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  • dj_illness D
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    Cutler is a solid QB. Top....10, easily...if not top 5 or 6 in the league.

    i loved watching Denver's offense play. It was like back in the day... Qb's like Marino, Elway, etc....

    i think Cutler wins an SB someday. (maybe not in Denver....)

    Denver's defense was amazingly, like, "i literally cannot believe they don't know how to tackle" horrible.

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      Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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      @inspecta said:

      No we're not.

      A little advice Kosar, this guy isn't a Browns fan, he's a Derek Anderson fan. The minute Anderson is sent to another team Lumbergh will be right there cheering for that team. He has no loyalty to Cleveland whatsoever, he's from the Oregon trail.

      He didn't sound gay? lol

      I heard they are teaching DA to throw underhand on any passes 10 yards or less.

      Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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        Cutler is a solid QB. Top....10, easily...if not top 5 or 6 in the league.

        i loved watching Denver's offense play. It was like back in the day... Qb's like Marino, Elway, etc....

        i think Cutler wins an SB someday. (maybe not in Denver....)

        Denver's defense was amazingly, like, "i literally cannot believe they don't know how to tackle" horrible.

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        Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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        @dj_illness said:

        Denver's defense was amazingly, like, "i literally cannot believe they don't know how to tackle" horrible.

        So was the Browns...

        Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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          @dj_illness said:

          Denver's defense was amazingly, like, "i literally cannot believe they don't know how to tackle" horrible.

          So was the Browns...

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          D dj_illness wrote on last edited by
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          @kosar_for_president said:

          So was the Browns...

          true.

          but we didn't have Cutler's offense. 😕

          and I got to the Giants game, which actually showed some good things on D.

          good point though....not to bring up any skills or lack of skills of certain QB's...... but what was it, 3, 4 games where we squandered a 10+ point lead?

          maybe we should have a competition with Denver's D for........uh.... not being good.

          point is: Cutler is a really good QB.

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            @kosar_for_president said:

            So was the Browns...

            true.

            but we didn't have Cutler's offense. 😕

            and I got to the Giants game, which actually showed some good things on D.

            good point though....not to bring up any skills or lack of skills of certain QB's...... but what was it, 3, 4 games where we squandered a 10+ point lead?

            maybe we should have a competition with Denver's D for........uh.... not being good.

            point is: Cutler is a really good QB.

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            Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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            @dj_illness said:

            point is: Cutler is a really good QB.

            Getting the dude would be one less thing we have to worry about. If we get an QB like that, ManKok can focus on defense and let Cutler slang to help us win some games. Hey, and you never know, maybe a new QB will help Braylon? I've seen that happen before. If I remember right Burris dropped a league high some years back with the Squeelers, after he moved to New York, he stopped dropping balls. I might be remembering that right?

            Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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              GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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              Rogers and BQ for cutler?

              No way maybe rogers or bq for cutler but not both that would be well below a premium fire sale trade..its a lummy dream but isnt going to happen unless mankok wants to be beheaded and buried in the jets and ravens stadiums respectively by the bq fags...hehehehehe 😉

              I should point out im a bq fag and a DA fag in other words im a browns fag and can live with mankoks decisions about either or both qbs and rogers mankok is still in honeymoon mode but should they trade bq for cutler and bq take the rag tag FA broncos to the playoffs while we fail with cutler i think its safe to say mankoks presence in municiple stadium would be unbearable and full of mankok blows they gotta go banners followed by a lynching mob for lerner to sell the team...im not big on jay cutler to be honest and wouldnt trade sean jones for him..

              We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                Rogers and BQ for cutler?

                No way maybe rogers or bq for cutler but not both that would be well below a premium fire sale trade..its a lummy dream but isnt going to happen unless mankok wants to be beheaded and buried in the jets and ravens stadiums respectively by the bq fags...hehehehehe 😉

                I should point out im a bq fag and a DA fag in other words im a browns fag and can live with mankoks decisions about either or both qbs and rogers mankok is still in honeymoon mode but should they trade bq for cutler and bq take the rag tag FA broncos to the playoffs while we fail with cutler i think its safe to say mankoks presence in municiple stadium would be unbearable and full of mankok blows they gotta go banners followed by a lynching mob for lerner to sell the team...im not big on jay cutler to be honest and wouldnt trade sean jones for him..

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                Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                @gips said:

                Rogers and BQ for cutler?

                No way maybe rogers or bq for cutler but not both that would be well below a premium fire sale trade..its a lummy dream but isnt going to happen unless mankok wants to be beheaded and buried in the jets and ravens stadiums respectively by the bq fags...hehehehehe 😉

                I think they would have to throw in a 3rd for this.

                They are signing players that are all 40 years old anyways, why not gamble their future for an 8-8 team in 09' for some draft picks. Who are we to say how dumb the donkey's are.

                Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                  Zombo said:

                  Am I the only guy that doesn't like Cutler?

                  Great natural tools ... but he seems like an ass who teammates have a hard time rallying around.

                  Not a winner. Had a huge lead in division last year and they folded.

                  The guy doesn't say "Super Bowl" to me.

                  I'd rather develop Quinn, I think he is special.

                  Zombo

                  He looks like a fu@king hobbit.....

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                    Rooster DickR Rooster Dick wrote on last edited by
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                    They want to get rid of Marshall too... why not throw him in the deal with Braylon?

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                      Zombo said:

                      Am I the only guy that doesn't like Cutler?

                      Great natural tools ... but he seems like an ass who teammates have a hard time rallying around.

                      Not a winner. Had a huge lead in division last year and they folded.

                      The guy doesn't say "Super Bowl" to me.

                      I'd rather develop Quinn, I think he is special.

                      Zombo

                      He looks like a fu@king hobbit.....

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                      GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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                      AdaM said:

                      He looks like a fu@king hobbit.....

                      I dont like cutler he is not that good he is extremly over-rated and yeah he looks like a hobbit...😉

                      A trip to the playoffs next year could change my mind though..😉

                      We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                        Rooster DickR Rooster Dick wrote on last edited by
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                        This trade will not, and should not happen. Give Quinn a chance.

                        Hey Mangina -- I don't think you were brought here to completely destroy our team. We have one good defensive player, so please do not trade him.

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                          Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                          Zombo said:

                          Am I the only guy that doesn't like Cutler?

                          Great natural tools ... but he seems like an ass who teammates have a hard time rallying around.

                          Not a winner. Had a huge lead in division last year and they folded.

                          The guy doesn't say "Super Bowl" to me.

                          I'd rather develop Quinn, I think he is special.

                          Zombo

                          I completely disagree. THEIR defense gave up 448 POINTS!. And when they "folded" and lost their last 3 games the Donkey's gave up 112 points! They gave up 51 points to the Chargers!

                          Don't make me pull Quinn and DA's stats compared to Cutler. Cutler did it with a WAY worse defense. And yes his team finished 8-8 but with a defense giving up 448 points (50 less then the Lions) but with Quinn and DA as the starters and the Browns giving up 100 less points we finished 4-12, what does that tell you?

                          God I love it when I am right....

                          Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                            OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by
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                            Zombo said:

                            Am I the only guy that doesn't like Cutler?

                            Great natural tools ... but he seems like an ass who teammates have a hard time rallying around.

                            Not a winner. Had a huge lead in division last year and they folded.

                            The guy doesn't say "Super Bowl" to me.

                            I'd rather develop Quinn, I think he is special.

                            Zombo

                            Bingo.

                            This all still smells like a smoke screen to make other teams think the Browns are considering sticking with DA.

                            Not worried at all (but then again I laughed at those whe said Modell would move the Browns).

                            It would be a sure-fire way for Kokgini to piss off fans. Makes no sense. Come in to town, and trade away the first round draft pick from Ohio when the guy ahead of him is a proven turnover machine.

                            Ain't gonna happen.

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                              This trade will not, and should not happen. Give Quinn a chance.

                              Hey Mangina -- I don't think you were brought here to completely destroy our team. We have one good defensive player, so please do not trade him.

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                              GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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                              Chickenwang said:

                              This trade will not, and should not happen. Give Quinn a chance.

                              Hey Mangina -- I don't think you were brought here to completely destroy our team. We have one good defensive player, so please do not trade him.

                              Im not really buying this rumor but our team was destroyed before mankok took it over it would be hard to make it any worse then it already is even if mankok wholesales the entire playerbase for picks...but i dont see any sense in why we would trade a potential franchise qb and our defensive anchor for a hobbit that is also damaged goods..

                              We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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                                This doesn't hold water....especially since Rogers alone would get a 1st round pick...so I don't see it.

                                Sounds like Rogers for Cutler and Quinn for a 3rd to me. No wonder you don't "see it".

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                                ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                                @lumbergh said:

                                Sounds like Rogers for Cutler and Quinn for a 3rd to me. No wonder you don't "see it".

                                You can't look at it that way Lum.....you have to look at the package as a whole.

                                Cutler is worth more than Rogers, and Quinn is worth more than a 3rd.

                                You balance it out....Rogers and Quinn for Cutler and a 3rd is a pretty balanced trade.

                                I doubt it happens, but from a value and "doability" standpoint....it could work.

                                Whoever came up with this at least put some thought behind it before posting.

                                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                  Zombo said:

                                  Am I the only guy that doesn't like Cutler?

                                  Great natural tools ... but he seems like an ass who teammates have a hard time rallying around.

                                  Not a winner. Had a huge lead in division last year and they folded.

                                  The guy doesn't say "Super Bowl" to me.

                                  I'd rather develop Quinn, I think he is special.

                                  Zombo

                                  Bingo.

                                  This all still smells like a smoke screen to make other teams think the Browns are considering sticking with DA.

                                  Not worried at all (but then again I laughed at those whe said Modell would move the Browns).

                                  It would be a sure-fire way for Kokgini to piss off fans. Makes no sense. Come in to town, and trade away the first round draft pick from Ohio when the guy ahead of him is a proven turnover machine.

                                  Ain't gonna happen.

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                                  Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                                  @oconrecon said:

                                  Ain't gonna happen.

                                  I agree the trade seems very unlikely, but I would not condone it if it happened.

                                  Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                                    Zombo said:

                                    Am I the only guy that doesn't like Cutler?

                                    Great natural tools ... but he seems like an ass who teammates have a hard time rallying around.

                                    Not a winner. Had a huge lead in division last year and they folded.

                                    The guy doesn't say "Super Bowl" to me.

                                    I'd rather develop Quinn, I think he is special.

                                    Zombo

                                    I completely disagree. THEIR defense gave up 448 POINTS!. And when they "folded" and lost their last 3 games the Donkey's gave up 112 points! They gave up 51 points to the Chargers!

                                    Don't make me pull Quinn and DA's stats compared to Cutler. Cutler did it with a WAY worse defense. And yes his team finished 8-8 but with a defense giving up 448 points (50 less then the Lions) but with Quinn and DA as the starters and the Browns giving up 100 less points we finished 4-12, what does that tell you?

                                    God I love it when I am right....

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                                    OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by
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                                    @kosar_for_president said:

                                    Don't make me pull Quinn and DA's stats compared to Cutler....

                                    You can only pull up DA and Cutler. Quinn's stats don't have enough numbers to be significant. Basic math. And what numbers he does have only include 5 healthy quarters and 4 of them were on 2 days of preperation.

                                    One thing is for sure. None of us know what will come of Quinn. Ok a second thing we know, his stats mean nothing.

                                    By the way, did anyone notice Graffanino is batting .500 and Garko is batting .143 so far this spring? Meaningless.

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                                      Zombo said:

                                      Am I the only guy that doesn't like Cutler?

                                      Great natural tools ... but he seems like an ass who teammates have a hard time rallying around.

                                      Not a winner. Had a huge lead in division last year and they folded.

                                      The guy doesn't say "Super Bowl" to me.

                                      I'd rather develop Quinn, I think he is special.

                                      Zombo

                                      Bingo.

                                      This all still smells like a smoke screen to make other teams think the Browns are considering sticking with DA.

                                      Not worried at all (but then again I laughed at those whe said Modell would move the Browns).

                                      It would be a sure-fire way for Kokgini to piss off fans. Makes no sense. Come in to town, and trade away the first round draft pick from Ohio when the guy ahead of him is a proven turnover machine.

                                      Ain't gonna happen.

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                                      Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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                                      @oconrecon said:

                                      It would be a sure-fire way for Kokgini to piss off fans. Makes no sense. Come in to town, and trade away the first round draft pick from Ohio when the guy ahead of him is a proven turnover machine.

                                      Read my post above. When your 30 points down, of course you are going to throw picks. How many did DA and Quinn have this year when only being 6-10 points down? I know there are many factors here, but read my post above.

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                                        The truth of the matter according to Peter King of SI is the fact that Cutler asked to be traded once his QB coach left (Jeremy Bates). Once guys become disgruntled they form a cancer (TO, Ocho Cinco, LJ).

                                        In this case you have Cutler and Rogers. I say you do the deal....but for more.

                                        If it's true Denver was going to send the #12 pick and a 3rd round for Cassel what makes you think we couldn't get their #12 pick for Quinn and Rogers? If that's the case.....you take the steal I mean deal.

                                        Mike

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                                          @kosar_for_president said:

                                          Don't make me pull Quinn and DA's stats compared to Cutler....

                                          You can only pull up DA and Cutler. Quinn's stats don't have enough numbers to be significant. Basic math. And what numbers he does have only include 5 healthy quarters and 4 of them were on 2 days of preperation.

                                          One thing is for sure. None of us know what will come of Quinn. Ok a second thing we know, his stats mean nothing.

                                          By the way, did anyone notice Graffanino is batting .500 and Garko is batting .143 so far this spring? Meaningless.

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                                          Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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                                          @oconrecon said:

                                          You can only pull up DA and Cutler. Quinn's stats don't have enough numbers to be significant. Basic math. And what numbers he does have only include 5 healthy quarters and 4 of them were on 2 days of preperation.

                                          One thing is for sure. None of us know what will come of Quinn. Ok a second thing we know, his stats mean nothing.

                                          By the way, did anyone notice Graffanino is batting .500 and Garko is batting .143 so far this spring? Meaningless.

                                          The one stat that matters, WINS. And Cutler had more wins with a WAY Worse defense and like 8 running backs changing out all season. 4 more wins to be exact.

                                          Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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