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Are we paying attention to our Southern Border?

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  • mz. ?
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    ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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    I'm serious.

    The only reason I ask is because what some "hyper-moral" people find to be social ills is nothing more that bigotry wrapped with a cute red bow.

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      I'm serious.

      The only reason I ask is because what some "hyper-moral" people find to be social ills is nothing more that bigotry wrapped with a cute red bow.

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      mz. said:

      I'm serious.

      The only reason I ask is because what some "hyper-moral" people find to be social ills is nothing more that bigotry wrapped with a cute red bow.

      But there is a line somewhere that seperates particular amounts of one's life spent getting high or drunk no?

      At some point it becomes "immoral" even to you no?

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        Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by Mr. T
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        Being responsible for one's self is important, you must know your limitations. And with some people booze or dope dosn't mix well at any level.

        Head or Gut?
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          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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          Social ills aren't bigotry, that's way, way unnecessary.

          Abuse of alcohol, teen age pregnancies, gangs, illegal drugs, abuse of

          prescription drugs, sloth, apathy...

          in any society there are social anomalies to proper and self-edifying behavior

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          • Pumpkin Eater P
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            P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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            Why care if someone else chooses t ospend their life drunk and high? That's just less competition in the game of life for the rest of us.

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              Why care if someone else chooses t ospend their life drunk and high? That's just less competition in the game of life for the rest of us.

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              ? AdaM wrote on last edited by
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              @pumpkin-eater said:

              Why care if someone else chooses t ospend their life drunk and high? That's just less competition in the game of life for the rest of us.

              True 'stoners' are a lot more rare than you think. Most smokers are perfectly normal people and quite happy.

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                @pumpkin-eater said:

                Why care if someone else chooses t ospend their life drunk and high? That's just less competition in the game of life for the rest of us.

                True 'stoners' are a lot more rare than you think. Most smokers are perfectly normal people and quite happy.

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                Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                AdaM said:

                True 'stoners' are a lot more rare than you think. Most smokers are perfectly normal people and quite happy.

                Agreed.

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                  chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                  righties dont acknowledge that, though....

                  drugs are bad....cause the gov't told me. pot will kill your neighbor and rape your wife....

                  those that i talk with, that seem to have strong opinions against drug use, have never tried what they condemn. they base their beliefs from hearsay and propaganda....

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                    righties dont acknowledge that, though....

                    drugs are bad....cause the gov't told me. pot will kill your neighbor and rape your wife....

                    those that i talk with, that seem to have strong opinions against drug use, have never tried what they condemn. they base their beliefs from hearsay and propaganda....

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                    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by Legacy Fan
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                    @choco said:

                    those that i talk with, that seem to have strong opinions against drug use, have never tried what they condemn. they base their beliefs from hearsay and propaganda....

                    I'm not sure I see what is wrong with this practice.... I know that eating arsenic will kill me, so I don't. I know that calling a black man an n-word will get me punched in the face, so I don't (not to mention a myriad of reasons I don't use the word). I know that exposing skin for extended periods of time when it's in the teens will get me frostbite, so I don't.

                    In fact, just as the "true stoner" is a rarer entity than many might anticipate, the "reefer madness" set is even less common. A lot of people just don't like the lack of control they feel when under it's influence (or by observing others under its influence), so they don't.

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                      Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                      Since we know where everyone stands on dope, let hit the purpose of the subject on hand.

                      What is going on in Mexico? Texas says they will defend the border and wont wait on Obama to act.

                      Breaking News: Mexico revolting against tyranny not the cartels!

                      its a civil war according to this report.

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                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                        The corruption of gov officials allowed the cartel monster to grow huge and so out of control,

                        "civil war" is pretty much accurate, I think.

                        What a devasting result of politicians' greed and cowardice.

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                          Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by Mr. T
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                          Mexican gang activity seeping into Houston...

                          http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metrop...an/6299436.html

                          Mexican cartels infiltrate Houston

                          Recent arrests in a mistaken killing point to the perilous presence of gangs

                          The order was clear: Kill the guy in the Astros jersey.

                          But in a case of mistaken identity, Jose Perez ended up dead. The intended target — the Houston-based head of a Mexican drug cartel cell pumping millions of dollars of cocaine into the city — walked away.

                          Perez, 27, was just a working guy, out getting dinner late on a Friday with his wife and young children at Chilos, a seafood restaurant on the Gulf Freeway.

                          His murder and the assassination gone awry point to the perilous presence of Mexican organized crime and how cartel violence has seeped into the city.

                          Arrests came in December when police and federal agents got a break in the 2006 shooting as they charted the relationship and rivalries between at least five cartel cells operating in Houston. A rogue’s gallery of about 100 names and mug shots taken at Texas jails and morgues offers a blueprint for Mexican organized crime.

                          Houston has long been a major staging ground for importing illegal drugs from Mexico and shipping them to the rest of the United States, but a recent Department of Justice report notes it is one of 230 cities where cartels maintain distribution networks and supply lines.

                          At Chilos, the real crime boss was sitting at another table, as were two spotters. The hitman waited in the parking lot for Perez to leave the restaurant.

                          “I just remember that guy coming up to us and he started shooting and shooting and shooting and never stopped,” said Norma Gonzalez, Perez’s widow. He was hit twice.

                          “I know they will pay for what they have done, maybe in the next life,” she said of Perez’s killers. “I don’t know what is going to happen to them in this life.”

                          This activity costs all of us taxpayers, Mexican hit squads, special task forces to investigate?

                          Head or Gut?
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                            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            The filth is growing in America. We have to put a stop to these scum. 😁

                            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                              @choco said:

                              those that i talk with, that seem to have strong opinions against drug use, have never tried what they condemn. they base their beliefs from hearsay and propaganda....

                              I'm not sure I see what is wrong with this practice.... I know that eating arsenic will kill me, so I don't. I know that calling a black man an n-word will get me punched in the face, so I don't (not to mention a myriad of reasons I don't use the word). I know that exposing skin for extended periods of time when it's in the teens will get me frostbite, so I don't.

                              In fact, just as the "true stoner" is a rarer entity than many might anticipate, the "reefer madness" set is even less common. A lot of people just don't like the lack of control they feel when under it's influence (or by observing others under its influence), so they don't.

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                              chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                              @legacy-fan said:

                              I'm not sure I see what is wrong with this practice....

                              your examples are completely valid, but there is one problem with the analogy.

                              there is no dispute about what arsenic will do if youre exposed to it....yet, there is quite a bit of disparity between what the Fed (FDA) says and what people/independent researchers say. we know pot is good for some ailments, but the Fed would have you believe its as bad as coke.

                              thus, preying on the fears of those with no real knowledge of the subject.....tell them it'll lead to teenage pregnancy and a life of crime, the sheep will believe it.

                              i, on the other hand, know better. 🙄

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