Browns sign Josh McCown to 3 year contract
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Pretty soon it will look like a Browns wedding gown.
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This is getting complicated. Do we put McCown down again, or do we just take the line out the first one? Do we go back and make the first one L. McCown and add a new one J. McCown? Looks like we are about 4 names from the floor ... that will probably be "the guy", the guy that hits the floor.
Zombo
Zombo said:
... that will probably be "the guy", the guy that hits the floor.
Gotta be a line there about "raising the floor" or "knowing where that guy's floor is"...
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Zombo said:
... that will probably be "the guy", the guy that hits the floor.
Gotta be a line there about "raising the floor" or "knowing where that guy's floor is"...
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The team isn't looking to tank anything. Whoever holds that idea needs to stop.
It's clear to me the brass is 100% behind Johnny as their QB. Nobody knows how that is going to end up, but I agree with the decision. We have to let that play out. It would be stupid not to at this point.
McCown gives us a option if JM fails this year and have to seek a QB next draft. With that in mind, I could see us trading down again this year to secure more picks in the next draft. It is going to be harder to do. But if the right player falls, we might get some offers for our pick.
I guess we'll see in a month or two.
I guess we'll see in a month or two.
Yep. Well, probably more like 6-7, but point taken.
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This is getting complicated. Do we put McCown down again, or do we just take the line out the first one? Do we go back and make the first one L. McCown and add a new one J. McCown? Looks like we are about 4 names from the floor ... that will probably be "the guy", the guy that hits the floor.
Zombo
Zombo said:
This is getting complicated. Do we put McCown down again, or do we just take the line out the first one? Do we go back and make the first one L. McCown and add a new one J. McCown? Looks like we are about 4 names from the floor ... that will probably be "the guy", the guy that hits the floor.
Zombo
The amazing thing is how well all those guys performed elsewhere once they left here. ggggg----
People keep saying that the Browns kill QBs. I disagree. Half of these guys were DOA when they got here, and the other half were non viable fetuses who proved to be defective from birth.....including when they went elsewhere.
Sorry, we don't kill QBs. They kill us.
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Some interesting remarks by McCown on his relationship with JM
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As a fan this was a seriously disheartening move that requires further explaination as to why they brought in McCown over Hoyer, we all know hoyer was not the answer but he had the teams respect and proved he could win some games but now we are stuck with a consummate loser and 2 less than impressive journeymen..
It may be hard to stomach watching any games this year especially with the new uniforms likely featuring loser shit brown pants and an over the hill QB that has never been a winner..
This thread has explained over and over again why this FA acquisition makes sense and why they selected JM over BH. We all have opinions on which is the better QB but as neither of them are "the answer", we locked-up one of them to fill a need ( and picked the one that would maintain a positive influence in the locker-room no matter what role he plays in the future.
With Hoyer in FA, Manziel in Rehab, and Shaw perhaps not having the tools, we didn't have a QB that could be counted on to start. Now we do. So we go into the FA/draft with the following philosophy: 3 QB's (likely) 1) A veteran back up who can start if necessary - McCowan check. A high risk/reward QB that could be "the answer", probably won't be, needs a lot of coaching and prep - Manziel check. 3) Someone (in either FA or the Draft or through Trade) that the Browns really think can be the answer. #1 holds down the fort while #2 is evaluated in the next 9 months and #3 is a continual search (for a franchise QB as it is for most teams in this league).
This thread has explained over and over again why this FA acquisition makes sense and why they selected JM over BH. We all have opinions on which is the better QB but as neither of them are "the answer", we locked-up one of them to fill a need ( and picked the one that would maintain a positive influence in the locker-room no matter what role he plays in the future.
With Hoyer in FA, Manziel in Rehab, and Shaw perhaps not having the tools, we didn't have a QB that could be counted on to start. Now we do. So we go into the FA/draft with the following philosophy: 3 QB's (likely) 1) A veteran back up who can start if necessary - McCowan check. A high risk/reward QB that could be "the answer", probably won't be, needs a lot of coaching and prep - Manziel check. 3) Someone (in either FA or the Draft or through Trade) that the Browns really think can be the answer. #1 holds down the fort while #2 is evaluated in the next 9 months and #3 is a continual search (for a franchise QB as it is for most teams in this league).
..another old fart at the helm...just what we need...here we are, 17 yrs later and no friggin franchise qb...we are still plugging old farts in...ala delhomme...see where that got us...wow...at least we could have gone after vinny testaverde...heheheheeeeeee
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Mccown is no good but what are the Browns other options?
They didn't commit a ton of money and the cap hit is below your typical starting QB. They will probably take a project in the 2nd or 3rd round and we can hope they guess right and in 2016 or 2017 they have their guy.
The tough thing will be watching Mccown as the starter next season and knowing that Manziel was a wasted first round pick.
Mccown is no good but what are the Browns other options?
They didn't commit a ton of money and the cap hit is below your typical starting QB. They will probably take a project in the 2nd or 3rd round and we can hope they guess right and in 2016 or 2017 they have their guy.
The tough thing will be watching Mccown as the starter next season and knowing that Manziel was a wasted first round pick.
mandweeb will be out of football soon
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Mccown is no good but what are the Browns other options?
They didn't commit a ton of money and the cap hit is below your typical starting QB. They will probably take a project in the 2nd or 3rd round and we can hope they guess right and in 2016 or 2017 they have their guy.
The tough thing will be watching Mccown as the starter next season and knowing that Manziel was a wasted first round pick.
Mccown is no good but what are the Browns other options?
They didn't commit a ton of money and the cap hit is below your typical starting QB. They will probably take a project in the 2nd or 3rd round and we can hope they guess right and in 2016 or 2017 they have their guy.
The tough thing will be watching Mccown as the starter next season and knowing that Manziel was a wasted first round pick.
heh heh heh, wait till mccown starts getting text messages from our wonderful gm...heh heh heh
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Watching McCown. He was quite serviceable in Chicago when he had time to throw. Of course it helps having Alshon, Marshall and Forte. But he most made good decisions and at times had some excellent ball placement. If he can step up and at least be what Hoyer was pre-Mack injury, I'm certainly not going to push the panic button.
Watching McCown. He was quite serviceable in Chicago when he had time to throw. Of course it helps having Alshon, Marshall and Forte. But he most made good decisions and at times had some excellent ball placement. If he can step up and at least be what Hoyer was pre-Mack injury, I'm certainly not going to push the panic button.
mccown stinks...face it....but what else are we to do...we are in a serious hole once again....
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Im not so sure it's about McCown "coaching anyone up", as much as it's about having a veteran QB in the room who isn't a wedge between players,....and can act as a mentor to any young QB interested in learning....
Does JFF "want" a mentor?....who knows......but he definitely needs one.....for both the field and life
Im not so sure it's about McCown "coaching anyone up", as much as it's about having a veteran QB in the room who isn't a wedge between players,....and can act as a mentor to any young QB interested in learning....
Does JFF "want" a mentor?....who knows......but he definitely needs one.....for both the field and life
i don't know about you, but you gotta love what the bills are doing...see, there is the difference between a screwed up organization and a good organization....
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Im not so sure it's about McCown "coaching anyone up", as much as it's about having a veteran QB in the room who isn't a wedge between players,....and can act as a mentor to any young QB interested in learning....
Does JFF "want" a mentor?....who knows......but he definitely needs one.....for both the field and life
i don't know about you, but you gotta love what the bills are doing...see, there is the difference between a screwed up organization and a good organization....
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Im not so sure it's about McCown "coaching anyone up", as much as it's about having a veteran QB in the room who isn't a wedge between players,....and can act as a mentor to any young QB interested in learning....
Does JFF "want" a mentor?....who knows......but he definitely needs one.....for both the field and life
i don't know about you, but you gotta love what the bills are doing...see, there is the difference between a screwed up organization and a good organization....
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Some interesting remarks by McCown on his relationship with JM
Really, mik... I was about to point out the same thing.
Some interesting remarks by McCown on his relationship with JM
Really good read for a lot more than the mentoring... more so when you realize you've just read an MKC article.
McCown comes across as a mature, thoughtful, serene guy...
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Not opposed to this and actually kinda like it. Resigning Hoyer gets us no where in our pursuit to find the franchise QB. McCown gives us comfort that our veteran QB will mentor and gladly serve the backup role when we get our signal caller. Plus I think he's is more accurate than Hoyer.
Jack
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Im not so sure it's about McCown "coaching anyone up", as much as it's about having a veteran QB in the room who isn't a wedge between players,....and can act as a mentor to any young QB interested in learning....
Does JFF "want" a mentor?....who knows......but he definitely needs one.....for both the field and life
i don't know about you, but you gotta love what the bills are doing...see, there is the difference between a screwed up organization and a good organization....
i don't know about you, but you gotta love what the bills are doing...see, there is the difference between a screwed up organization and a good organization....
Yeah throwing away a first round pick to draft a wr was genius! Then they followed that up by trading away one of the best young linebackers in the league to take on an overpaid RB whose best days are behind him.
The Super Bowl champion is determined by jersey sales, right?
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and they gave away more draft picks for cassell?
c'mon man.
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Really, mik... I was about to point out the same thing.
Some interesting remarks by McCown on his relationship with JM
Really good read for a lot more than the mentoring... more so when you realize you've just read an MKC article.
McCown comes across as a mature, thoughtful, serene guy...
Really, mik... I was about to point out the same thing.
Really good read for a lot more than the mentoring... more so when you realize you've just read an MKC article.
McCown comes across as a mature, thoughtful, serene guy...
Here is even a better article - Bill Polian's take on JM. It ain't over till it's over.
JM seems to be taking his rehab seriously. Not one tweet sent by him on his twitter account since before he entered rehab. That's a good sign IMHO.
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