Browns on Hard Knocks
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It sounds degrading. Roger Goodell, who makes far too much money, is the worst bucket of manure to ever represent the NFL. Imagine, forcing teams to admit they are "losers" in front of the whole world. FORCING teams to play In London, Thursday Night Football, and a TV show that can only be another distraction.
I sure would like to know what Roger "told" Jameis Winston on his visit to New York last week. Someone should force Roger to do Dancing With The Stars and see how he like to be humiliated.
The irrational Goodell hate cracks me up.
The irrational Goodell hate cracks me up.
No kidding........... Poor, mistreated NFL teams. My heart bleeds.
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My apologies, Tour2Ma. Seemed relevant. I will take it down if it bothers you. Given that it was the only topic discussed on all of the talk shows in Cleveland today, at least when I had the radio on, I thought some simple data would be useful.
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Not worth the extra $$ IMHO. To each their own. Crap, my Directv bill is already on the high side of $100, (way more than that when I pay the six month extortion fee for Sunday Ticket) and the only "premium" I normally have is the $12 Fox Sports package. If I occasionally want to watch a movie, PPV is a cheaper option in my case.
I have read on another site that if you call directv and threaten to cancel service, they will offer Sunday ticket for free. Subscribers do this every year. I use the library for free dvd movies.
I have read on another site that if you call directv and threaten to cancel service, they will offer Sunday ticket for free. Subscribers do this every year. I use the library for free dvd movies.
Well aware of that. Yeah- you can probably pull that stunt- once- after your commitment is up. They do keep track. I did manage to get $60 off this past year, for being a "longtime loyal customer." er sucker.
It will depend on who you get on the other side of the line, how persuasive (or persistent) you are, and a couple other factors. I've heard, if you don't get the freebie, hang up, call back and try again with another representative.
Face it- Direct CAN'T totally give Sunday Ticket away- they're in hock to the NFL to the tune of $4 BILLION dollars for exclusivity rights- so that money has to come from somewhere.
Library DVDs? You mean the ones some renters use for beer coasters or Frisbees with their dogs? You get what you pay for in that regard. I've seen plenty so ruined, they wouldn't even play on my Blu-Ray.
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most libraries these days are moving toward digital streaming and download. anyway the NFL produces these things and I can't imagine somebody more invested in making the league look good as a public relations ploy...
WSS
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But Tour we have several really good storylines.
1. Two, count 'em, two first round picks trying to show they really were worth it, one of whom was an S.I. coverboy who chose to go thru rehab.
2. Multiple veteran players to follow who are in the "mentor" stage of their lives helping the young pups become real winning NFL players
3. One losing franchise trying to put it back together for the first time in decades after the "year that got away".
4. A whole team that can adopt the "moneysign" while the rehabbed QB smiles in self-mockery
5. A team with 10 new drafted rookies that have the potential to right this ship
6. A long suffering fan base that has actually dared to hope again despite Lucy stealing that football at every new opportunity
Hell-I'd damn sure watch it
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i think we'd all watch it being fans and all, the point is do you think it'd be a pos or neg considering this is a very important year for the coaching staff getting these guys 'right' for a brutal schedule.
don't think pettine or farmer would like the players to have to dodge cameramen and worry about what some player says about something that throws another bad light on ANY situation.
i, myself, think it'd be a distraction not needed. make the fucking playoffs already and then come back talking about 'Hard Knocks'.
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I have read on another site that if you call directv and threaten to cancel service, they will offer Sunday ticket for free. Subscribers do this every year. I use the library for free dvd movies.
Well aware of that. Yeah- you can probably pull that stunt- once- after your commitment is up. They do keep track. I did manage to get $60 off this past year, for being a "longtime loyal customer." er sucker.
It will depend on who you get on the other side of the line, how persuasive (or persistent) you are, and a couple other factors. I've heard, if you don't get the freebie, hang up, call back and try again with another representative.
Face it- Direct CAN'T totally give Sunday Ticket away- they're in hock to the NFL to the tune of $4 BILLION dollars for exclusivity rights- so that money has to come from somewhere.
Library DVDs? You mean the ones some renters use for beer coasters or Frisbees with their dogs? You get what you pay for in that regard. I've seen plenty so ruined, they wouldn't even play on my Blu-Ray.
Well aware of that. Yeah- you can probably pull that stunt- once- after your commitment is up. They do keep track. I did manage to get $60 off this past year, for being a "longtime loyal customer." er sucker.
It will depend on who you get on the other side of the line, how persuasive (or persistent) you are, and a couple other factors. I've heard, if you don't get the freebie, hang up, call back and try again with another representative.
Face it- Direct CAN'T totally give Sunday Ticket away- they're in hock to the NFL to the tune of $4 BILLION dollars for exclusivity rights- so that money has to come from somewhere.
Library DVDs? You mean the ones some renters use for beer coasters or Frisbees with their dogs? You get what you pay for in that regard. I've seen plenty so ruined, they wouldn't even play on my Blu-Ray.
I think you're overestimating how many people call in and do that each year. I'd bet for every 1 person who does, 4 just simply pay the price of the ticket. Trust me, in my generation people HATE confrontation and would rather just go with the rules.
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i think we'd all watch it being fans and all, the point is do you think it'd be a pos or neg considering this is a very important year for the coaching staff getting these guys 'right' for a brutal schedule.
don't think pettine or farmer would like the players to have to dodge cameramen and worry about what some player says about something that throws another bad light on ANY situation.
i, myself, think it'd be a distraction not needed. make the fucking playoffs already and then come back talking about 'Hard Knocks'.
i think we'd all watch it being fans and all, the point is do you think it'd be a pos or neg considering this is a very important year for the coaching staff getting these guys 'right' for a brutal schedule.
don't think pettine or farmer would like the players to have to dodge cameramen and worry about what some player says about something that throws another bad light on ANY situation.
i, myself, think it'd be a distraction not needed. make the fucking playoffs already and then come back talking about 'Hard Knocks'.
There's little doubt that observation alters behavior... camera on = showtime... Not a positive.
My earlier point was not that I would not watch, but that the series has gotten tired. So unless we,, or at minimum one of our AFCN brethren were featured, after each episode I watched I'd ask myself why I bothered.
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doesn't matter- Browns said no.
Haslam doesn't want cameras in Johnny's face.
Good for them.
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True, but someone usually volunteers.
Houston seems interested. If they get it, then we can all watch Hoyer adjust to Big City life...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
True, but someone usually volunteers.
Houston seems interested. If they get it, then we can all watch Hoyer adjust to Big City life...
True, but someone usually volunteers.
Houston seems interested. If they get it, then we can all watch Hoyer adjust to Big City life...
Despite Houston being a larger city, population wise than Cleveland, it is really no more of a "Big City". Cleveland has big city infrastructure, amenities, culture which Houston may only be catching up on.
I am not sure that is how you meant that comment....but that is how I ran with it.
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True, but someone usually volunteers.
Houston seems interested. If they get it, then we can all watch Hoyer adjust to Big City life...
Despite Houston being a larger city, population wise than Cleveland, it is really no more of a "Big City". Cleveland has big city infrastructure, amenities, culture which Houston may only be catching up on.
I am not sure that is how you meant that comment....but that is how I ran with it.
Despite Houston being a larger city, population wise than Cleveland, it is really no more of a "Big City". Cleveland has big city infrastructure, amenities, culture which Houston may only be catching up on.
I am not sure that is how you meant that comment....but that is how I ran with it.
Houston is a top-10 overall media market. Cleveland is 19th.
Houston is a top-10 television market. Cleveland is 17th.
Houston is 4th in population. Cleveland is 48th.
Cleveland is a little-big city. A city...but not really on the same level. It's like comparing Hoboken and NYC.
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Cleveland might not be as big as Houston but the fans are 10 times as passionate and the Browns are more historical than the Texans.
Houston is famous for rappers and sizzurp
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Cleveland might not be as big as Houston but the fans are 10 times as passionate and the Browns are more historical than the Texans.
Houston is famous for rappers and sizzurp
Cleveland might not be as big as Houston but the fans are 10 times as passionate and the Browns are more historical than the Texans.
Houston is famous for rappers and sizzurp
I would expect the Browns to be more historical than a team that just became a teenager.
The Oilers...it's a little closer.
As for culture...Houston is the one of the few cities left with an active ballet and opera and symphony and theatre.
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I've lived in LA, NYC, DC, Yokohama/Tokyo. Bigger sucks in my opinion. Give me less traffic and cheaper cost of living any day.
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Despite Houston being a larger city, population wise than Cleveland, it is really no more of a "Big City". Cleveland has big city infrastructure, amenities, culture which Houston may only be catching up on.
I am not sure that is how you meant that comment....but that is how I ran with it.
Houston is a top-10 overall media market. Cleveland is 19th.
Houston is a top-10 television market. Cleveland is 17th.
Houston is 4th in population. Cleveland is 48th.
Cleveland is a little-big city. A city...but not really on the same level. It's like comparing Hoboken and NYC.
Houston is a top-10 overall media market. Cleveland is 19th.
Houston is a top-10 television market. Cleveland is 17th.
Houston is 4th in population. Cleveland is 48th.
Cleveland is a little-big city. A city...but not really on the same level. It's like comparing Hoboken and NYC.
You are just going by pure population. (and note....overall regional population isn't that far off). Not that long ago....as in when I was growing up, those rankings were reversed. Cleveland has both heavy rail and light rail transportation to get their people around. I don't think Houston does. Cleveland has world class orchestras, art museums, medical facilities, and other attractions and industry...etc. etc. etc. etc. Houston has some of that, but it does not have the history, culture that Cleveland has. Sure, it has a lot of shitkickers and goatropers.....but hell, one of the best things about Houston....Gilley's isn't even there anymore.
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Cleveland might not be as big as Houston but the fans are 10 times as passionate and the Browns are more historical than the Texans.
Houston is famous for rappers and sizzurp
I would expect the Browns to be more historical than a team that just became a teenager.
The Oilers...it's a little closer.
As for culture...Houston is the one of the few cities left with an active ballet and opera and symphony and theatre.
I would expect the Browns to be more historical than a team that just became a teenager.
The Oilers...it's a little closer.
As for culture...Houston is the one of the few cities left with an active ballet and opera and symphony and theatre.
Cleveland, I believe, did lose its opera to the recent recession. There is an active ballet:
http://www.clevelandballet.org/
And I don't need to tell you about the quality of the Cleveland Orchestra...probably one of the 5 best worldwide....and Playhouse Square:
"Playhouse Square, is the Cleveland Theater District in downtown Cleveland, Ohio,[2] the largest performing arts center in the United States outside of New York. (Only Lincoln Center inNew York City is larger.)[3] Constructed in a span of 19 months in the early 1920s, the theaters were subsequently closed down, but were revived through a grassroots effort. Their renovation and reopening helped usher in a new era of downtown revitalization in Cleveland, and was called "one of the top ten successes in Cleveland history"
This doesn't even count the Cleveland Playhouse, which isn't in Playhouse Square.
"Seven American orchestras were numbered among the world's top twenty in a 2008 critics' poll by Gramophone. They were, in rank order, the Chicago Symphony Orchestra (5th), the Cleveland Orchestra (7th), the Los Angeles Philharmonic (8th), the Boston Symphony Orchestra (11th), the New York Philharmonic (12th), the San Francisco Symphony (13th), and the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra (New York City) (18th).[18]"
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True, but someone usually volunteers.
Houston seems interested. If they get it, then we can all watch Hoyer adjust to Big City life...
Despite Houston being a larger city, population wise than Cleveland, it is really no more of a "Big City". Cleveland has big city infrastructure, amenities, culture which Houston may only be catching up on.
I am not sure that is how you meant that comment....but that is how I ran with it.
Despite Houston being a larger city, population wise than Cleveland, it is really no more of a "Big City". Cleveland has big city infrastructure, amenities, culture which Houston may only be catching up on.
I am not sure that is how you meant that comment....but that is how I ran with it.
Size... Houston is huge... Cleveland is not.
Cleveland might not be as big as Houston but the fans are 10 times as passionate and the Browns are more historical than the Texans.
That's what you say today...
I've lived in LA, NYC, DC, Yokohama/Tokyo. Bigger sucks in my opinion. Give me less traffic and cheaper cost of living any day.
Amen to the traffic... Moved from Houston to a place where I can find a traffic jam if I look in the right place at the right time of day... and if you consider a "traffic jam" to include an intersection where it takes you two cycles to make it through.
Cost wise though Houston was far cheaper... and Lord... how I do miss its restaurants. Great city for foodies...
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I wouldn't necessarily look to the rejection of liberal pipe dreams like light rail as a knock on a city's establishment as "big."
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