2015 Browns Board Draft

darren15

The TE from Minnesota Max Williams ....or is it too early ?

ConnerLangford

@darren15 said:
The TE from Minnesota Max Williams ....or is it too early ?

Too early, maybe at 19

The Gipper

darren15

Someone send him a PM

Flyin J

Almost have to go Oline here. The real question is, which one?

darren15

Maybe he is waiting to see if we sign Bowe before going for WR Parker ?

The Gipper

@darren15 said:
Maybe he is waiting to see if we sign Bowe before going for WR Parker ?

While that may have an affect on what the Browns actually do....I don't think it should affect what a Mock drafter should do. Even if Bowe signs, the Browns may need a top notch WR. Bowe's signing would just replace the likes of Miles Austin.

miktoxic

malcolm brown (in the real world a trade back might be appropriate).

thenew23

@the-gipper said:

Does Randy Stark signing affect your choice? Plays DT, same as Malcom Brown

We got Tramon Williams, so that probably take DB out of the picture.

No, because Stark is a 3-4 DE, not a NT

thenew23

I see the Browns' biggest needs as:

1 - QB

2 - NT

3 - WR (whether we sign Bowe or not)

4 - Pass rusher

Since the top 2 QBs, the top 4 pass-rushers, the top 2 WRs, and the top NT are gone... I guess I have to go with...

miktoxic

...............................................lol.

The Gipper

@thenew23 said:

No, because Stark is a 3-4 DE, not a NT

He is listed as a DT everywhere I have searched.

Starks signing definitely means they probably will not bring back Rubin.

Saints/Zombo are on the clock.

thenew23

@the-gipper said:

He is listed as a DT everywhere I have searched.

Starks signing definitely means they probably will not bring back Rubin

Most 4-3 DTs convert to 3-4 DEs unless they are over, or around 320lbs

Which is why the Browns will select...

The Gipper

@thenew23 said:

I see the Browns' biggest needs as:

1 - QB

2 - NT

3 - WR (whether we sign Bowe or not)

4 - Pass rusher

Since the top 2 QBs, the top 4 pass-rushers, the top 2 WRs, and the top NT are gone... I guess I have to go with...

Starks listed as DT: http://www.nfl.com/player/randystarks/2505998/profile

thenew23

@the-gipper said:
Starks listed as DT: http://www.nfl.com/player/randystarks/2505998/profile

As was Desmond Bryant when we signed him from Oakland, but that's because he played DT in their 4-3 defense... Like I said, unless they are over 320lbs they will convert to DEs in a 3-4 scheme...

http://www.nfl.com/player/desmondbryant/2507568/profile

The Gipper

@thenew23 said:

Most 4-3 DTs convert to 3-4 DEs unless they are over, or around 320lbs

Which is why the Browns will select...

Honestly, I don't believe that a 3-4 DE should even be described as a Defensive End. A Defensive End should only be a guy on the end in a 4-3 formation. You should have say a "Defensive Guard"....as they are really a hybrid sort of position.

darren15

Who did the browns pick ?

Saints now on clock ?

thenew23

Anyway...

With the 12th pick, the Cleveland Browns select Malcom Brown, DT, Texas

The Gipper

@thenew23 said:

Anyway...

With the 12th pick, the Cleveland Browns select Malcom Brown, DT, Texas

Are you sure he won't be a DE in the 3-4?

What is the scouting report on his pass rushing skills? (While important....shoring up the middle against the run is very important to this team....which could make this a good pick).

thenew23

@the-gipper said:

Are you sure he won't be a DE in the 3-4?

What is the scouting report on his pass rushing skills? (While important....shoring up the middle against the run is very important to this team....which could make this a good pick).

He can take on double-teams and jam up the middle to assist in the run game, but he is best as a pass-rushing 3-tech. If we draft this guy, he would immediately be our starting NT, but would also rotate around our 3-man front in various formations so we can utilize his pass-rush abilities. Having him, Starks, A.Bryant and/or D.Bryant on passing downs would force QBs to make quick decisions next year, as they all are above-average pass-rushers...