mock draft thread
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my latest attempt at the fanspeak auto draft:
doubt if it could happen or farmer would do this but it'd definitely send a message to the opponents that you won't run on us anymore.
my latest attempt at the fanspeak auto draft:
doubt if it could happen or farmer would do this but it'd definitely send a message to the opponents that you won't run on us anymore.
Some might claim you are a Buckeye honk....taking so many from that school,
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On CBSSports.com
Second rounder.
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Some might claim you are a Buckeye honk....taking so many from that school,
Also, Devin Smith will be gone before the 3rd
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Some might claim you are a Buckeye honk....taking so many from that school,
Also, Devin Smith will be gone before the 3rd
Also, Devin Smith will be gone before the 3rd
Devin Smith should probably go before Funchess.....but he probably won't. No, I think 2d and 3rd round for each is right.
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On CBSSports.com
Second rounder.
Second rounder.
1) We'll need to see his combine
2) We'll have to see if there is a run on WRs
3) I hope he goes to a team with a creative/good offense that could utilize him best (Patriots, Broncos, etc). Basically what I was hoping for Denard and he ended up with the fucking Jags. That's not to say I wouldn't like him here, but I am not sure our staff could utilize him well enough. So, the Pats might take him at 32 right at the very end.
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Also, Devin Smith will be gone before the 3rd
Devin Smith should probably go before Funchess.....but he probably won't. No, I think 2d and 3rd round for each is right.
Devin Smith should probably go before Funchess.....but he probably won't. No, I think 2d and 3rd round for each is right.
Why should Smith go before Funchess?
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Devin Smith should probably go before Funchess.....but he probably won't. No, I think 2d and 3rd round for each is right.
Why should Smith go before Funchess?
Why should Smith go before Funchess?
seriously?.......12 tds in 33 catches......and a 28 yard average are 2 BIG reasons......and Smith can catch well too....
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i know funchess needs to work on his hands, but his size and strength would be an asset to any team IMO. i had him in another fanspeak auto draft but there are plenty more big TE/WR hybrid guys coming out every year now it seems.
hell mike evans could have been called a tight end except for where he lined up.
i know funchess needs to work on his hands, but his size and strength would be an asset to any team IMO. i had him in another fanspeak auto draft but there are plenty more big TE/WR hybrid guys coming out every year now it seems.
hell mike evans could have been called a tight end except for where he lined up.
I see it as a negative because with his size he doesn't create seperation with his routes and his hands are questionable. I would probably curse just as loud as the day we took Braylon.
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i know funchess needs to work on his hands, but his size and strength would be an asset to any team IMO. i had him in another fanspeak auto draft but there are plenty more big TE/WR hybrid guys coming out every year now it seems.
hell mike evans could have been called a tight end except for where he lined up.
I see it as a negative because with his size he doesn't create seperation with his routes and his hands are questionable. I would probably curse just as loud as the day we took Braylon.
I see it as a negative because with his size he doesn't create seperation with his routes and his hands are questionable. I would probably curse just as loud as the day we took Braylon.
Braylon was a monster in college. If you cursed loudly when we took Braylon I imagine it was due to being an OSU fan, not any deep insight you had on his ability. But, I'm sure you totally knew best back then...
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Why should Smith go before Funchess?
seriously?.......12 tds in 33 catches......and a 28 yard average are 2 BIG reasons......and Smith can catch well too....
seriously?.......12 tds in 33 catches......and a 28 yard average are 2 BIG reasons......and Smith can catch well too....
I didn't realize stats are the one thing that determines a players draft grade.
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I didn't realize stats are the one thing that determines a players draft grade.
and I dont think I said they did....
Just a big part of the equation and analysis.....
you asked for 2 reasons.....I gave you 3.....
Here's more reasons(less stats)....better speed, better hands, more YAC, unique ability to score TD's.....
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I didn't realize stats are the one thing that determines a players draft grade.
and I dont think I said they did....
Just a big part of the equation and analysis.....
you asked for 2 reasons.....I gave you 3.....
Here's more reasons(less stats)....better speed, better hands, more YAC, unique ability to score TD's.....
and I dont think I said they did....
Just a big part of the equation and analysis.....
you asked for 2 reasons.....I gave you 3.....
Here's more reasons(less stats)....better speed, better hands, more YAC, unique ability to score TD's.....
"unique ability to score TDs" Could you expand on that? I am interested in what is "unique" there.
It will probably come down to which team wants a WR when, and what type or WR they want. Smitch and Funchess are two very, very different WRs. Teams that are interested in one may not be interested in another.
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well.....id consider 12 TD's out of 33 catches an extremely high number....making it unique(which means kinda rare)..........
And 28 yds per catch is off the charts.....
So, yes, his #'s are very unique(not common)
And, while I get that teams have different needs, I think the Browns need a big play maker....and to me, Smith fills that role better than Funchess....
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I see it as a negative because with his size he doesn't create seperation with his routes and his hands are questionable. I would probably curse just as loud as the day we took Braylon.
Braylon was a monster in college. If you cursed loudly when we took Braylon I imagine it was due to being an OSU fan, not any deep insight you had on his ability. But, I'm sure you totally knew best back then...
Braylon was a monster in college. If you cursed loudly when we took Braylon I imagine it was due to being an OSU fan, not any deep insight you had on his ability. But, I'm sure you totally knew best back then...
Yeah...had NOTHING to do with the dropsies. Not a thing.... he was a fly trap receiver.
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Braylon was a monster in college. If you cursed loudly when we took Braylon I imagine it was due to being an OSU fan, not any deep insight you had on his ability. But, I'm sure you totally knew best back then...
Yeah...had NOTHING to do with the dropsies. Not a thing.... he was a fly trap receiver.
Yeah...had NOTHING to do with the dropsies. Not a thing.... he was a fly trap receiver.
Are you also one of those guys that constantly complains about how dumb Kiper is?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
well.....id consider 12 TD's out of 33 catches an extremely high number....making it unique(which means kinda rare)..........
And 28 yds per catch is off the charts.....
So, yes, his #'s are very unique(not common)
And, while I get that teams have different needs, I think the Browns need a big play maker....and to me, Smith fills that role better than Funchess....
well.....id consider 12 TD's out of 33 catches an extremely high number....making it unique(which means kinda rare)..........
And 28 yds per catch is off the charts.....
So, yes, his #'s are very unique(not common)
And, while I get that teams have different needs, I think the Browns need a big play maker....and to me, Smith fills that role better than Funchess....
So he is fast and a deep threat? I guess that's "unique"? With the run game being as strong as it was for you guys those deep bombs opened up a lot.
By that same reasoning though, I'd imagine a 6'5" WR that is still light on his feet and nimble is pretty unique too.
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whatever ....I dont have a horse in this race and it's pretty clear you're a Mich homer...so if you like Funchess, then its not my job to change that....
You asked, I answered. Simple.
And I didnt say "deep threat" was unique.....I said 33% TD rate and 28 yds catch is unique.....please dont twist it....
And if that's not unique, Id like ONE example of another receiver with numbers anywhere close to that....
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whatever ....I dont have a horse in this race and it's pretty clear you're a Mich homer...so if you like Funchess, then its not my job to change that....
You asked, I answered. Simple.
And I didnt say "deep threat" was unique.....I said 33% TD rate and 28 yds catch is unique.....please dont twist it....
And if that's not unique, Id like ONE example of another receiver with numbers anywhere close to that....
whatever ....I dont have a horse in this race and it's pretty clear you're a Mich homer...so if you like Funchess, then its not my job to change that....
You asked, I answered. Simple.
And I didnt say "deep threat" was unique.....I said 33% TD rate and 28 yds catch is unique.....please dont twist it....
And if that's not unique, Id like ONE example of another receiver with numbers anywhere close to that....
I couldn't tell you, I don't know the stats of every WR in the draft. That is a very high TD rate, but I am not sure how it directly relates to his draft stock. It could also be twisted the other way to say that he has a very limited route tree, and they didn't trust him with the more mundane catches.
I am not saying one is going higher than the other. They're two very different WRs. Teams will draft based on the type of WR they need. You just seemed certain Smith should be drafted higher, and I was curious as to why.
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whatever ....I dont have a horse in this race and it's pretty clear you're a Mich homer...so if you like Funchess, then its not my job to change that....
You asked, I answered. Simple.
And I didnt say "deep threat" was unique.....I said 33% TD rate and 28 yds catch is unique.....please dont twist it....
And if that's not unique, Id like ONE example of another receiver with numbers anywhere close to that....
I couldn't tell you, I don't know the stats of every WR in the draft. That is a very high TD rate, but I am not sure how it directly relates to his draft stock. It could also be twisted the other way to say that he has a very limited route tree, and they didn't trust him with the more mundane catches.
I am not saying one is going higher than the other. They're two very different WRs. Teams will draft based on the type of WR they need. You just seemed certain Smith should be drafted higher, and I was curious as to why.
I couldn't tell you, I don't know the stats of every WR in the draft. That is a very high TD rate, but I am not sure how it directly relates to his draft stock. It could also be twisted the other way to say that he has a very limited route tree, and they didn't trust him with the more mundane catches.
I am not saying one is going higher than the other. They're two very different WRs. Teams will draft based on the type of WR they need. You just seemed certain Smith should be drafted higher, and I was curious as to why.
I think that for a number of reasons....but mostly because, if we are talking receiver, I dont think Funchess fits the mold. Most people are projecting him as a TE project, while Devin Smith is a death threat receiver. .....and these are completely different animals....
and for the Browns, Id say Funchess doesnt fit what we need. We need a big play, over the top game breaker type(Smith). If we went for Funchess, Id say it would likely be to replace Cameron at TE.....and in the situation, there are others Id rather have.
So, for me, Funchess is a tweener, projecty type of player and not the full package at either position....while Smith just makes big play after big play......here are the Walter scouting blurbs on each....
Smith:
- Very fast
- Deep-threat receiver
- Skilled at getting separation
- Threat to score on any touch
- Home-run hitter
- Leaping ability
- Attacks the football
- Able to make contested catches
- Stretches a defense vertically
- Explosive play-maker in college
- Dangerous run-after-the-catch receiver
- Quick release off of the line
- Plug and play; ready to contribute
- Experienced and successful against quality college programs
- Good size for a speed receiver
Funchess:
Funchess is potentially a special prospect as a tight end, but his value decreases as a receiver. Funchess dropped a number of passes against Michigan State that could have gone for big plays. He showed a lack of ability to win contested catches and that is concerning for a receiver who isn't a true speed threat. Funchess also struggled to get off of the Spartans' press coverage. Adding strength for tight end to improve his blocking would be the best path for Funchess to pursue as a prospect.
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so, when I look at Smiths play and read the scoutIng reports, the words that I keep seeing are....home run hitter, explosive, attacks, dangerous, fast, wins contested balls, etc......
The Funchess repost says kinda slow, with drops, unable to separate, does NOT win contested balls, special TE project, NOT a deep threat, etc....
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