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  • Good job Ag.....

    And lets add....the Browns have NOT said McCown is the future, the answer or the starter......so y'all can stop cryin like they did....

    Holy cow.....maybe Farmer can drop his pants and push out a starter....eh?

    Yesterday, not only did we not have a starter....we didn't even have a BACKUP...so.....

    Its VERY early...the DRAFT and FA are still out there and a LOT can happen in the coming months....possibilities???....

    1) Signing/trading for a starter can still happen and McCown becomes the experienced backup and Shaw/JFF fight for the last spot

    2) Drafting a rookie QB to compete with JFF and learn from McCown

    3) JFF comes back determined to prove us all wrong and steps up to plate himself.....

    ....there are 3 very real possibilities.....none of which has McCown as the starter......

    So, we can wait and see what they do......or we can overreact and start crying before things even get started(oops...too late)....

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  • D BoneD D Bone

    @canton-dawg said:

    MKC called into The Bull & Fox show, and shed a little light on the McCown signing.

    She said that McCown was willing to accept a mentoring/backup role whereas Hoyer was not.

    So we signed a competitor who would rather be a backup/mentor (us), then he would a starter (Bills)? That's encouraging.

    @d-bone said:

    So we signed a competitor who would rather be a backup/mentor (us), then he would a starter (Bills)? That's encouraging.

    Better a servant in heaven than a prince in hell.

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  • I for one don't have to shit on Hoyer's memory to feel better about signing Josh.

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  • There is allot of time still for our roster to fill up

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    I for one don't have to shit on Hoyer's memory to feel better about signing Josh.

    @tour2ma said:

    I for one don't have to shit on Hoyer's memory to feel better about signing Josh.

    I call it like it is. He was pouting on the sidelines and not lifting a finger. He is the one that left that memory, not I. Had he not done it I would never have said a thing.

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  • N Naberius_Cerbera

    thenew23: "This is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard..."

    That's because you haven't 'heard' very much...

    and you're dumb as the dumbest

    case in point, your sn: "thenew23"

    the thinking you are hearing & following.... stack on QBs till something works is seriously flawed. Hundley or Petty only compounds the problem, only sets us back further. (compounds --in this case-- means makes it worse)

    there's an excellent chance to solve the problem* in 2016 (*that plagues dumb franchises for a decade long because they do things like you are speaking of doing, and would do. Do you understand the definition of insanity?

    @naberius_cerbera said:

    and your dumb as the dumbest

    If YOU'RE going to insult a person's intelligence at least use proper grammar.

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  • T TexasAg1969

    @tour2ma said:

    I for one don't have to shit on Hoyer's memory to feel better about signing Josh.

    I call it like it is. He was pouting on the sidelines and not lifting a finger. He is the one that left that memory, not I. Had he not done it I would never have said a thing.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I call it like it is. He was pouting on the sidelines and not lifting a finger. He is the one that left that memory, not I. Had he not done it I would never have said a thing.

    How was Hoyer supposed to look when JM was on the field?

    Did you ever see a sideline shot when our D was on the field that Hoyer was not on the opposite of the Shanny from Johnny?

    JM"s game could not have been lifted with a fucking crane let alone a finger.

    You call it like you are inclined to see it.

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    @texasag1969 said:

    I call it like it is. He was pouting on the sidelines and not lifting a finger. He is the one that left that memory, not I. Had he not done it I would never have said a thing.

    How was Hoyer supposed to look when JM was on the field?

    Did you ever see a sideline shot when our D was on the field that Hoyer was not on the opposite of the Shanny from Johnny?

    JM"s game could not have been lifted with a fucking crane let alone a finger.

    You call it like you are inclined to see it.

    @tour2ma said:

    How was Hoyer supposed to look when JM was on the field?

    Did you ever see a sideline shot when our D was on the field that Hoyer was not on the opposite of the Shanny from Johnny?

    You call it like you are inclined to see it.

    Great point.

    When johnny "started" I remember seeing them yuck it up on the sideline.

    Can't blame hoyer or the browns. I understand both sides. We want a qb of the future and apparently they don't think hoyer is it. Hoyer wants to start. At an impass.

  • Love the McCown signing. Pro's pro.

    Is a pig's ass pork?

  • I don't think Hoyer was ever the same after getting hurt. Smart qb, wanted to get

    bigger bucks, I wish him the best. Gee, maybe he'll still sign with the Browns - he

    should be able to beat our McCown, right?

    Whatever. McCown is far more a mentor for JF when he gets himself

    all straightened out in his life....

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @texasag1969 said:

    I call it like it is. He was pouting on the sidelines and not lifting a finger. He is the one that left that memory, not I. Had he not done it I would never have said a thing.

    How was Hoyer supposed to look when JM was on the field?

    Did you ever see a sideline shot when our D was on the field that Hoyer was not on the opposite of the Shanny from Johnny?

    JM"s game could not have been lifted with a fucking crane let alone a finger.

    You call it like you are inclined to see it.

    @tour2ma said:

    How was Hoyer supposed to look when JM was on the field?

    You call it like you are inclined to see it.

    To the fist line-more congratulatory when JF scored the running TD late in that previous game. You know kind of like how JF was doing that for him earlier in the season whenever he scored.

    To the second line-possibly so. You'd have to ask the others how they saw it if that be the case. But that is how I saw it. As to the two on either side of shanny-that's a requirement, not an option.

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  • So the QB, freshly pulled from his dream job, is supposed to congrat the kid he knows he can outplay? I'll have to watch for that as I have never seen it.

    As for "the requirement"... apparently another rules violation they let Johnny skate on with regularity.

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  • unfortunately shitting on the player who's not your own personal guy is par for the course here. I don't know that shitting on is the appropriate term for pointing out the obvious, and that is that somebody with a higher pay scale than me or any of you didn't want Brian Hoyer. Actually I'm curious as to why but reasonable enough to realize that a straight answer out of any front office is almost non existent.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @texasag1969 said:

    I call it like it is. He was pouting on the sidelines and not lifting a finger. He is the one that left that memory, not I. Had he not done it I would never have said a thing.

    How was Hoyer supposed to look when JM was on the field?

    Did you ever see a sideline shot when our D was on the field that Hoyer was not on the opposite of the Shanny from Johnny?

    JM"s game could not have been lifted with a fucking crane let alone a finger.

    You call it like you are inclined to see it.

    @tour2ma said:

    JM"s game could not have been lifted with a fucking crane let alone a finger.

    This is the part of the FO mindset I just don't comprehend, they sign McCown to mentor JFF.

    Does Johnny want to have a mentor, or someone that would "coach him up"?

    I don't see it, I think of the old saying that you can lead a horse to water when it comes to teaching Johnny anything.

    Unless, McCown was brought in to mentor a yet to be drafted QB.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • Im not so sure it's about McCown "coaching anyone up", as much as it's about having a veteran QB in the room who isn't a wedge between players,....and can act as a mentor to any young QB interested in learning....

    Does JFF "want" a mentor?....who knows......but he definitely needs one.....for both the field and life

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  • I thank Hoyer for his time with the Browns and wish him the best.

    I think the Browns are moving on a couple of tracks trying to keep all the options open. They don't want to give up on JM after 6 quarters but they also are putting things in place in such as stating one of their goals is building the defense up to an elite in the NFL and having the ability to win games on defense. Whatever QB starts will have a great offensive line to work with.

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    So the org knew Hoyer didn't want to be here after the Manziel pressure last year unless he got paid booku bucks and even then I think he'd still feel that pressure in his mind.

    They bring in someone a little younger with about the same stats and more playing experience who flat out said he doesn't give a shit about what's going on with Manziel AND will even mentor him.........

    And this is bad how? (Don't have to draft a QB and wAs rated best FA QB).

    @miktoxic said:

    So the org knew Hoyer didn't want to be here after the Manziel pressure last year unless he got paid booku bucks and even then I think he'd still feel that pressure in his mind.

    They bring in someone a little younger with about the same stats and more playing experience who flat out said he doesn't give a shit about what's going on with Manziel AND will even mentor him.........

    And this is bad how? (Don't have to draft a QB and wAs rated best FA QB).

    Actually, McCown is older than Hoyer. So assuming Brian doesn't want to be here, we traded one career backup for another career backup, similar lifetime stats. Not an upgrade in any way. Unless you want to count the mentoring role an "upgrade".

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    @miktoxic said:

    So the org knew Hoyer didn't want to be here after the Manziel pressure last year unless he got paid booku bucks and even then I think he'd still feel that pressure in his mind.

    They bring in someone a little younger with about the same stats and more playing experience who flat out said he doesn't give a shit about what's going on with Manziel AND will even mentor him.........

    And this is bad how? (Don't have to draft a QB and wAs rated best FA QB).

    Actually, McCown is older than Hoyer. So assuming Brian doesn't want to be here, we traded one career backup for another career backup, similar lifetime stats. Not an upgrade in any way. Unless you want to count the mentoring role an "upgrade".

    @hoorta said:

    Actually, we traded one career backup for another career backup, similar lifetime stats. Not an upgrade in any way. Unless you want to count the mentoring role an "upgrade".

    and the willingness to be the backup....I think that is a key element here....

    which also leads me to believe that McCown isn't plan A, which I think Hoyer wanted to be?.....

    So, yeah....same stats...not an upgrade in skill set...but, until they tell me he's the one they plan on as #1 QB, im looking at this signing as more of a Gary Danielson/Ty Detmer situation

  • Its a simple signing of a veteran since obviously the Browns and Hoyer can't come to terms. Nothing more, nothing less.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • I just hope this isn't a precursor to the Browns throwing an RG3 type trade deal towards getting Mariotta.

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