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  • R RoyceRolls

    Some of you act as if your first born child is addicted to heroin or that your wife has been fucking the neighbor's son for two years. This is just football. I know it is easy to latch on to it as if it's the most important thing in our lives, but it isn't, not even close.

    Just hang on for the ride, there are so many unknown variables. To try and judge how the Browns will look in February is a fool's errand. We should count ourselves lucky if a mediocre football teams is the biggest source of conflict in our life.

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    @roycerolls said:

    ... addicted to heroine...

    I just had a "The Commitments" flashback...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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      How the season goes in 2015 is up in the air with the decisions that are going to be made going into the season. If they go with starting JM I can't see it going well. I believe the team has enough talent with a veteran QB or Hoyer they can compete. 2016 is probably the year to go after the right QB.

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      @oldbrownsfan said:

      How the season goes in 2015 is up in the air with the decisions that are going to be made going into the season. If they go with starting JM I can't see it going well. I believe the team has enough talent with a veteran QB or Hoyer they can compete. 2016 is probably the year to go after the right QB.

      We don't have a QB. Hoyer, right now, is our best shot at success. We all know where his ceiling is and we know he doesn't want to come here. There are no good options in FA and no reasonable options in trade. Apparently we're talking with McCown - Oh boy, I'm so excited for Josh McCown. Johnny Manziel was a waste of a pick and set us back two years. We're playing the AFCW and NFCW. We're learning a new offense. We can't retain free agents. We're going to dick up the uniforms. What a great day it is to be a Browns fan.

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        @oldbrownsfan said:

        How the season goes in 2015 is up in the air with the decisions that are going to be made going into the season. If they go with starting JM I can't see it going well. I believe the team has enough talent with a veteran QB or Hoyer they can compete. 2016 is probably the year to go after the right QB.

        We don't have a QB. Hoyer, right now, is our best shot at success. We all know where his ceiling is and we know he doesn't want to come here. There are no good options in FA and no reasonable options in trade. Apparently we're talking with McCown - Oh boy, I'm so excited for Josh McCown. Johnny Manziel was a waste of a pick and set us back two years. We're playing the AFCW and NFCW. We're learning a new offense. We can't retain free agents. We're going to dick up the uniforms. What a great day it is to be a Browns fan.

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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        @vaportrail said:

        We don't have a QB. Hoyer, right now, is our best shot at success. We all know where his ceiling is and we know he doesn't want to come here. There are no good options in FA and no reasonable options in trade. Apparently we're talking with McCown - Oh boy, I'm so excited for Josh McCown. Johnny Manziel was a waste of a pick and set us back two years. We're playing the AFCW and NFCW. We're learning a new offense. We can't retain free agents. We're going to dick up the uniforms. What a great day it is to be a Browns fan.

        The best route I see now is make improvements on our defense. We can be a very good defensive team. I don't totally buy into that defense alone wins you games, you have to have some offense. I think Hoyer may give us enough offense.

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          @oldbrownsfan said:

          How the season goes in 2015 is up in the air with the decisions that are going to be made going into the season. If they go with starting JM I can't see it going well. I believe the team has enough talent with a veteran QB or Hoyer they can compete. 2016 is probably the year to go after the right QB.

          We don't have a QB. Hoyer, right now, is our best shot at success. We all know where his ceiling is and we know he doesn't want to come here. There are no good options in FA and no reasonable options in trade. Apparently we're talking with McCown - Oh boy, I'm so excited for Josh McCown. Johnny Manziel was a waste of a pick and set us back two years. We're playing the AFCW and NFCW. We're learning a new offense. We can't retain free agents. We're going to dick up the uniforms. What a great day it is to be a Browns fan.

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          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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          @vaportrail said:

          We don't have a QB. Hoyer, right now, is our best shot at success. We all know where his ceiling is and we know he doesn't want to come here. There are no good options in FA and no reasonable options in trade. Apparently we're talking with McCown - Oh boy, I'm so excited for Josh McCown. Johnny Manziel was a waste of a pick and set us back two years. We're playing the AFCW and NFCW. We're learning a new offense. We can't retain free agents. We're going to dick up the uniforms. What a great day it is to be a Browns fan.

          Let the good times roll!

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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            @oldbrownsfan said:

            How the season goes in 2015 is up in the air with the decisions that are going to be made going into the season. If they go with starting JM I can't see it going well. I believe the team has enough talent with a veteran QB or Hoyer they can compete. 2016 is probably the year to go after the right QB.

            We don't have a QB. Hoyer, right now, is our best shot at success. We all know where his ceiling is and we know he doesn't want to come here. There are no good options in FA and no reasonable options in trade. Apparently we're talking with McCown - Oh boy, I'm so excited for Josh McCown. Johnny Manziel was a waste of a pick and set us back two years. We're playing the AFCW and NFCW. We're learning a new offense. We can't retain free agents. We're going to dick up the uniforms. What a great day it is to be a Browns fan.

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            gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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            @vaportrail said:

            We don't have a QB. Hoyer, right now, is our best shot at success. We all know where his ceiling is and we know he doesn't want to come here. There are no good options in FA and no reasonable options in trade. Apparently we're talking with McCown - Oh boy, I'm so excited for Josh McCown. Johnny Manziel was a waste of a pick and set us back two years. We're playing the AFCW and NFCW. We're learning a new offense. We can't retain free agents. We're going to dick up the uniforms. What a great day it is to be a Browns fan.

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              miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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              half these kids on here act as though rooting for the browns for 5-10 years is a death sentence.

              if that was the case i'd be dead 30 years ago.

              this is the way we roll. ups, downs, sides to sides........like the old blue streak at cedar point. you wanna put your hands up but if you do it at the wrong time you'll be launched into sandusky bay.

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                half these kids on here act as though rooting for the browns for 5-10 years is a death sentence.

                if that was the case i'd be dead 30 years ago.

                this is the way we roll. ups, downs, sides to sides........like the old blue streak at cedar point. you wanna put your hands up but if you do it at the wrong time you'll be launched into sandusky bay.

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                VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                @miktoxic said:

                half these kids on here act as though rooting for the browns for 5-10 years is a death sentence.

                if that was the case i'd be dead 30 years ago.

                this is the way we roll. ups, downs, sides to sides........like the old blue streak at cedar point. you wanna put your hands up but if you do it at the wrong time you'll be launched into sandusky bay.

                I was born in the late 80s. The only ups I remember are blowing the wildcard to Pittsburgh and Derek Anderson's magical season.

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                  @miktoxic said:

                  half these kids on here act as though rooting for the browns for 5-10 years is a death sentence.

                  if that was the case i'd be dead 30 years ago.

                  this is the way we roll. ups, downs, sides to sides........like the old blue streak at cedar point. you wanna put your hands up but if you do it at the wrong time you'll be launched into sandusky bay.

                  I was born in the late 80s. The only ups I remember are blowing the wildcard to Pittsburgh and Derek Anderson's magical season.

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                  @vaportrail said:

                  I was born in the late 80s. The only ups I remember are blowing the wildcard to Pittsburgh and Derek Anderson's magical season.

                  I got to watch all the 80s failures as a little kid. 6,7, and 9 is not too young to feel heartbreaking losses.

                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                    I actually think my expectations may have risen, Johnny Manziel was a terrible pick, but you are correct that this franchise is a clusterfuck.

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                      "We will Franchise tag Rubin or Sheard"

                      Zero chance on either of those IMO. Rubinwas wildly overpaid for his production last year and would require a significant bump. Sheard is *fine* but would command top 5 OLB money, and he's not worth close to that. 2 sacks?

                      I'd be surprised if we franchise anyone this year.

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                      hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                      @gftchris said:

                      "We will Franchise tag Rubin or Sheard"

                      Zero chance on either of those IMO. Rubinwas wildly overpaid for his production last year and would require a significant bump. Sheard is *fine* but would command top 5 OLB money, and he's not worth close to that. 2 sacks?

                      I'd be surprised if we franchise anyone this year.

                      If they can't resign him, the Browns will almost certainly tag Gipson.

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                          @gftchris said:

                          "We will Franchise tag Rubin or Sheard"

                          Zero chance on either of those IMO. Rubinwas wildly overpaid for his production last year and would require a significant bump. Sheard is *fine* but would command top 5 OLB money, and he's not worth close to that. 2 sacks?

                          I'd be surprised if we franchise anyone this year.

                          If they can't resign him, the Browns will almost certainly tag Gipson.

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                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                          @hoorta said:

                          If they can't resign him, the Browns will almost certainly tag Gipson.

                          Since he's ERFA, not UFA, they'll put a first round tender on him. But they'll resign him either way.

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                            T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                            I'll keep feeding the addicts in denial.

                            NFL Network beginning 9am eastern time tomorrow showcasing prospect testing.

                            http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2368975-nfl-combine-schedule-2015-live-stream-and-tv-info-for-prospect-showcase

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland-browns/post/_/id/11865/browns-could-have-kept-justin-gilberts-personal-issue-private

                              Another scandal 😡 . Pettine said about Justin Gilbert “I don’t want to get into it,” Pettine said. “It’s very personal.”

                              This stuff cannot possibly be going on with other NFL teams where every word gets twisted and magnified ridiculously out of proportion.

                              Really, the coach saying the issues with Gilbert is personal is that bad??

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                                D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                Just another day..........

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                                  Just another day..........

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                                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                  @d-bone said:

                                  Just another day..........

                                  Somebody posted a thread earlier about stop the piling on. It's like the media can't help themselves. I get frustrated with it as a fan but I know until the team can start winning on a regular basis these are the kinds of stories they feed on.

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                                    It would sure help if the team would stop giving them stories to feed on.

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                                      OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                      One team deflates footballs and that was a scandal until they won the SB then that story faded off the headlines. It all comes down to winning. Yeah you don't want to give the media the stories but the story I posted about Pettine and Gilbert's personal issues is a non story at best. So in that respect it is just going to happen continually until the team starts winning on a regular basis. I think with Pettine he will get the job done in 3 years. That is the goal I would like to see anyway.

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                                        If Pet gets a QB, we'll win. I don't see Johnny ever being that QB, regardless of how he comes out of rehab, so the FO has to pull a rabbit out of the hat.

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                                          For the first time in ever I don't even care what the browns do or don't do in free agency. I don't care who they put on the field. I don't care who they draft. I'm not sure I can bear spending 16 weeks in my favorite time of the year sitting in front of the television watching this train wreck. They have to win me back now and not on draft day or in press conferences. On the field.

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                                          Thank god for the buckeyes.

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                                          EdwardejwE Edwardejw wrote on last edited by
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                                          @the-cysko-kid said:

                                          For the first time in ever I don't even care what the browns do or don't do in free agency. I don't care who they put on the field. I don't care who they draft. I'm not sure I can bear spending 16 weeks in my favorite time of the year sitting in front of the television watching this train wreck. They have to win me back now and not on draft day or in press conferences. On the field.

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                                          The vibe of your post is totally counter of your avatar. The FO has been too impatient with the coaching staff. With as many HC's and the Browns have had since their re-entry, it is ridiculous. How many starting QB's? Totally nuts. The league stacked the deck against the expansion Browns and Texans in '99. No way were they going to win with the picks they were given, not like when Carolina came in. The Texans drafted wisely and they had 3 straight playoff appearances and then in 2013 they won their first 2 and lost 14 straight.

                                          I say draft Lael Collins(OT) and a wide out in the first round, defensive lineman in the second and go from there.

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