Brian Hartline to visit Browns on Tues
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Well I never...
"Hartline owns and operates two convenience stores with a partner in Columbus that he works during the off season" according to wikipedia. Seems like he's in the area anyway...
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There is a radio clip somewhere of Hartline being phone interviewed by local sports radio in Miami after he signed his contract.
In the background you hear a horn blare and then they ask him whats going on. He then details that he's working the drive-thru at his business. Its pretty funny, actually.
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That makes me even more interested in getting the guy. Hard work does not seem to be a problem for him.
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SIGN Hartline and Ginn returner/slot guy. and try an lure Shorts. a
and draft the Best receiver who ever falls to 12 that you think can be your #1.
your reciever core would be
Draft pick lets say its Parker from Lousiville
#2 Shorts
#3 Hartline
#4 Hawkins
#5 Gabriel
#6 Ginn
Thats not a bad corp.
id cut Benjamin since his knee injury has not been the same. but maybe keep him on as a 7th guy returner
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I actually think if the intention is to sign Hartline and draft a receiver to play outside, there would be little point in also signing Cecil.
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Id point out Cecil is a deep threat that can play if it takes the rookie a little time to adjust to the NFL game which we have seen happen with rookie receivers,. They all dont come out blazing the field some take time. and Shorts would give them time to adjust if needed.
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Id point out Cecil is a deep threat that can play if it takes the rookie a little time to adjust to the NFL game which we have seen happen with rookie receivers,. They all dont come out blazing the field some take time. and Shorts would give them time to adjust if needed.
Id point out Cecil is a deep threat that can play if it takes the rookie a little time to adjust to the NFL game which we have seen happen with rookie receivers,. They all dont come out blazing the field some take time. and Shorts would give them time to adjust if needed.
I'm not sure why would need Shorts, especially if we're going to be drafting a wide receiver.
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Id point out Cecil is a deep threat that can play if it takes the rookie a little time to adjust to the NFL game which we have seen happen with rookie receivers,. They all dont come out blazing the field some take time. and Shorts would give them time to adjust if needed.
I'm not sure why would need Shorts, especially if we're going to be drafting a wide receiver.
I'm not sure why would need Shorts, especially if we're going to be drafting a wide receiver.
Did you read what quoted, i think i pointed out why you sign Shorts. not all rookie receivers come out Calvin Johnson. Some take time. Shorts would give the Rookie time to transition to the NFL. How many 1st round WR picks are bust cause they dont develope fast enough or ever to the game.
here are the top 10
Sylvester Morris 2000 draft 21st pick KC
Jay Soward 2000 draft 29th pick Jags
David Terrell 2001 draft 8th pick Bears
Freddie Mitchel 2001 draft 25th pick Eagles
Ashlie Lelie 2002 draft 19th pick Broncos
Charlie Johnson 2003 draft 2nd pick Lions
Reggie Williams 2004 draft 9th pick Jags
Troy Wlliamson 2005 draft 7th pick Vikings
Mike Williams 2005 draft 10th pick Lions
Ted Ginn 2007 draft 7th pick Dolphins
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I'm not sure why would need Shorts, especially if we're going to be drafting a wide receiver.
Did you read what quoted, i think i pointed out why you sign Shorts. not all rookie receivers come out Calvin Johnson. Some take time. Shorts would give the Rookie time to transition to the NFL. How many 1st round WR picks are bust cause they dont develope fast enough or ever to the game.
here are the top 10
Sylvester Morris 2000 draft 21st pick KC
Jay Soward 2000 draft 29th pick Jags
David Terrell 2001 draft 8th pick Bears
Freddie Mitchel 2001 draft 25th pick Eagles
Ashlie Lelie 2002 draft 19th pick Broncos
Charlie Johnson 2003 draft 2nd pick Lions
Reggie Williams 2004 draft 9th pick Jags
Troy Wlliamson 2005 draft 7th pick Vikings
Mike Williams 2005 draft 10th pick Lions
Ted Ginn 2007 draft 7th pick Dolphins
Did you read what quoted, i think i pointed out why you sign Shorts. not all rookie receivers come out Calvin Johnson. Some take time. Shorts would give the Rookie time to transition to the NFL. How many 1st round WR picks are bust cause they dont develope fast enough or ever to the game.
here are the top 10
Sylvester Morris 2000 draft 21st pick KC
Jay Soward 2000 draft 29th pick Jags
David Terrell 2001 draft 8th pick Bears
Freddie Mitchel 2001 draft 25th pick Eagles
Ashlie Lelie 2002 draft 19th pick Broncos
Charlie Johnson 2003 draft 2nd pick Lions
Reggie Williams 2004 draft 9th pick Jags
Troy Wlliamson 2005 draft 7th pick Vikings
Mike Williams 2005 draft 10th pick Lions
Ted Ginn 2007 draft 7th pick Dolphins
Except that Shorts is just a slightly taller, slightly slower version of both Hawkins and Gabriel. He's not a #1 WR, he's not a slot receiver, he is solely a #2, which is what we don't need.
Our roster is full of sub 6'0", shifty receivers. We need a tall red zone threat, not just another undersized, mediocre guy. We need someone to contest 50/50 balls. Right now, the fade is not in our arsenal. We need someone to target in the red zone. Shorts isn't that guy.
I like Shorts, just as I like Garcon. I like all Mt. Union guys. But he's just not needed. His skillset is one that two of our receivers already possess.
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Did you read what quoted, i think i pointed out why you sign Shorts. not all rookie receivers come out Calvin Johnson. Some take time. Shorts would give the Rookie time to transition to the NFL. How many 1st round WR picks are bust cause they dont develope fast enough or ever to the game.
here are the top 10
Sylvester Morris 2000 draft 21st pick KC
Jay Soward 2000 draft 29th pick Jags
David Terrell 2001 draft 8th pick Bears
Freddie Mitchel 2001 draft 25th pick Eagles
Ashlie Lelie 2002 draft 19th pick Broncos
Charlie Johnson 2003 draft 2nd pick Lions
Reggie Williams 2004 draft 9th pick Jags
Troy Wlliamson 2005 draft 7th pick Vikings
Mike Williams 2005 draft 10th pick Lions
Ted Ginn 2007 draft 7th pick Dolphins
Except that Shorts is just a slightly taller, slightly slower version of both Hawkins and Gabriel. He's not a #1 WR, he's not a slot receiver, he is solely a #2, which is what we don't need.
Our roster is full of sub 6'0", shifty receivers. We need a tall red zone threat, not just another undersized, mediocre guy. We need someone to contest 50/50 balls. Right now, the fade is not in our arsenal. We need someone to target in the red zone. Shorts isn't that guy.
I like Shorts, just as I like Garcon. I like all Mt. Union guys. But he's just not needed. His skillset is one that two of our receivers already possess.
Except that Shorts is just a slightly taller, slightly slower version of both Hawkins and Gabriel. He's not a #1 WR, he's not a slot receiver, he is solely a #2, which is what we don't need.
Our roster is full of sub 6'0", shifty receivers. We need a tall red zone threat, not just another undersized, mediocre guy. We need someone to contest 50/50 balls. Right now, the fade is not in our arsenal. We need someone to target in the red zone. Shorts isn't that guy.
I like Shorts, just as I like Garcon. I like all Mt. Union guys. But he's just not needed. His skillset is one that two of our receivers already possess.
Really 6"0.. Lafell is 6:2 Hartline is 6'2 and the rest of the Patriots receivers outside Gronk are barely 6ft. and there are not the fastest receiver group in the NFL either.The top 10 receivers from 2014 season only 4 are over 6ft. Johnson, Bryant, Jones, and Nelson. the rest at 6ft or shorter.
Point is tall reveivers are beginning to not be so improtant. and we need after the catch shifty guys in Cleveland weather.
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Thats why we need to snag Randall Cobb and draft another somewhere after the 1st round.
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Thats why we need to snag Randall Cobb and draft another somewhere after the 1st round.
Thats why we need to snag Randall Cobb and draft another somewhere after the 1st round.
I agree, we need Randall Tex Cobb to kick a little ass around here.
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Except that Shorts is just a slightly taller, slightly slower version of both Hawkins and Gabriel. He's not a #1 WR, he's not a slot receiver, he is solely a #2, which is what we don't need.
Our roster is full of sub 6'0", shifty receivers. We need a tall red zone threat, not just another undersized, mediocre guy. We need someone to contest 50/50 balls. Right now, the fade is not in our arsenal. We need someone to target in the red zone. Shorts isn't that guy.
I like Shorts, just as I like Garcon. I like all Mt. Union guys. But he's just not needed. His skillset is one that two of our receivers already possess.
Really 6"0.. Lafell is 6:2 Hartline is 6'2 and the rest of the Patriots receivers outside Gronk are barely 6ft. and there are not the fastest receiver group in the NFL either.The top 10 receivers from 2014 season only 4 are over 6ft. Johnson, Bryant, Jones, and Nelson. the rest at 6ft or shorter.
Point is tall reveivers are beginning to not be so improtant. and we need after the catch shifty guys in Cleveland weather.
Really 6"0.. Lafell is 6:2 Hartline is 6'2 and the rest of the Patriots receivers outside Gronk are barely 6ft. and there are not the fastest receiver group in the NFL either.The top 10 receivers from 2014 season only 4 are over 6ft. Johnson, Bryant, Jones, and Nelson. the rest at 6ft or shorter.
Point is tall reveivers are beginning to not be so improtant. and we need after the catch shifty guys in Cleveland weather.
We have two after the catch, shifty guys already. Why would we bring in a third? The point isn't that that smaller receivers are becoming more "in-flavor", the point is that smaller receivers are all we have. We need at least one bigger receiver before we need a less talented Andrew Hawkins.
Cecil Shorts can't do anything that the receivers we have can't already do.
Sure, the Patriots have sub- 6'0" receivers. They also have Gronk, who commands a #1 CB in the redzone, leaving mismatches across the field. We don't have that.
Also, you're crazy if you think tall receivers aren't important.
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Agreed Cobb would be an excellent pick up but he wil be looking for a SB contender i think. Dont see him being thrilled coming to cleveland were we cant figure out who our Qb will be from one season to the next. And that is the biggest reason we are settleing for these smaller quick rather than fast receivers. and these good route runners who are where they are suppose to be when they are suppose to be there type receivers. Qbs on our roster arent boasting the strongest arms either.
parker is 6-2
White is 6-3
beckum with off field baggage is 6-5
Stong from Ari. is 6-3.
our Big receiver would be our draft pick. my only point to Shorts is he is a veteran who can help the rookie get going.
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Except that Shorts is just a slightly taller, slightly slower version of both Hawkins and Gabriel. He's not a #1 WR, he's not a slot receiver, he is solely a #2, which is what we don't need.
Our roster is full of sub 6'0", shifty receivers. We need a tall red zone threat, not just another undersized, mediocre guy. We need someone to contest 50/50 balls. Right now, the fade is not in our arsenal. We need someone to target in the red zone. Shorts isn't that guy.
I like Shorts, just as I like Garcon. I like all Mt. Union guys. But he's just not needed. His skillset is one that two of our receivers already possess.
Really 6"0.. Lafell is 6:2 Hartline is 6'2 and the rest of the Patriots receivers outside Gronk are barely 6ft. and there are not the fastest receiver group in the NFL either.The top 10 receivers from 2014 season only 4 are over 6ft. Johnson, Bryant, Jones, and Nelson. the rest at 6ft or shorter.
Point is tall reveivers are beginning to not be so improtant. and we need after the catch shifty guys in Cleveland weather.
The top 10 receivers from 2014 season only 4 are over 6ft.
how'd evans do in tampa bay?
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Agreed Cobb would be an excellent pick up but he wil be looking for a SB contender i think. Dont see him being thrilled coming to cleveland were we cant figure out who our Qb will be from one season to the next. And that is the biggest reason we are settleing for these smaller quick rather than fast receivers. and these good route runners who are where they are suppose to be when they are suppose to be there type receivers. Qbs on our roster arent boasting the strongest arms either.
parker is 6-2
White is 6-3
beckum with off field baggage is 6-5
Stong from Ari. is 6-3.
our Big receiver would be our draft pick. my only point to Shorts is he is a veteran who can help the rookie get going.
Agreed Cobb would be an excellent pick up but he wil be looking for a SB contender i think. Dont see him being thrilled coming to cleveland were we cant figure out who our Qb will be from one season to the next. And that is the biggest reason we are settleing for these smaller quick rather than fast receivers. and these good route runners who are where they are suppose to be when they are suppose to be there type receivers. Qbs on our roster arent boasting the strongest arms either.
parker is 6-2
White is 6-3
beckum with off field baggage is 6-5
Stong from Ari. is 6-3.
our Big receiver would be our draft pick. my only point to Shorts is he is a veteran who can help the rookie get going.
what about funchess?
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The top 10 receivers from 2014 season only 4 are over 6ft.
how'd evans do in tampa bay?
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