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Who will trade for Edwards??

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  • ballpeen ballpeenB Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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    mikeyP72 said:

    Do you support moving Edwards peen?

    Yes.

    My opinion is Edwards is going to be a problem to sign. I fear we are going to have to franchise him to keep him.

    I feel that would be way to much money to pay him and would reduce or position in being able to trade him. I think now is the best time to work a trade to provide maximum leverage in our favor.

    I know it would put us behind the 8-ball possibly for this season at the receiver position, leaving us with a inexperienced player or some FA we would have to sign.

    But in the end, Edwards reminds me of "Leon"...the excuse making player in the beer commercials. I just don't think those are the best guys to have on your team.....especially if we change our offensive focus from a deeper passing team to one that runs and throw short, controlled passes. Edwards just isn't a short, over the middle kind of guy.

    I can see big problems on the horizon if we keep him.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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      mikeyP72 said:

      I understand i just cant get over the feeling i get when i think about watching him excel for someone else... Its gonna be hard watching KWII go to the pro bowl for the NFC. Watching 2 of our guys do it would hurt pretty bad.

      I guess that is a chance you take. My consolation is that they really didn't do it for us.

      Sometimes a change of scenery is what it takes for some players....and that might be Edwards deal.

      Winslow was never a issue of not playing well....it was a case of him missing half of his career here. Add in the tones of wanting a larger deal when we really weren't in position to give him a bigger deal here, that trade makes sense to me.

      I do agree...the Edwards deal might be a burner. But we don't know what has gone on behind the scenes. We may have been trying to extend him for a while....and maybe we still will...all of this on him is speculation at this point.

      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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        seattle rumored to want BE...2nd pick + additional(rumored)

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          mikeyP72 said:

          I understand i just cant get over the feeling i get when i think about watching him excel for someone else... Its gonna be hard watching KWII go to the pro bowl for the NFC. Watching 2 of our guys do it would hurt pretty bad.

          I guess that is a chance you take. My consolation is that they really didn't do it for us.

          Sometimes a change of scenery is what it takes for some players....and that might be Edwards deal.

          Winslow was never a issue of not playing well....it was a case of him missing half of his career here. Add in the tones of wanting a larger deal when we really weren't in position to give him a bigger deal here, that trade makes sense to me.

          I do agree...the Edwards deal might be a burner. But we don't know what has gone on behind the scenes. We may have been trying to extend him for a while....and maybe we still will...all of this on him is speculation at this point.

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          @ballpeen said:

          I guess that is a chance you take. My consolation is that they really didn't do it for us.

          Sometimes a change of scenery is what it takes for some players....and that might be Edwards deal.

          Winslow was never a issue of not playing well....it was a case of him missing half of his career here. Add in the tones of wanting a larger deal when we really weren't in position to give him a bigger deal here, that trade makes sense to me.

          I do agree...the Edwards deal might be a burner. But we don't know what has gone on behind the scenes. We may have been trying to extend him for a while....and maybe we still will...all of this on him is speculation at this point.

          I would think that the front office has to be looking into an extension and they would know whether or not it has any chance of getting done. If there is no chance of keeping him here, then I am in favor of moving him even if it puts us in receiver trouble for this season.

          Personally, I would rather see us work out a long term deal and keep him here because I hope that last season was just a bad year and he will rebound this season, but who knows.

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            BrownsFan17B BrownsFan17 wrote on last edited by
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            Just heard a very interesting rumor from a caller on Sirius radio. He said that the reason the Giants are trying to hard to sign Canty is because they have a deal in the works with us to get BE and we would receive Kiwanuka and a pick. Thoughts?
            <!--coloro:#0000FF--><span style="color:#0000FF"><!--/coloro-->I can't help but think that we are destined to go to the playoffs this year!!<!--colorc--></span><!--/colorc-->
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              Just heard a very interesting rumor from a caller on Sirius radio. He said that the reason the Giants are trying to hard to sign Canty is because they have a deal in the works with us to get BE and we would receive Kiwanuka and a pick. Thoughts?
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              @brownsfan17 said:

              Just heard a very interesting rumor from a caller on Sirius radio. He said that the reason the Giants are trying to hard to sign Canty is because they have a deal in the works with us to get BE and we would receive Kiwanuka and a pick. Thoughts?

              Wow...Kiwanuka AND a pick? Get it done now! Base salary of $650,000 this year and 725K next. Plus 3 mil in incentives.

              He's not a free agent until 2011.

              That would open up even more cap space.

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                Kiwanuka (6'5" 265) posted 8.0 sacks last year. I thought the word on him was that he was a bit of a disappointment prior to that.

                I wouldn't think that the pick would be very high. Maybe a 4th or 5th?

                -Al

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                  Hometown guy Barry Cofield recently had a "complicated [knee] scope", which may explain why the Giants signed Bernard and Canty.

                  Cofield's a free agent after this season. Assuming the knee checks out, I wonder if the Giants would be willing to part with him.

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                    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                    the Giants forum rumors has us getting a 1st, 4th, and 6th or 7th for edwards

                    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                      the Giants forum rumors has us getting a 1st, 4th, and 6th or 7th for edwards

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                      nmills said:

                      the Giants forum rumors has us getting a 1st, 4th, and 6th or 7th for edwards

                      Heart beat!!!

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                        mikeyP72 said:

                        Do you support moving Edwards peen?

                        Yes.

                        My opinion is Edwards is going to be a problem to sign. I fear we are going to have to franchise him to keep him.

                        I feel that would be way to much money to pay him and would reduce or position in being able to trade him. I think now is the best time to work a trade to provide maximum leverage in our favor.

                        I know it would put us behind the 8-ball possibly for this season at the receiver position, leaving us with a inexperienced player or some FA we would have to sign.

                        But in the end, Edwards reminds me of "Leon"...the excuse making player in the beer commercials. I just don't think those are the best guys to have on your team.....especially if we change our offensive focus from a deeper passing team to one that runs and throw short, controlled passes. Edwards just isn't a short, over the middle kind of guy.

                        I can see big problems on the horizon if we keep him.

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                        @ballpeen said:

                        But in the end, Edwards reminds me of "Leon"...the excuse making player in the beer commercials. I just don't think those are the best guys to have on your team......

                        Braylon has pledged $1 million of his own money for Cleveland School scholarships. Who else on the team has done that? What has Joe Thomas pledged? Others?

                        What kind of guys do you want on the team?

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                          Kiwanuka (6'5" 265) posted 8.0 sacks last year. I thought the word on him was that he was a bit of a disappointment prior to that.

                          I wouldn't think that the pick would be very high. Maybe a 4th or 5th?

                          -Al

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                          Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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                          @geech said:

                          Kiwanuka (6'5" 265) posted 8.0 sacks last year. I thought the word on him was that he was a bit of a disappointment prior to that.

                          I wouldn't think that the pick would be very high. Maybe a 4th or 5th?

                          -Al

                          As far as sacks he may have been disappointing. I think he had 4 in 2007. But he's done a great job making tackles. Averaging around 50 a year. His numbers are better than Canty's.

                          He's only 25 years old.

                          If they are offering a 3rd or 4th and Kiwanuka, I'd hope they'd pull the trigger on this deal

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                            @ballpeen said:

                            But in the end, Edwards reminds me of "Leon"...the excuse making player in the beer commercials. I just don't think those are the best guys to have on your team......

                            Braylon has pledged $1 million of his own money for Cleveland School scholarships. Who else on the team has done that? What has Joe Thomas pledged? Others?

                            What kind of guys do you want on the team?

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                            Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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                            @roach said:

                            Braylon has pledged $1 million of his own money for Cleveland School scholarships. Who else on the team has done that? What has Joe Thomas pledged? Others?

                            What kind of guys do you want on the team?

                            He offered 1 million in scholarships through his foundation. Not to the Cleveland schools, but to individuals. More than likely he is not giving a million of his own money. It comes from a foundation.

                            But as far as who the fans would like to see playing WR? One that holds on to a ball. One that doesn't blame his QB for his drops. One that isn't paranoid and doesn't claim everyone hates him because he's from UM and drives a Bentley.

                            The guy is a piece of work. Regardless of any charity.

                            Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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                              @roach said:

                              Braylon has pledged $1 million of his own money for Cleveland School scholarships. Who else on the team has done that? What has Joe Thomas pledged? Others?

                              What kind of guys do you want on the team?

                              He offered 1 million in scholarships through his foundation. Not to the Cleveland schools, but to individuals. More than likely he is not giving a million of his own money. It comes from a foundation.

                              But as far as who the fans would like to see playing WR? One that holds on to a ball. One that doesn't blame his QB for his drops. One that isn't paranoid and doesn't claim everyone hates him because he's from UM and drives a Bentley.

                              The guy is a piece of work. Regardless of any charity.

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                              oldcow1945 said:

                              He offered 1 million in scholarships through his foundation. Not to the Cleveland schools, but to individuals. More than likely he is not giving a million of his own money. It comes from a foundation.

                              Dude, scholarships go to individuals (students). i knew that. What's your point?

                              And guess what- money from foundations first needs to come from individuals (Braylon). People give money to Foundations and Foundations make the final decisions on who gets it. Braylon has hired people (likely volunteers) who are skilled in deciding where or whom the money should go. That's common.

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                                oldcow1945 said:

                                He offered 1 million in scholarships through his foundation. Not to the Cleveland schools, but to individuals. More than likely he is not giving a million of his own money. It comes from a foundation.

                                Dude, scholarships go to individuals (students). i knew that. What's your point?

                                And guess what- money from foundations first needs to come from individuals (Braylon). People give money to Foundations and Foundations make the final decisions on who gets it. Braylon has hired people (likely volunteers) who are skilled in deciding where or whom the money should go. That's common.

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                                ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                @roach said:

                                Dude, scholarships go to individuals (students). i knew that. What's your point?

                                And guess what- money from foundations first needs to come from individuals (Braylon). People give money to Foundations and Foundations make the final decisions on who gets it. Braylon has hired people (likely volunteers) who are skilled in deciding where or whom the money should go. That's common.

                                No doubt.....if it is his foundation, he seeded it with his money, and no matter how you slice it.....a million bucks is a sizeable sum.

                                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                  Any Links????

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                                    DTBHD DTBH wrote on last edited by DTBH
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                                    People who really know who Braylon is don't think of him as a selfish, "Leon" from beer commercials type guy. He's an intelligent, articulate, motivated young guy... regardless of whether he can catch the ball.

                                    Plaxico is me first ... TO is me first ...

                                    Braylon, like Larry Fitzgerald ... is not.

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