EJ Manuel likely to be cut by Bills (rumor)
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Actually if Johnny Manziel lost that competition it would mean a lot less then you might think.
Brandon Weeden beat out Jason Campbell and Brian Hoyer in camp.
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Actually if Johnny Manziel lost that competition it would mean a lot less then you might think.
Brandon Weeden beat out Jason Campbell and Brian Hoyer in camp.
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Actually if Johnny Manziel lost that competition it would mean a lot less then you might think.
Brandon Weeden beat out Jason Campbell and Brian Hoyer in camp.
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It meant that we had to draft Johnny Manziel. If Manziel can't beat out Manuel, then we'll likely be looking at yet another first round quarterback.
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Actually if Johnny Manziel lost that competition it would mean a lot less then you might think.
Brandon Weeden beat out Jason Campbell and Brian Hoyer in camp.
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It meant that we had to draft Johnny Manziel. If Manziel can't beat out Manuel, then we'll likely be looking at yet another first round quarterback.
That could be the case anyway. Of course just taking a guy in the first round... Well you've heard that song before. I'm just saying but some guys look great in practice and some guys don't.It meant that we had to draft Johnny Manziel. If Manziel can't beat out Manuel, then we'll likely be looking at yet another first round quarterback.
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also I think experience as a starter counts for a great deal compared to any rookie regardless of his talent or upside.
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That could be the case anyway. Of course just taking a guy in the first round... Well you've heard that song before. I'm just saying but some guys look great in practice and some guys don't.It meant that we had to draft Johnny Manziel. If Manziel can't beat out Manuel, then we'll likely be looking at yet another first round quarterback.
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That could be the case anyway. Of course just taking a guy in the first round... Well you've heard that song before. I'm just saying but some guys look great in practice and some guys don't.
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Very true. Weeden wasn't a world beater in practice, but he did look pretty solid. Solid enough to win that starting job...and we all know how that turned out.
also I think experience as a starter counts for a great deal compared to any rookie regardless of his talent or upside.
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As do I, there is no substitute for NFL game experience. With that said, I also think that there's a certain ceiling for that. If a guy has played 40-50 games in the NFL, it's highly unlikely that he's going to be anything different than what he's proven to be in the past, especially if the guy has bounced around to a couple different teams.
That's why I'd rather we take Manuel than McCown. Manuel has the experience of being a starter, but he's still young and he's only been with one team. He hasn't flamed out anywhere else yet. He could still very easily end up being a Josh Freeman or Kyle Boller, but there's still a chance that he just needs a fresh start with a young team.
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Manuel has shown enough to prove he's terrible, plain and simple. Typical guy who has the size and physical tools but nothing else. The year he was drafted if it had ANY QB's worth a crap he would have been a mid 2nd to 3rd round pick at best. A fresh start won't fix the fact he can't play the position in the NFL.
Another case of I'd rather see what Manziel's got than go this route.
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I don't understand why they would fo this. He was raw, but had a great Sr Bowl and seemed like a good development opportunity
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Manuel has shown enough to prove he's terrible, plain and simple. Typical guy who has the size and physical tools but nothing else. The year he was drafted if it had ANY QB's worth a crap he would have been a mid 2nd to 3rd round pick at best. A fresh start won't fix the fact he can't play the position in the NFL.
Another case of I'd rather see what Manziel's got than go this route.
Manuel has shown enough to prove he's terrible, plain and simple. Typical guy who has the size and physical tools but nothing else. The year he was drafted if it had ANY QB's worth a crap he would have been a mid 2nd to 3rd round pick at best. A fresh start won't fix the fact he can't play the position in the NFL.
Another case of I'd rather see what Manziel's got than go this route.
I don't think it's that plain and simple. Manuel is still quite young and has yet to start an entire NFL season.
He's for damn sure a better look than most, if not all, of the available QB's in FA. His career rating (78.5) is higher than Hoyer's (76.8), McCown's (76.1) and Ponder's (75.9).
At this current moment, my hierarchy of potentially available NFL QB's would be:
-Foles
-Cutler
-Manuel
-Bradford
-Any FA QB
To get Foles, we'd have to move a first. That's not worth it. To get Cutler, we'd have to move a first. Plus, he'll be bringing a ridiculous contract that we'd have to renegotiate. Also not worth it. Bradford, in my opinion, is too damaged.
Manuel is young and still raw, but has NFL experience. He's more polished than any mid-late round prospects we'd get in the draft and he'll at least give Manziel a competition throughout camp. Making Manziel the de facto starter only Connor Shaw and an unnamed rookie on his heels is setting this team up for failure.
It's not the worst idea in the world. From a cost-benefit standpoint, it makes more sense than shelling out money for McCown.
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Manuel has shown enough to prove he's terrible, plain and simple. Typical guy who has the size and physical tools but nothing else. The year he was drafted if it had ANY QB's worth a crap he would have been a mid 2nd to 3rd round pick at best. A fresh start won't fix the fact he can't play the position in the NFL.
Another case of I'd rather see what Manziel's got than go this route.
I don't think it's that plain and simple. Manuel is still quite young and has yet to start an entire NFL season.
He's for damn sure a better look than most, if not all, of the available QB's in FA. His career rating (78.5) is higher than Hoyer's (76.8), McCown's (76.1) and Ponder's (75.9).
At this current moment, my hierarchy of potentially available NFL QB's would be:
-Foles
-Cutler
-Manuel
-Bradford
-Any FA QB
To get Foles, we'd have to move a first. That's not worth it. To get Cutler, we'd have to move a first. Plus, he'll be bringing a ridiculous contract that we'd have to renegotiate. Also not worth it. Bradford, in my opinion, is too damaged.
Manuel is young and still raw, but has NFL experience. He's more polished than any mid-late round prospects we'd get in the draft and he'll at least give Manziel a competition throughout camp. Making Manziel the de facto starter only Connor Shaw and an unnamed rookie on his heels is setting this team up for failure.
It's not the worst idea in the world. From a cost-benefit standpoint, it makes more sense than shelling out money for McCown.
At this current moment, my hierarchy of potentially available NFL QB's would be:
-Foles
-Cutler
-Manuel
-Bradford
-Any FA QB
well at least you can go back to design seeing as your GM skills just suck azz, lol.
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Manuel has shown enough to prove he's terrible, plain and simple. Typical guy who has the size and physical tools but nothing else. The year he was drafted if it had ANY QB's worth a crap he would have been a mid 2nd to 3rd round pick at best. A fresh start won't fix the fact he can't play the position in the NFL.
Another case of I'd rather see what Manziel's got than go this route.
I don't think it's that plain and simple. Manuel is still quite young and has yet to start an entire NFL season.
He's for damn sure a better look than most, if not all, of the available QB's in FA. His career rating (78.5) is higher than Hoyer's (76.8), McCown's (76.1) and Ponder's (75.9).
At this current moment, my hierarchy of potentially available NFL QB's would be:
-Foles
-Cutler
-Manuel
-Bradford
-Any FA QB
To get Foles, we'd have to move a first. That's not worth it. To get Cutler, we'd have to move a first. Plus, he'll be bringing a ridiculous contract that we'd have to renegotiate. Also not worth it. Bradford, in my opinion, is too damaged.
Manuel is young and still raw, but has NFL experience. He's more polished than any mid-late round prospects we'd get in the draft and he'll at least give Manziel a competition throughout camp. Making Manziel the de facto starter only Connor Shaw and an unnamed rookie on his heels is setting this team up for failure.
It's not the worst idea in the world. From a cost-benefit standpoint, it makes more sense than shelling out money for McCown.
At this current moment, my hierarchy of potentially available NFL QB's would be:
-Foles
-Cutler
-Manuel
-Bradford
-Any FA QB
You lost me at "Cutler"... but it's moot now.
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Only issue to settle now is whether McCown counts twice as a name on "the jersey"...
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At this current moment, my hierarchy of potentially available NFL QB's would be:
-Foles
-Cutler
-Manuel
-Bradford
-Any FA QB
You lost me at "Cutler"... but it's moot now.
McCown, Capt. Rehab and Petty '015!
Only issue to settle now is whether McCown counts twice as a name on "the jersey"...
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At this current moment, my hierarchy of potentially available NFL QB's would be:
-Foles
-Cutler
-Manuel
-Bradford
-Any FA QB
You lost me at "Cutler"... but it's moot now.
McCown, Capt. Rehab and Petty '015!
Only issue to settle now is whether McCown counts twice as a name on "the jersey"...
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At this current moment, my hierarchy of potentially available NFL QB's would be:
-Foles
-Cutler
-Manuel
-Bradford
-Any FA QB
well at least you can go back to design seeing as your GM skills just suck azz, lol.
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I can't believe this at all. Ryan was just talking the kid up at the combine and looked like he meant it.
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