
The Colts declined. Quickly.
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I have no problem trading 3 #1s for a QB if you are certain he's the guy. For example, I'd give 3 #1s for Andrew Luck in a heartbeat, or Aaron Rodgers. So, if you have an absolute can't miss guy like Andrew Luck, then go for it - is Mariota or Winston that good? I'm not convinced.
The only problem I see is, if you have a sure-thing QB like Luck, all 32 teams will clearly see that...if it's that solid. And in a situation like that, the first overall pick isn't going to give it up for anything, not if they need a QB. And this year, Tampa Bay is one of those teams. I don't think Indy would've given their spot up for Luck for anything. Actually, did anyone even try to deal with them on it?
The only problem I see is, if you have a sure-thing QB like Luck, all 32 teams will clearly see that...if it's that solid. And in a situation like that, the first overall pick isn't going to give it up for anything, not if they need a QB. And this year, Tampa Bay is one of those teams. I don't think Indy would've given their spot up for Luck for anything. Actually, did anyone even try to deal with them on it?
Yep, anyone worth giving up the farm for, we won't be able to give up the farm for.
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