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Pet on #1 Need for 2015 Playoffs: "It starts on Defense."

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  • miktoxic miktoxicM
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    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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    thank god they finally listened to my voicemails!

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      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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      I saw that earlier today. I agree.

      I do think the D is close. My thinking is just go ahead and make it top notch. Get something fixed. Almost just doesn't cut it.

      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        Great read and interview. Thanks for posting Tour.

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          T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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          bleacherreport Browns draft predictions all 10 spots.

          http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2373527-cleveland-browns-mock-draft-7-round-predictions-post-combine

          If they think LSU's Collins drops to us in the 2nd, they lose all credibility.

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            bleacherreport Browns draft predictions all 10 spots.

            http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2373527-cleveland-browns-mock-draft-7-round-predictions-post-combine

            If they think LSU's Collins drops to us in the 2nd, they lose all credibility.

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            LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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            @texasag1969 said:

            bleacherreport Browns draft predictions all 10 spots.

            http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2373527-cleveland-browns-mock-draft-7-round-predictions-post-combine

            If they think LSU's Collins drops to us in the 2nd, they lose all credibility.

            Yeah there is no fucking way Collins makes it to the second.

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              bleacherreport Browns draft predictions all 10 spots.

              http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2373527-cleveland-browns-mock-draft-7-round-predictions-post-combine

              If they think LSU's Collins drops to us in the 2nd, they lose all credibility.

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              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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              @texasag1969 said:

              bleacherreport Browns draft predictions all 10 spots.

              http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2373527-cleveland-browns-mock-draft-7-round-predictions-post-combine

              If they think LSU's Collins drops to us in the 2nd, they lose all credibility.

              Its very possible, actually.

              Also, in response to the spirit of the original post. The more I watch other players, the more comments I listen from our coaching staff - the more I believe we address defense early.

              Offensive line will be mid round prospects for quality depth. WR will be late first into the 2nd-3rd rounds.

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                WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                Just draft DT, ILB, OLB with the first 3 picks.

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                  Just draft DT, ILB, OLB with the first 3 picks.

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                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                  @walterwhite said:

                  Just draft DT, ILB, OLB with the first 3 picks.

                  Flip OLB and ILB in that order and I'm on board.

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    One of the picks in the first three must be a wr. If Kevin White is there,

                    the Browns would pass him up?

                    Nope, imhso. I think the Browns would do well to sign that big NT ...

                    Knighton? from TB? FA....

                    that would change the three choices dramatically.

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                      One of the picks in the first three must be a wr. If Kevin White is there,

                      the Browns would pass him up?

                      Nope, imhso. I think the Browns would do well to sign that big NT ...

                      Knighton? from TB? FA....

                      that would change the three choices dramatically.

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                      T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      One of the picks in the first three must be a wr. If Kevin White is there,

                      the Browns would pass him up?

                      Nope, imhso. I think the Browns would do well to sign that big NT ...

                      Knighton? from TB? FA....

                      that would change the three choices dramatically.

                      There are several good wr's again this year. DT, ILB and OL. Inside out.

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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        One of the picks in the first three must be a wr. If Kevin White is there,

                        the Browns would pass him up?

                        Nope, imhso. I think the Browns would do well to sign that big NT ...

                        Knighton? from TB? FA....

                        that would change the three choices dramatically.

                        There are several good wr's again this year. DT, ILB and OL. Inside out.

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                        @texasag1969 said:

                        There are several good wr's again this year. DT, ILB and OL. Inside out.

                        that's how i see it if everything falls into place that way.

                        very deep DL draft. it could go in any order. if a #1 OL is there at 12 and there are no trade downs you take them don't you?

                        at this point white and cooper will prob go top ten. i don't think the browns trade up 2-3 spots for one of them given pettine's remarks.

                        a NT on the other hand.............

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                          Knowing Pettine to be a straight shooter what he is saying is awesome. He expects the Browns to have one of the best defenses in the NFL next season as well as having one of the best offensive lines.

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                            T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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                            If we get Shelton or Brown at #12 and a truly great pass rushing DE is there @ #19, I'd take him even before the ILB to complement Kruger. Nothing creates turnovers like a good middle run stopper surrounded by pass rushers. The ILB's we have now are adequate under this scenario IMHO. WR is deep enough to wait to the second round without jumping up.

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                            • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

                              Knowing Pettine to be a straight shooter what he is saying is awesome. He expects the Browns to have one of the best defenses in the NFL next season as well as having one of the best offensive lines.

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                              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                              @oldbrownsfan said:

                              Knowing Pettine to be a straight shooter what he is saying is awesome. He expects the Browns to have one of the best defenses in the NFL next season as well as having one of the best offensive lines.

                              That right there is the ticket to curing a question mark at QB. Think Dilfer and the Ravens.

                              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                Now were talking. We do not win shoot out's(thanks ATL.) so hold them under 20. FA's signing must be key to what we do in the draft to finish are needs. Sliding Down in draft to get your need is a whole lot easier than Going up and would prefer not giving up shit to try to move up. We sit at 12, NT D. Shelton some board's have him there some no chance. At start FA, watch NT T. Knighton out of Denver fits our Cap and Need. At 12 and 19 it's mostly DE and DT and OL. ILB's starts pick 25ish, OLB starts pick 32ish?? our next pick 77..

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                                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                                  Lot's of options and no doubt what we do in free agency will impact what we do in the draft.

                                  I don't see any moves up in the draft, but I could see a slide down if we have some targets in the 20's and someone wants our draft position. Farmer has shown he likes to bank draft picks. I could see moving from 19 to 24 and pick up a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year.

                                  To pick up a 1st rounder we would have to slide way down since we aren't sitting at the top of the draft. I don't know that I would want to do that.

                                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                    One of the picks in the first three must be a wr. If Kevin White is there,

                                    the Browns would pass him up?

                                    Nope, imhso. I think the Browns would do well to sign that big NT ...

                                    Knighton? from TB? FA....

                                    that would change the three choices dramatically.

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    One of the picks in the first three must be a wr. If Kevin White is there,

                                    the Browns would pass him up?

                                    Nope, imhso. I think the Browns would do well to sign that big NT ...

                                    Knighton? from TB? FA....

                                    that would change the three choices dramatically.

                                    That goes to Farmer's philosophy which is that a WR is a minor player in a team's success as they only get on average 5-6 touches in a game.

                                    Now, I believe that top notch WR should get about 10 touches per game.....and if you have 2 top receivers that goes up to 16-18 touches per game.

                                    So, like we used to say on the innfield when a man was on first: Let's get two.

                                    If a Cooper or a White is there at 12....or 19, go ahead and take one of them. Or is not in round 1, get a Devin Smith say in round 2.

                                    Then a Levi Norwood or Evan Spencer in round 6-7.

                                    Can't hurt.

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                                      @walterwhite said:

                                      Just draft DT, ILB, OLB with the first 3 picks.

                                      Flip OLB and ILB in that order and I'm on board.

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                                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                                      ... or could hurt a lot.

                                      I'm all for WRs, RBs and CBs shining. Will push the best of what we need to us.

                                      @tiamat63 said:

                                      Flip OLB and ILB in that order and I'm on board.

                                      I'm good with any standout, front 7 prospect getting called at #12. I had a dream draft yesterday on FanSpeak where Beasley and Shelton were there at 12, I took Beasley and Shelton was still there at 19... Like I said, it was a dream draft. Nothing like wrapping up 3 needs in 2 players.

                                      Aside: Seeing more projections that one of my OLB value picks, Markus Golden, is being projected inside by some.

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                                        MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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                                        Pettines comments bring me full circle to something I was saying just last week.......and I know people will HATE this.....but....

                                        Dont be surprised to see them pick a couple DB's early.....a safety or 2....maybe another CB......

                                        I know everyone wants WR, LB and DL, but Im thinking they' still like their guys and think they'll play better when healthy....

                                        And Im surprised no one is concerned about our depth at Safety, when we have zero backups.....

                                        So, Im predicting they go DT, SS/CB, then O line..........

                                        Sheard/Robertson are keys to LB...if they sign, then we wont be picking one early.....

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                                          Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                                          I'm thinking OL, DL, ILB, CB/SS in that order.

                                          The running game went to shit after Mack went down, and had no depth.

                                          After Taylor went down, opposing teams had their backups look like Jim Brown.

                                          The WR's can wait, either later in the draft or pick up one in FA.

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