Roger Goodell: We take Browns texting "VERY SERIOUSLY"
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So what will shannadick's fine be for using an illegal electronic device on the sideline during a game?
So what will shannadick's fine be for using an illegal electronic device on the sideline during a game?
Honestly....thats how I think it should go.....
But, it appears the League will assume this to be an organizational infraction, as opposed to an individual infraction.
They will then penalize the franchise, who would inturn have the option to penalize their employee(s) who caused them the grief...
So, it boils down to "how do you text someone who shouldnt have their phone?"......Id say Farmer had a reasonable expectation that Shanny wouldn't get the message till AFTER the game......
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Let's be honest....
It was Shanny who broke the rules....HE had the phone with him(and shouldnt have)....He had it on(and shouldnt have)......he checked it during a game(and shouldn't have).......THEN IT GETS EVEN WORSE.....
Shanny decided he wanted out and wanted to leave the Browns, so he called Mary Kay Crabbot and completely back stabbed his boss(Farmer) and screwed the whole team, Pettine, the other coaches and all the player.....for his own personal selfish reasons...
and he gets to leave and get a new job, while the team and players stay to pay the piper.....
Im usually a pretty chill dude, but Id kick his whiny little pussified ass If I ever saw him in person......
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i think farmer really didn't know what he was doing was wrong. now did he break the rules by the exact letter of the law? yep. did he do it to cheat? i highly doubt it.
i would think the nfl would be privy to the exact content of the text. if this leads to something severe i might have to launch an egg at goodell the next time i go into the city.
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Zombo makes a great point.
There is no comparison to domestic violence and texting, NONE
Zombo said:
If Farmer beat the fuck out of his wife I would be outraged.
If the Panthers GM texted a coach during a game i wouldnt care.
You can flip that around any way you want.
The NFL is gay if they make an examples out of team X for texting coaches.
Z
It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules
It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules
Well I see it more as a fan who doesn't endorse jail time for rolling through a stop sign.
WSS
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Let's be honest....
It was Shanny who broke the rules....HE had the phone with him(and shouldnt have)....He had it on(and shouldnt have)......he checked it during a game(and shouldn't have).......THEN IT GETS EVEN WORSE.....
Shanny decided he wanted out and wanted to leave the Browns, so he called Mary Kay Crabbot and completely back stabbed his boss(Farmer) and screwed the whole team, Pettine, the other coaches and all the player.....for his own personal selfish reasons...
and he gets to leave and get a new job, while the team and players stay to pay the piper.....
Im usually a pretty chill dude, but Id kick his whiny little pussified ass If I ever saw him in person......
Let's be honest....
It was Shanny who broke the rules....HE had the phone with him(and shouldnt have)....He had it on(and shouldnt have)......he checked it during a game(and shouldn't have).......THEN IT GETS EVEN WORSE.....
Shanny decided he wanted out and wanted to leave the Browns, so he called Mary Kay Crabbot and completely back stabbed his boss(Farmer) and screwed the whole team, Pettine, the other coaches and all the player.....for his own personal selfish reasons...
and he gets to leave and get a new job, while the team and players stay to pay the piper.....
Im usually a pretty chill dude, but Id kick his whiny little pussified ass If I ever saw him in person......
Kid Shanny has always struck me as a dude who pulls some douche move like demanding service at a bar with the claim "do you know who my father is!". I haven't been so happy to shed a coach since the still fat Ryan brother.
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Let's be honest....
It was Shanny who broke the rules....HE had the phone with him(and shouldnt have)....He had it on(and shouldnt have)......he checked it during a game(and shouldn't have).......THEN IT GETS EVEN WORSE.....
Shanny decided he wanted out and wanted to leave the Browns, so he called Mary Kay Crabbot and completely back stabbed his boss(Farmer) and screwed the whole team, Pettine, the other coaches and all the player.....for his own personal selfish reasons...
and he gets to leave and get a new job, while the team and players stay to pay the piper.....
Im usually a pretty chill dude, but Id kick his whiny little pussified ass If I ever saw him in person......
Kid Shanny has always struck me as a dude who pulls some douche move like demanding service at a bar with the claim "do you know who my father is!". I haven't been so happy to shed a coach since the still fat Ryan brother.
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Hope it's the 4th rounder like many in here believe it will be. If I were betting I'd say #19.
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we don't even know if there'll be a draft pick involved.............plenty of money though, i'm sure.
i'd love to hear these owners by themselves behind closed doors at say, a poker game.
"thanks jimmy for the extra couple of dollars that you all provided us" jerrah jones laughs as he pulls back a stack of poker chips.
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we don't even know if there'll be a draft pick involved.............plenty of money though, i'm sure.
i'd love to hear these owners by themselves behind closed doors at say, a poker game.
"thanks jimmy for the extra couple of dollars that you all provided us" jerrah jones laughs as he pulls back a stack of poker chips.
we don't even know if there'll be a draft pick involved.............plenty of money though, i'm sure.
i'd love to hear these owners by themselves behind closed doors at say, a poker game.
"thanks jimmy for the extra couple of dollars that you all provided us" jerrah jones laughs as he pulls back a stack of poker chips.
No it's all speculation right now but the NFL knows that money isn't really a deterrent
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i hear ya.
the owners are going to have to rein in their dog sooner or later because the outcry with the way things are going under goodell is just going to get louder and louder.
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spygate = huge advantage
textinggate = dumb, no advantage
It's stupid, you can bet this worthless commish just doesn't have
the Browns listed on his "favorite teams" list.
He only goes favorites for his goodoldboys club members.
Unfortunately Farmer broke the rules and typically in a society full of rules you get punished. Now when deciding the punishment I would hope advantage vs. disadvantage would play a role but the NFL, as of late, likes standardizing punishments.
Unfortunately Farmer broke the rules and typically in a society full of rules you get punished. Now when deciding the punishment I would hope advantage vs. disadvantage would play a role but the NFL, as of late, likes standardizing punishments.
So you can't text during a game, but it's OK to send down pictures of the opposing team's formations? Suspend Farmer for X games, and fine him X amount of money- if we lose a first round pick, I'm gonna be pissed.
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Troy Palamalamalamua was fined $10000 a year or 2 ago for using his phone on the sideline........
so my question would be why does HE get fined as an individual, while the Browns are getting a team penalty....???
Shouldn't the stoolers lose a pick if the Browns are ???
I say fine Shanny and/or Farmer and keep your frigging fingers off our picks.....
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Troy Palamalamalamua was fined $10000 a year or 2 ago for using his phone on the sideline........
so my question would be why does HE get fined as an individual, while the Browns are getting a team penalty....???
Shouldn't the stoolers lose a pick if the Browns are ???
I say fine Shanny and/or Farmer and keep your frigging fingers off our picks.....
Troy Palamalamalamua was fined $10000 a year or 2 ago for using his phone on the sideline........
so my question would be why does HE get fined as an individual, while the Browns are getting a team penalty....???
Shouldn't the stoolers lose a pick if the Browns are ???
I say fine Shanny and/or Farmer and keep your frigging fingers off our picks.....
Petty violation. Fine Ray Farmer. Over.
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Troy Palamalamalamua was fined $10000 a year or 2 ago for using his phone on the sideline........
so my question would be why does HE get fined as an individual, while the Browns are getting a team penalty....???
Shouldn't the stoolers lose a pick if the Browns are ???
I say fine Shanny and/or Farmer and keep your frigging fingers off our picks.....
Troy Palamalamalamua was fined $10000 a year or 2 ago for using his phone on the sideline........
so my question would be why does HE get fined as an individual, while the Browns are getting a team penalty....???
Shouldn't the stoolers lose a pick if the Browns are ???
I'll take a stab at this one. Because Polly played for Rooney; and Roger Goodfella answers to Rooney. Therefore, the player gets fined while Rooney's bottom line gets protected. Nothing new. Farmer doesn't work for the right owner in a league that doesn't treat/punish all teams equally.
The following excerpt sheds some light on why Roger Goodell remains forever obligated to please Rooney first and foremost. I remember another similar article that talked about how important it was for Rooney to deliver the news personally to his good friend after all his hard work campaigning to get the majority of owners sold on Roger.
By Jim Corbett, USA TODAYNORTHBROOK, Ill. — At 5:30 p.m. CT Tuesday, Pittsburgh Steelers chairman Dan Rooney and Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, co-chairmen of the NFL's commissioner search committee, ducked out of meetings with the owners and into the Renaissance Chicago North Shore Hotel lobby elevator. Both men wore dark suits and focused looks.Rooney drew the easy job, knocking on the door of Roger Goodell, hugging and congratulating Paul Tagliabue's right-hand man on being the right man to take on the job of commissioner for arguably America's most popular professional sports league. "I was doing some work, trying to be distracted, and Mr. Rooney came up and knocked on the door and told me," said Goodell, who received a five-year contract. "Thankfully, I had put my pants on."
Richardson knocked on the door of league counsel Gregg Levy, who had impressed owners over two days of presentations only to lose out on the fifth ballot, which went unanimously to Goodell. "Roger knew it was good news because I was smiling," Rooney said later. "I was looking for the best person to be commissioner, and I had no doubt in my mind that was Roger Goodell.
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Yep. Goodell is a handpicked tool. A lot of fans of other teams, have seen that with the steelers, and a few other teams,
how things are handled differently in favor of his buddies/owners - filtering down to the refs
in big games - the steelers would have lost all sorts of big games, if not for ridiculous, right-on-cue
"pass interference" calls at crunch time late in games, etc.
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Rumor is the Falcons will lose a second rounder for piping in crowd noise must be Goddell loves Arthur Blank
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Rumor is the Falcons will lose a second rounder for piping in crowd noise must be Goddell loves Arthur Blank
Rumor is the Falcons will lose a second rounder for piping in crowd noise must be Goddell loves Arthur Blank
To me, thats an obvious attempt to cheat and/or hurt the other team........a thousand times worse than any text.....(I hope)
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Rumor is the Falcons will lose a second rounder for piping in crowd noise must be Goddell loves Arthur Blank
To me, thats an obvious attempt to cheat and/or hurt the other team........a thousand times worse than any text.....(I hope)
To me, thats an obvious attempt to cheat and/or hurt the other team........a thousand times worse than any text.....(I hope)
And that's where I think I disagree with everyone on this board, must be I'm wrong
, while I do think crowd noise is a deliberate way to try and get a competitive advantage I really don't have the txt messages to know what was said. I've been speaking under the assumption that Farmer was not texting Shanahan dinner reservations but actual information he thought would increase the Browns success on the field. If Farmer was texting, "you suck at you job" or "the offense doesn't look good" he should be fired for being a fucking idiot. Now if they were, "dude Gordon isn't running hard so don't throw it to him" or "c'mon run the ball more they are weak on the outside" that would be trying to gain a competitive advantage, even though a bad attempt.
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