Roger Goodell: We take Browns texting "VERY SERIOUSLY"
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Zombo makes a great point.
There is no comparison to domestic violence and texting, NONE
Zombo said:
If Farmer beat the fuck out of his wife I would be outraged.
If the Panthers GM texted a coach during a game i wouldnt care.
You can flip that around any way you want.
The NFL is gay if they make an examples out of team X for texting coaches.
Z
It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules
I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
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Good argument boys.
You've convinced me, the NFL has an agenda to keep the Browns down!
Good argument boys.
You've convinced me, the NFL has an agenda to keep the Browns down!
Yours is too severe.....that's all. We don't know the punishment yet, so no one is saying the NFL has an agenda............at least not yet
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If the GM texts the OC in the middle of the game and says "wtf are you doing?" Why is this a scandal?
We are going to lose a draft pick because that twat Shanahan cried on Mary Kay's shoulder over a mocha latte about mean texts?
Can a coach text GMs while he is doing his job?
Who cares either way?
Shannahan is a vagina. Turn your phone off during the game. I dont check mine during a Browns game, what is he doing checking his?
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Zombo said:
Shannahan is a vagina.
No he isn't. I like vagina"s For a long time now.
I'd say the guy is more like a dick. Can't say I have ever liked but one of those.......mine.
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I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
Zombo said:
I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
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Zombo said:
I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
You would hope we as fans shouldn't be angry if Goodell takes away one of our first round picks over a text message when The Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, etc have done far worse?
GOOD GOD YOU'RE AN ASS
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If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
You would hope we as fans shouldn't be angry if Goodell takes away one of our first round picks over a text message when The Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, etc have done far worse?
GOOD GOD YOU'RE AN ASS
You would hope we as fans shouldn't be angry if Goodell takes away one of our first round picks over a text message when The Ravens, Steelers, Patriots, etc have done far worse?
GOOD GOD YOU'RE AN ASS
Again I know this reply isn't sinking in but the NFL, like many, workplaces has ruled governing on players, coaches and management actions both on and off the field. Conspiracy theories aside, the NFL punishes crimes consistently admittedly with the glaring exception of domestic violence which they have appeared to rewrite as they went.
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Zombo said:
I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
You are completely incorrect on your facts re spygate, had nothing to do with Jets, Pats were taping Rams practice before Super Bowl.
Z
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They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
You are completely incorrect on your facts re spygate, had nothing to do with Jets, Pats were taping Rams practice before Super Bowl.
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http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=12216634&src=desktopZombo said:
You are completely incorrect on your facts re spygate, had nothing to do with Jets, Pats were taping Rams practice before Super Bowl.
Z
You may want to review this. The Jets was proven everythngi else is speculation
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If the league cared about the FANS, then they'd hit Haslem in the pocket book....(cause we dont care about his $).....then HE can feel the sting and deal with Farmer how he see's fit....
But by taking a draft pick, they are really hurting US the fans, because it damages the team we love.....
so.....Roger......who ya gonna punish?
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A little off-topic, but despite the mixed degree of news when's the last time Cleveland has gotten so much publicity? Hell, those years LeBron was gone it was like the city didn't even exist.
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No, you are inferring that A. jaywalking and B. robbing a bank and gunning down bank tellers and
customers...
are to be penalized equally because they both broke the law.
Nonsense.
Not saying that at all. Im saying that there are rules governing the NFL, and society, and breaking the rules results in punishments. The closest case we've seen is SpyGate, where a team broke the rule on using electronic devices. The result of that was the Patriots paid a $500,000 fine and lost their first round draft pick. Today Goddell hinted that breaking the NFL rules, regardless of competitive advantage, is the problem. As such I would not be overly surprised if the Browns lost #19 and $250,000.
My larger point is let's not be the type of fans that say, "yeah we got caught but it wasn't that bad" or "the NFL is picking on us 'cause we're Cleveland fans". It is what it is and at this point we should be focused on how the Browns move forward.
My larger point is let's not be the type of fans that say, "yeah we got caught but it wasn't that bad" or "the NFL is picking on us 'cause we're Cleveland fans". It is what it is and at this point we should be focused on how the Browns move forward.
I will argue with you on this as well.
I see Tom Benson, that gay owner from Denver with the mink coat, Jerry Jones,& Arthur Blank on the sidelines virtually every time their team is on tv, and sometimes they are commiserating with coaches or players- WTF is the difference between that and our dumbass GM texting?
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My larger point is let's not be the type of fans that say, "yeah we got caught but it wasn't that bad" or "the NFL is picking on us 'cause we're Cleveland fans". It is what it is and at this point we should be focused on how the Browns move forward.
I will argue with you on this as well.
I see Tom Benson, that gay owner from Denver with the mink coat, Jerry Jones,& Arthur Blank on the sidelines virtually every time their team is on tv, and sometimes they are commiserating with coaches or players- WTF is the difference between that and our dumbass GM texting?
I will argue with you on this as well.
I see Tom Benson, that gay owner from Denver with the mink coat, Jerry Jones,& Arthur Blank on the sidelines virtually every time their team is on tv, and sometimes they are commiserating with coaches or players- WTF is the difference between that and our dumbass GM texting?
Well....go back and look....if they're on the sideline, then they aren't talking to the coaches.....there are 3 designated areas on the sidelines and very specific places they can and cannot stand......and the coaches zone isn't where the owners are......
and, just as an aside, Tom Benson owns the Saints.....
and.....the issue isnt that he made a suggestion to a coach....cause, guess what....GM's do that all the time...
The issue is that someone on the sideline was in communication with a team official using a cell phone.....which is banned...
THAT is the only issue....cell phone use on the sidelines.......
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http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=12216634&src=desktopZombo said:
You are completely incorrect on your facts re spygate, had nothing to do with Jets, Pats were taping Rams practice before Super Bowl.
Z
You may want to review this. The Jets was proven everythngi else is speculation
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=12216634&src=desktop
You may want to review this. The Jets was proven everythngi else is speculation
The nfl destroyed all of the evidence which is indicative of something much more serious than anyone but the patriots and nfl office know.
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So what will shannadick's fine be for using an illegal electronic device on the sideline during a game?
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Zombo said:
I don't care if it is the Browns, Falcons, Panthers etc.
GM texting the coach is minor. And who knows who else did it?
Spying on the other team's practice? Major.
Your star player beating the fuck out of females? Major.
GM texting coaches from box? Wrist slap.
Z
They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
They didn't tape practice, the Patriots taped the game which you are allowed to do. Where the violation occurred is they taped the Jets from the Jets sideline which you can't do. You have to tape them from your sideline.
I think Goddell's point, which the OPs tweet quote gets at, is that the violation of any rule is a major issue to the NFL. So the calling him names for taking that position is Browns fans feeling that what Farmer did is really no big thing.
While I agree competitively speaking I think it probably didn't give the Browns any advantage. I also agree with Goddell that this is a rule that every GM knows, and if they don't they shouldn't be a GM, and that's the problem. One of the main players in deciding the course of the Browns knowingly broke an NFL "just cause he was frustrated". If the penalty is cash and a first rounder I would hope as fans we would be more angry at the guy angrily breaking a known rule than feeling persecuted by the Commissioner.
dude, sometimes a person should realize WHEN to shut the fuck up.
when 99 % of the people in the 100 person room disagree with you, the 1%, it's cool to make your point but to stand there and argue and be shitty about it...............well don't say 'i didn't realize' when the 99 jump on you and rip you into pieces.
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So do we know the exact substance of these texts? All I read was it was regarding "strategy". So is it illegal to do that because people outside can pick up on something that the broadcasters say and relay it to the sidelines? In which case wouldn't they also have to flat out ban coaches from having any electronic devices on them cause they could have anybody basically spai for them on these clandestine nationally televised broadcasts and text them info.
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