Josh McCown let go by the Bucs
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I am guessing the front office has no problem with keeping Hoyer. It's just they don't want to seem too eager to the agent. Let them shop around and see how many teams are chomping at the bit to guarantee him a starting slot and a long guaranteed contract. I would guess the market isn't as Rosie as they have been hoping.
WSS
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Start JFF so we can go 0-16 and draft Cardale Jones with the first pick, a guy can hope can't he?
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canning it for cardale would only ensure one thing, that another regime change could happen and that's the last thing this team needs (unless of course haslam signs off on it).
sure indy did it for luck but i really doubt that pro football players go on the field and tank a game on purpose. they do have pride ya know?
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We wont can it we will just send JFF out there and we will lose guarentee
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canning it for cardale would only ensure one thing, that another regime change could happen and that's the last thing this team needs (unless of course haslam signs off on it).
sure indy did it for luck but i really doubt that pro football players go on the field and tank a game on purpose. they do have pride ya know?
But come on wed be doing it for an Ohio and Cleveland native Big Ten quarterback who has started three games! That has to be some sort of a guarantee, right?canning it for cardale would only ensure one thing, that another regime change could happen and that's the last thing this team needs (unless of course haslam signs off on it).
sure indy did it for luck but i really doubt that pro football players go on the field and tank a game on purpose. they do have pride ya know?
WSS
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But come on wed be doing it for an Ohio and Cleveland native Big Ten quarterback who has started three games! That has to be some sort of a guarantee, right?canning it for cardale would only ensure one thing, that another regime change could happen and that's the last thing this team needs (unless of course haslam signs off on it).
sure indy did it for luck but i really doubt that pro football players go on the field and tank a game on purpose. they do have pride ya know?
WSS
But come on wed be doing it for an Ohio and Cleveland native Big Ten quarterback who has started three games! That has to be some sort of a guarantee, right?
WSS
lol.
not even close.
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Even with new helmets?
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well maybe if you include that Pokemon dog logo...
WSS
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I am...
No, Josh McCown cannot put a team on his shoulders (those guys are all taken in case you haven't noticed), but he's a great choice for a continuation of what we did in 2014.
The guy can Play-action his ass off. May lose a bit of headiness vs. Hoyer, but gain more arm. Josh McCown can be that complementary, game-managing, bridge QB for a year or two and then settle into a back-up role.
Trestman will want him in BLT, but we can offer him the starter role.
For a bridge QB, I'd much rather have Hoyer resign in Cleveland. As I've said before, there has yet to be a game Hoyer started where I felt we didn't have a chance to win.
We'd be sacrificing knowledge, comfortability, and mental acuity for a slightly stronger arm. To me, that's not worth it.
For a bridge QB, I'd much rather have Hoyer resign in Cleveland.
I am assuming Hoyer is gone.
So early 2014 Hoyer vs. 2013 McCown? Close call, but I am inclined to lean towards Josh.
Im assuming he's gone too..
Perhaps I don't understand the interest in McCown yet the lack of in Hoyer.
For me.....and as a bridge.....McCown seems like the better option simply because he can accept his role...no matter what it is.....
As a bridge QB, it would seem we need someone who is wiling to help develop younger qb's...willing to sit(without ego issues).....willing to share with guys like JFF.....etc....
Hoyer has been pretty clear that his focus is to be a starter and he wasn't exactly a great tutor for the younger QB's, who he views as competitors. If the Browns dont see him as the future starter, but thats all he wants to be...then they are on different trains going different directions...
McCown, on the other hand, is openly willing to sit..teach...coach...or play...whatever we need...which, right now, IS what we need.
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For a bridge QB, I'd much rather have Hoyer resign in Cleveland.
I am assuming Hoyer is gone.
So early 2014 Hoyer vs. 2013 McCown? Close call, but I am inclined to lean towards Josh.
Im assuming he's gone too..
Perhaps I don't understand the interest in McCown yet the lack of in Hoyer.
For me.....and as a bridge.....McCown seems like the better option simply because he can accept his role...no matter what it is.....
As a bridge QB, it would seem we need someone who is wiling to help develop younger qb's...willing to sit(without ego issues).....willing to share with guys like JFF.....etc....
Hoyer has been pretty clear that his focus is to be a starter and he wasn't exactly a great tutor for the younger QB's, who he views as competitors. If the Browns dont see him as the future starter, but thats all he wants to be...then they are on different trains going different directions...
McCown, on the other hand, is openly willing to sit..teach...coach...or play...whatever we need...which, right now, IS what we need.
Im assuming he's gone too..
For me.....and as a bridge.....McCown seems like the better option simply because he can accept his role...no matter what it is.....
As a bridge QB, it would seem we need someone who is wiling to help develop younger qb's...willing to sit(without ego issues).....willing to share with guys like JFF.....etc....
Hoyer has been pretty clear that his focus is to be a starter and he wasn't exactly a great tutor for the younger QB's, who he views as competitors. If the Browns dont see him as the future starter, but thats all he wants to be...then they are on different trains going different directions...
McCown, on the other hand, is openly willing to sit..teach...coach...or play...whatever we need...which, right now, IS what we need.
I think you're right on all counts.
Hands down, McCown would be the guy I see as the ideal fit, whether the young QB to be tutored is Johnny or someone else.
Mike
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I agree Mudfly and Mike.
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Hoyer done here, can't say I don't blame him. First-draft Manziel. 2nd Farmer and Owner want Manziel on field. 3rd bring in McCown. TB has decided Winston and Glennon compete for Starter in Tampa Bay and McCown out. I Believe Hoyer is over any text to field and Farmer can't cover it up. Damn shame Hoyer never had a chance to keep Gordon on the field for 2 years. Cameron and injuries to the Best OL in the League all sucks From your HomeTown Team. Hope Hoyer get's paid and does well..
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For a bridge QB, I'd much rather have Hoyer resign in Cleveland.
I am assuming Hoyer is gone.
So early 2014 Hoyer vs. 2013 McCown? Close call, but I am inclined to lean towards Josh.
Im assuming he's gone too..
Perhaps I don't understand the interest in McCown yet the lack of in Hoyer.
For me.....and as a bridge.....McCown seems like the better option simply because he can accept his role...no matter what it is.....
As a bridge QB, it would seem we need someone who is wiling to help develop younger qb's...willing to sit(without ego issues).....willing to share with guys like JFF.....etc....
Hoyer has been pretty clear that his focus is to be a starter and he wasn't exactly a great tutor for the younger QB's, who he views as competitors. If the Browns dont see him as the future starter, but thats all he wants to be...then they are on different trains going different directions...
McCown, on the other hand, is openly willing to sit..teach...coach...or play...whatever we need...which, right now, IS what we need.
McCown, on the other hand, is openly willing to sit..teach...coach...or play...whatever we need...which, right now, IS what we need.
I've been hearing McCown is looking for $5 mill a year for his services.
Seems a bit steep for a 35 yr old bridge QB/tutor/mentor or whatever he's looking for.
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McCown, on the other hand, is openly willing to sit..teach...coach...or play...whatever we need...which, right now, IS what we need.
I've been hearing McCown is looking for $5 mill a year for his services.
Seems a bit steep for a 35 yr old bridge QB/tutor/mentor or whatever he's looking for.
I've been hearing McCown is looking for $5 mill a year for his services.....Seems a bit steep
Yes it does.....not sure where you got that figure, but cant believe its valid
He's never made that much his entire career...
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I've been hearing McCown is looking for $5 mill a year for his services.....Seems a bit steep
Yes it does.....not sure where you got that figure, but cant believe its valid
He's never made that much his entire career...
Yes it does.....not sure where you got that figure, but cant believe its valid
He's never made that much his entire career...
They were throwing that 5 mill figure around on the radio a couple of days ago.
But you know as well as I do that just because he's asking for 5 mill doesn't mean he's going to get it.
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Hoyer done here, can't say I don't blame him. First-draft Manziel. 2nd Farmer and Owner want Manziel on field. 3rd bring in McCown. TB has decided Winston and Glennon compete for Starter in Tampa Bay and McCown out. I Believe Hoyer is over any text to field and Farmer can't cover it up. Damn shame Hoyer never had a chance to keep Gordon on the field for 2 years. Cameron and injuries to the Best OL in the League all sucks From your HomeTown Team. Hope Hoyer get's paid and does well..
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I heard on the radio this morning that he left without signing. Apparently making up his mind on where to go (other interviews).
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Yes it does.....not sure where you got that figure, but cant believe its valid
He's never made that much his entire career...
They were throwing that 5 mill figure around on the radio a couple of days ago.
But you know as well as I do that just because he's asking for 5 mill doesn't mean he's going to get it.
They were throwing that 5 mill figure around on the radio a couple of days ago.
But you know as well as I do that just because he's asking for 5 mill doesn't mean he's going to get it.
Im thinking the radio guys must have had some bad info.......cant believe he's asking nearly that much
I heard on the radio this morning that he left without signing. Apparently making up his mind on where to go (other interviews).
making up his mind?
did the Browns offer a contract?
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