Jonathan Paul Manziel
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It has to take a ton of courage to admit ya need help,
and go into rehab. That can't be a piece of cake.
The media needs to stop it for once, and tasteless jokes
just aren't right about it.
Now, if he was some rock or movie star who goes into rehab every two years or so...
it would be a joke maybe...
But ridiculing the kid for it is low class. So many people's lives have been damaged in one
way or another, by additictions. I hope he gets his life back, and goes for it. And guys like McCown
will be a great help.
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It has to take a ton of courage to admit ya need help,
and go into rehab. That can't be a piece of cake.
The media needs to stop it for once, and tasteless jokes
just aren't right about it.
Now, if he was some rock or movie star who goes into rehab every two years or so...
it would be a joke maybe...
But ridiculing the kid for it is low class. So many people's lives have been damaged in one
way or another, by additictions. I hope he gets his life back, and goes for it. And guys like McCown
will be a great help.
It has to take a ton of courage to admit ya need help,
and go into rehab. That can't be a piece of cake.
The media needs to stop it for once, and tasteless jokes
just aren't right about it.
Now, if he was some rock or movie star who goes into rehab every two years or so...
it would be a joke maybe...
But ridiculing the kid for it is low class. So many people's lives have been damaged in one
way or another, by additictions. I hope he gets his life back, and goes for it. And guys like McCown
will be a great help.
Mike (Cal),
You & I differ on some things but not on this.
GREAT statement!
Mike
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i hope no one thinks i was joking about the kid trying to help himself.......that's all well and good. the problem is we don't know what type of facility this is and what all he is allowed to do. maybe one of the counselors on here could tell us if he'd be allowed to meet with coaches/trainers etc. i thought an in-house program was like lock down so...........
as a browns fan i want to know when do THEY start thinking about themselves? they are a biz after all. let's say manziel is in rehab until May or June, do you really think he's going to be in tip top NFL caliber condition? so if you say no, probably not, then these 'rumors' of him taking the year off might not just be rumors but someone thinking down the road about if this guy will contribute to the browns again this year (lol). would you come back and compete to be on the roster if you haven't worked out or picked up the playbook in 6 months? he prob wouldn't be able to beat out shaw. so for a first round pick he'd have played 1.5 games in 2 years (if he wants to take a year off and they allow him to do it). is that a sound return on your investment?
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I wouldn't believe the year off thing. And the Browns said there first concern is him completing treatment. If he comes back fine, if not fine also. Life is more important than football.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Why does he DESERVE privacy?
Johnny self-promoted his whole life. That's what he's about. He wants to be in the media and he wants attention. He's all about Hollywood.
Can't have it both ways.
Now does he deserve support, maybe another chance, help? Sure. Just as everyone.
But when you beg for attention, you get it when you want it and when you don't.
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I wouldn't believe the year off thing. And the Browns said there first concern is him completing treatment. If he comes back fine, if not fine also. Life is more important than football.
Life is more important than football.
yessir.
i'm just wondering now how this will affect the browns approach to the upcoming draft. do they make decisions based upon what they think manziel might and might not be able to do or just disregard him all together and go about it as though mccown will be the starter (as a lot of us have thought since the signing) and manziel won't be there?
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Mike (Cal),
You & I differ on some things but not on this.
GREAT statement!
Mike
**********************************Well, we wouldn't differ if you'd just stop being wrong about stuff.
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i hope no one thinks i was joking about the kid trying to help himself. Mik
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No, Mik, I wasn't taking it that way.
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Life is more important than football.
yessir.
i'm just wondering now how this will affect the browns approach to the upcoming draft. do they make decisions based upon what they think manziel might and might not be able to do or just disregard him all together and go about it as though mccown will be the starter (as a lot of us have thought since the signing) and manziel won't be there?
yessir.
i'm just wondering now how this will affect the browns approach to the upcoming draft. do they make decisions based upon what they think manziel might and might not be able to do or just disregard him all together and go about it as though mccown will be the starter (as a lot of us have thought since the signing) and manziel won't be there?
I suspect that the Browns know already exactly what to expect. As an employer they do have that right and I am sure JM is allowing them to talk to the rehab people about overall expected length of the treatment plan without going into personal details about exactly what the plan is. That part does not worry me at all.
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Why does he DESERVE privacy?
Johnny self-promoted his whole life. That's what he's about. He wants to be in the media and he wants attention. He's all about Hollywood.
Can't have it both ways.
Now does he deserve support, maybe another chance, help? Sure. Just as everyone.
But when you beg for attention, you get it when you want it and when you don't.
The Soldier said:
Why does he DESERVE privacy?
Johnny self-promoted his whole life. That's what he's about. He wants to be in the media and he wants attention. He's all about Hollywood.
Can't have it both ways.
Now does he deserve support, maybe another chance, help? Sure. Just as everyone.
But when you beg for attention, you get it when you want it and when you don't.
And why do you deserve to pry?
WSS
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It has to take a ton of courage to admit ya need help,
and go into rehab. That can't be a piece of cake.
The media needs to stop it for once, and tasteless jokes
just aren't right about it.
Now, if he was some rock or movie star who goes into rehab every two years or so...
it would be a joke maybe...
But ridiculing the kid for it is low class. So many people's lives have been damaged in one
way or another, by additictions. I hope he gets his life back, and goes for it. And guys like McCown
will be a great help.
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No, sorry, I just meant that the rock star or movie star would think
it was a joke, and never took it seriously.
Not talking about a legit relapse.
example:
- www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/993143 CachedLindsay Lohan is adamant that ... lack thereof — and why she thinks rehab is a joke. ... The first few times I was court-ordered to rehab, it was like a joke, ...
- Lindsay Lohan says she's not a big drinker, ... Lindsay Lohan: Rehab is a Joke, ... "I don’tthink I need to be on lockdown for three months.
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Why does he DESERVE privacy?
Johnny self-promoted his whole life. That's what he's about. He wants to be in the media and he wants attention. He's all about Hollywood.
Can't have it both ways.
Now does he deserve support, maybe another chance, help? Sure. Just as everyone.
But when you beg for attention, you get it when you want it and when you don't.
The Soldier said:
Why does he DESERVE privacy?
Johnny self-promoted his whole life. That's what he's about. He wants to be in the media and he wants attention. He's all about Hollywood.
Can't have it both ways.
Now does he deserve support, maybe another chance, help? Sure. Just as everyone.
But when you beg for attention, you get it when you want it and when you don't.
I see both sides but I tend to lean on this one.
Manziel is one of the biggest self-promoters in sports, so you are going to have to take the good with the bad.
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The Soldier said:
Why does he DESERVE privacy?
Johnny self-promoted his whole life. That's what he's about. He wants to be in the media and he wants attention. He's all about Hollywood.
Can't have it both ways.
Now does he deserve support, maybe another chance, help? Sure. Just as everyone.
But when you beg for attention, you get it when you want it and when you don't.
I see both sides but I tend to lean on this one.
Manziel is one of the biggest self-promoters in sports, so you are going to have to take the good with the bad.
Manziel WAS one of the biggest self-promoters in sports
fixed it for ya.
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Manziel WAS one of the biggest self-promoters in sports
fixed it for ya.
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Here's one from The Factory... it involves five teams.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Manziel left rehab to go on trip
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Hoping it's a vacation
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Here's one from The Factory... it involves five teams.
Here's one from The Factory... it involves five teams.
thats a wow.....too much going on for me to absorb it all.....
though I did note they also had the Browns trading up to grab Cooper.....which is an idea that I HATE.....
otherwise....interestink
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