Roger Goodell: We take Browns texting "VERY SERIOUSLY"
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No, you are inferring that A. jaywalking and B. robbing a bank and gunning down bank tellers and
customers...
are to be penalized equally because they both broke the law.
Nonsense.
No, you are inferring that A. jaywalking and B. robbing a bank and gunning down bank tellers and
customers...
are to be penalized equally because they both broke the law.
Nonsense.
Not saying that at all. Im saying that there are rules governing the NFL, and society, and breaking the rules results in punishments. The closest case we've seen is SpyGate, where a team broke the rule on using electronic devices. The result of that was the Patriots paid a $500,000 fine and lost their first round draft pick. Today Goddell hinted that breaking the NFL rules, regardless of competitive advantage, is the problem. As such I would not be overly surprised if the Browns lost #19 and $250,000.
My larger point is let's not be the type of fans that say, "yeah we got caught but it wasn't that bad" or "the NFL is picking on us 'cause we're Cleveland fans". It is what it is and at this point we should be focused on how the Browns move forward.
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I know English is your second language but I never said beating someone and texting a coach is the same thing. I was drawing parallels between fans supporting rule breakers because they wear the right uniform. The draft picks play a role base on what the Patriots received for SpyGate. The Patriots were fined $500,000 and lost their 1st round pick. I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns lost #19 as compromise for truly not having a competitive advantage.
My whole point, and again this is also indicative of society as a whole, that as fans we ignore the mistake and defend the culprit when they are aligned with us. I'm seeing it in my area right now with Syracuse basketball.
You're an idiot.
No one is supporting our players and coaches break the law.
It no way shape or form does texting on the sideline compare at all to domestic violence nor merit a loss of a high draft pick.
End of story
You're an idiot.
No one is supporting our players and coaches break the law.
It no way shape or form does texting on the sideline compare at all to domestic violence nor merit a loss of a high draft pick.
End of story
Seriously last time, no one is comparing the punishment for domestic violence with texting.
Farmer broke the NFL's rules and will be punished for it and yes reading this thread is the same, woe is me, the big bad NFL is sticking it to Cleveland.
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You're an idiot.
No one is supporting our players and coaches break the law.
It no way shape or form does texting on the sideline compare at all to domestic violence nor merit a loss of a high draft pick.
End of story
Seriously last time, no one is comparing the punishment for domestic violence with texting.
Farmer broke the NFL's rules and will be punished for it and yes reading this thread is the same, woe is me, the big bad NFL is sticking it to Cleveland.
Farmer broke the NFL's rules and will be punished for it and yes reading this thread is the same, woe is me, the big bad NFL is sticking it to Cleveland.
Was Dallas stripped of it's draft picks when one it's re-instated players killed a man in a DUI?
Was Baltimore stripped of picks for tampering with Ray Rice evidence?
Was Pittsburgh stripped of picks when Mike Tomlin placed his foot on the field at Jacoby Jones?
Show some consistently with your argument you fruit.
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Farmer broke the NFL's rules and will be punished for it and yes reading this thread is the same, woe is me, the big bad NFL is sticking it to Cleveland.
Was Dallas stripped of it's draft picks when one it's re-instated players killed a man in a DUI?
Was Baltimore stripped of picks for tampering with Ray Rice evidence?
Was Pittsburgh stripped of picks when Mike Tomlin placed his foot on the field at Jacoby Jones?
Show some consistently with your argument you fruit.
Was Dallas stripped of it's draft picks when one it's re-instated players killed a man in a DUI?
Was Baltimore stripped of picks for tampering with Ray Rice evidence?
Was Pittsburgh stripped of picks when Mike Tomlin placed his foot on the field at Jacoby Jones?
Show some consistently with your argument you fruit.
Again, SpyGate is the closest example. I'm pretty sure in 2007 your Middle School had the internet.
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Was Dallas stripped of it's draft picks when one it's re-instated players killed a man in a DUI?
Was Baltimore stripped of picks for tampering with Ray Rice evidence?
Was Pittsburgh stripped of picks when Mike Tomlin placed his foot on the field at Jacoby Jones?
Show some consistently with your argument you fruit.
Again, SpyGate is the closest example. I'm pretty sure in 2007 your Middle School had the internet.
Again, SpyGate is the closest example. I'm pretty sure in 2007 your Middle School had the internet.
SpyGate has NOTHING to do with texting on the sideline.
Everyone in this thread disagrees with you, you're being an idiot.
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Was Dallas stripped of it's draft picks when one it's re-instated players killed a man in a DUI?
Was Baltimore stripped of picks for tampering with Ray Rice evidence?
Was Pittsburgh stripped of picks when Mike Tomlin placed his foot on the field at Jacoby Jones?
Show some consistently with your argument you fruit.
Again, SpyGate is the closest example. I'm pretty sure in 2007 your Middle School had the internet.
Again, SpyGate is the closest example. I'm pretty sure in 2007 your Middle School had the internet.
How is spyGate even closely related to textgate? In my opinion, the Patriots should have received a much stiffer penalty than they did, and the texting should be a fine and suspension for the GM at the very most. No way a first round draft pick can be taken away for that.
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Again, SpyGate is the closest example. I'm pretty sure in 2007 your Middle School had the internet.
SpyGate has NOTHING to do with texting on the sideline.
Everyone in this thread disagrees with you, you're being an idiot.
SpyGate has NOTHING to do with texting on the sideline.
Everyone in this thread disagrees with you, you're being an idiot.
It has everything to do with this. The NFL has rules concerning using electronic devices during games and where they can be used. I'm not sure if Browns fans actually watch football.
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SpyGate has NOTHING to do with texting on the sideline.
Everyone in this thread disagrees with you, you're being an idiot.
It has everything to do with this. The NFL has rules concerning using electronic devices during games and where they can be used. I'm not sure if Browns fans actually watch football.
I'm not sure if Browns fans actually watch football.
You're an idiot.
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Again, SpyGate is the closest example. I'm pretty sure in 2007 your Middle School had the internet.
How is spyGate even closely related to textgate? In my opinion, the Patriots should have received a much stiffer penalty than they did, and the texting should be a fine and suspension for the GM at the very most. No way a first round draft pick can be taken away for that.
How is spyGate even closely related to textgate? In my opinion, the Patriots should have received a much stiffer penalty than they did, and the texting should be a fine and suspension for the GM at the very most. No way a first round draft pick can be taken away for that.
SpyGate was about improperly placed video cameras. The NFL allows videotaping opposing coaches during the game just not from the vantage point the Patriots used.
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I'm not sure if Browns fans actually watch football.
You're an idiot.
You're an idiot.
I second that
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Good argument boys.
You've convinced me, the NFL has an agenda to keep the Browns down!
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Zombo makes a great point.
There is no comparison to domestic violence and texting, NONE
Zombo said:
If Farmer beat the fuck out of his wife I would be outraged.
If the Panthers GM texted a coach during a game i wouldnt care.
You can flip that around any way you want.
The NFL is gay if they make an examples out of team X for texting coaches.
Z
It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules
I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
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Good argument boys.
You've convinced me, the NFL has an agenda to keep the Browns down!
Good argument boys.
You've convinced me, the NFL has an agenda to keep the Browns down!
Yours is too severe.....that's all. We don't know the punishment yet, so no one is saying the NFL has an agenda............at least not yet
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If the GM texts the OC in the middle of the game and says "wtf are you doing?" Why is this a scandal?
We are going to lose a draft pick because that twat Shanahan cried on Mary Kay's shoulder over a mocha latte about mean texts?
Can a coach text GMs while he is doing his job?
Who cares either way?
Shannahan is a vagina. Turn your phone off during the game. I dont check mine during a Browns game, what is he doing checking his?
Z
Zombo said:
Shannahan is a vagina.
No he isn't. I like vagina"s For a long time now.
I'd say the guy is more like a dick. Can't say I have ever liked but one of those.......mine.
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I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
Zombo said:
I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
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Zombo said:
I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
You would hope we as fans shouldn't be angry if Goodell takes away one of our first round picks over a text message when The Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, etc have done far worse?
GOOD GOD YOU'RE AN ASS
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If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
You would hope we as fans shouldn't be angry if Goodell takes away one of our first round picks over a text message when The Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, etc have done far worse?
GOOD GOD YOU'RE AN ASS
You would hope we as fans shouldn't be angry if Goodell takes away one of our first round picks over a text message when The Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, etc have done far worse?
GOOD GOD YOU'RE AN ASS
Again I know this reply isn't sinking in but the NFL, like many, workplaces has ruled governing on players, coaches and management actions both on and off the field. Conspiracy theories aside, the NFL punishes crimes consistently admittedly with the glaring exception of domestic violence which they have appeared to rewrite as they went.
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Zombo said:
I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
You are completely incorrect on your facts re spygate, had nothing to do with Jets, Pats were taping Rams practice before Super Bowl.
Z
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They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
You are completely incorrect on your facts re spygate, had nothing to do with Jets, Pats were taping Rams practice before Super Bowl.
Z
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=12216634&src=desktopZombo said:
You are completely incorrect on your facts re spygate, had nothing to do with Jets, Pats were taping Rams practice before Super Bowl.
Z
You may want to review this. The Jets was proven everythngi else is speculation
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