Browns sign Josh McCown to 3 year contract
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Im not so sure it's about McCown "coaching anyone up", as much as it's about having a veteran QB in the room who isn't a wedge between players,....and can act as a mentor to any young QB interested in learning....
Does JFF "want" a mentor?....who knows......but he definitely needs one.....for both the field and life
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I thank Hoyer for his time with the Browns and wish him the best.
I think the Browns are moving on a couple of tracks trying to keep all the options open. They don't want to give up on JM after 6 quarters but they also are putting things in place in such as stating one of their goals is building the defense up to an elite in the NFL and having the ability to win games on defense. Whatever QB starts will have a great offensive line to work with.
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So the org knew Hoyer didn't want to be here after the Manziel pressure last year unless he got paid booku bucks and even then I think he'd still feel that pressure in his mind.
They bring in someone a little younger with about the same stats and more playing experience who flat out said he doesn't give a shit about what's going on with Manziel AND will even mentor him.........
And this is bad how? (Don't have to draft a QB and wAs rated best FA QB).
So the org knew Hoyer didn't want to be here after the Manziel pressure last year unless he got paid booku bucks and even then I think he'd still feel that pressure in his mind.
They bring in someone a little younger with about the same stats and more playing experience who flat out said he doesn't give a shit about what's going on with Manziel AND will even mentor him.........
And this is bad how? (Don't have to draft a QB and wAs rated best FA QB).
Actually, McCown is older than Hoyer. So assuming Brian doesn't want to be here, we traded one career backup for another career backup, similar lifetime stats. Not an upgrade in any way. Unless you want to count the mentoring role an "upgrade".
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So the org knew Hoyer didn't want to be here after the Manziel pressure last year unless he got paid booku bucks and even then I think he'd still feel that pressure in his mind.
They bring in someone a little younger with about the same stats and more playing experience who flat out said he doesn't give a shit about what's going on with Manziel AND will even mentor him.........
And this is bad how? (Don't have to draft a QB and wAs rated best FA QB).
Actually, McCown is older than Hoyer. So assuming Brian doesn't want to be here, we traded one career backup for another career backup, similar lifetime stats. Not an upgrade in any way. Unless you want to count the mentoring role an "upgrade".
Actually, we traded one career backup for another career backup, similar lifetime stats. Not an upgrade in any way. Unless you want to count the mentoring role an "upgrade".
and the willingness to be the backup....I think that is a key element here....
which also leads me to believe that McCown isn't plan A, which I think Hoyer wanted to be?.....
So, yeah....same stats...not an upgrade in skill set...but, until they tell me he's the one they plan on as #1 QB, im looking at this signing as more of a Gary Danielson/Ty Detmer situation
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Its a simple signing of a veteran since obviously the Browns and Hoyer can't come to terms. Nothing more, nothing less.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I just hope this isn't a precursor to the Browns throwing an RG3 type trade deal towards getting Mariotta.
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I was thinkin about what our team would look like if we get 1st round production out of:
1- a healthy Mingo
2- a focused Gilbert, and
3- a sober Manziel
Add in 2 more 1st round picks this year and if all goes well this team could be really good.
I know that's optimistic but all the offseason moves, including signing McCown, seem to be pointed toward Manziel being our guy. I guess we're going to find out sooner than later. I'm not sold it's a great plan, but it does seem like there's at least a plan in place, something we have not seen from our FO in like 15 years...
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Watching McCown. He was quite serviceable in Chicago when he had time to throw. Of course it helps having Alshon, Marshall and Forte. But he most made good decisions and at times had some excellent ball placement. If he can step up and at least be what Hoyer was pre-Mack injury, I'm certainly not going to push the panic button.
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McCown is terrible, but apparently our only "fruitful" option. McCown's stats and winning percentage from last year are garbage and on top of this he is 35 years old. Josh Gordon isn't playing again this year. Jordan Cameron wants big money or wants out or both. Johnny Manziel is in rehab. I will always be a loyal fan, but I am not excited for this upcoming season unless we make some big moves in free agency and make logical choices in the draft, but as we all know historically, that doesn't happen for Cleveland.
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Its a simple signing of a veteran since obviously the Browns and Hoyer can't come to terms. Nothing more, nothing less.
Its a simple signing of a veteran since obviously the Browns and Hoyer can't come to terms. Nothing more, nothing less.
thank you jesus!
what is not to know about this? hoyer wants nothing to do with the manziel mess. if we would have cut manziel things might be different. the biggest gaff so far with the FO and staff was the QB 'competition' last year. everyone knows that never ends well for one player and if changes are made during the season, egos get bruised and the contention is there unless that player gets paid and all of sudden he's fine with everything.
loved hoyer, wish him well BUT he did act like a frickin brat when all is said and done. i don't know what the prob was with the hoyer/manziel relationship but whatever it was sometimes you just suck it up, be a man and do what is expected of you and try being nice about it while doing it. if you don't like it, there's the door. i guess he chose door #1.
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McCown is terrible, but apparently our only "fruitful" option. McCown's stats and winning percentage from last year are garbage and on top of this he is 35 years old. Josh Gordon isn't playing again this year. Jordan Cameron wants big money or wants out or both. Johnny Manziel is in rehab. I will always be a loyal fan, but I am not excited for this upcoming season unless we make some big moves in free agency and make logical choices in the draft, but as we all know historically, that doesn't happen for Cleveland.
McCown is terrible, but apparently our only "fruitful" option. McCown's stats and winning percentage from last year are garbage and on top of this he is 35 years old. Josh Gordon isn't playing again this year. Jordan Cameron wants big money or wants out or both. Johnny Manziel is in rehab. I will always be a loyal fan, but I am not excited for this upcoming season unless we make some big moves in free agency and make logical choices in the draft, but as we all know historically, that doesn't happen for Cleveland.
he was also on a crap team last year.
let's just see what he can do for the browns. let him play a couple of games before we burn him at the stake for christ's sake.
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McCown is terrible, but apparently our only "fruitful" option. McCown's stats and winning percentage from last year are garbage and on top of this he is 35 years old. Josh Gordon isn't playing again this year. Jordan Cameron wants big money or wants out or both. Johnny Manziel is in rehab. I will always be a loyal fan, but I am not excited for this upcoming season unless we make some big moves in free agency and make logical choices in the draft, but as we all know historically, that doesn't happen for Cleveland.
McCown is terrible, but apparently our only "fruitful" option. McCown's stats and winning percentage from last year are garbage and on top of this he is 35 years old. Josh Gordon isn't playing again this year. Jordan Cameron wants big money or wants out or both. Johnny Manziel is in rehab. I will always be a loyal fan, but I am not excited for this upcoming season unless we make some big moves in free agency and make logical choices in the draft, but as we all know historically, that doesn't happen for Cleveland.
Tampa's online not only had an incredibly bad run blocking rating, but one of the lowest snap to pressure scores of all offensive lines.
In this offense, we will still lead the NFL in rushing attempts and McCown will be asked to make smart decisions with the ball. He has shown he's capable of that with the right surrounding cast.
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Wow.
This sucks.
I thought it was a joke thread (been out of town and it didn't come through on my Browns app).
But no. It's fucking serious.
Manziel or bust is the situation we're in now. Disgusting.
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Another stupid move by an even stupider franchise...
Why dont they just let our elf mascot play QB? Im sure he'll be just as good!
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Another stupid move by an even stupider franchise...
Why dont they just let our elf mascot play QB? Im sure he'll be just as good!
Another stupid move by an even stupider franchise...
Why dont they just let our elf mascot play QB? Im sure he'll be just as good!
he played a couple games last year and now he's in rehab.
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Wow.
This sucks.
I thought it was a joke thread (been out of town and it didn't come through on my Browns app).
But no. It's fucking serious.
Manziel or bust is the situation we're in now. Disgusting.
Wow.
This sucks.
I thought it was a joke thread (been out of town and it didn't come through on my Browns app).
But no. It's fucking serious.
Manziel or bust is the situation we're in now. Disgusting.
I don't think that's the case at all. It may be, but there is still the chance that the reports about Farmer and Mariota are true.
The signing of McCown doesn't preclude us from drafting a QB this year. In fact, it kind of lends itself to the fact that we are, in fact, looking to groom a QB. Whether that QB is Manziel, Shaw or someone not currently on the roster is something we won't know until the draft.
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Wow.
This sucks.
I thought it was a joke thread (been out of town and it didn't come through on my Browns app).
But no. It's fucking serious.
Manziel or bust is the situation we're in now. Disgusting.
I don't think that's the case at all. It may be, but there is still the chance that the reports about Farmer and Mariota are true.
The signing of McCown doesn't preclude us from drafting a QB this year. In fact, it kind of lends itself to the fact that we are, in fact, looking to groom a QB. Whether that QB is Manziel, Shaw or someone not currently on the roster is something we won't know until the draft.
I don't think that's the case at all. It may be, but there is still the chance that the reports about Farmer and Mariota are true.
The signing of McCown doesn't preclude us from drafting a QB this year. In fact, it kind of lends itself to the fact that we are, in fact, looking to groom a QB. Whether that QB is Manziel, Shaw or someone not currently on the roster is something we won't know until the draft.
I fully expect something to come from way way out in left field before this is over.
WSS
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McCown will be fine. He wasn't signed to be Peyton Manning for the Browns.
Apparently, he was signed to be as good? as Hoyer on the field, but far, far more
a mentor to the other young qb's in camp.
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It's only disgusting until 7pm of April 15th, 2016!!!!!
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