O-line Draft Class of 2015
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lol... I hear you... playing in the top 20 can be very lucrative, but also very painful.
You've had a good run. I felt guilty for a good while that I got such a head start on you... not any more...
I think I've pretty much settled in for the duration now with just under five weeks to go. Fewer and fewer swaps until right before the draft when I'll try to catch some semi-sleepers rocketing up the board.
You've had a good run. I felt guilty for a good while that I got such a head start on you... not any more...
I think I've pretty much settled in for the duration now with just under five weeks to go. Fewer and fewer swaps until right before the draft when I'll try to catch some semi-sleepers rocketing up the board.
....it's been a very long slow climb....only to get donked on the head at the summit.....HA!
Just kind of a messed up period I think....everthing is kind of decided, so very little movement......and a massive log jam in the low 30's that will break and fill out the 20 somethings.....eventually.......it's just knowing when thats gonna happen......
Really.....Im fearing(or at least expecting) a massive rendering at draft time that wipes out all our work to this point.....is that how it rolls???
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I haven't had much luck finding highlights of Peat
DraftBreakdown is a great place to start... most are links to youtube vids. Peat's 2014 ND vid is there.
Spoiler Alert: He kicked ass. http://draftbreakdown.com/players/
This is not an in-depth analysis of these guys by any means. But here are the quick, off the cuff comments I got.
Interesting perspectives... thanks.
DraftBreakdown is a great place to start... most are links to youtube vids. Peat's 2014 ND vid is there.
Spoiler Alert: He kicked ass. http://draftbreakdown.com/players/
Interesting perspectives... thanks.
The only question I have left after that - is Notre Dame stop calling themselves The Fighting Irish after they got run over by Peat? Thanks for the video link Tour! Impressive. You've made me a believer and I'm at the point where I'd rather see film when there's so many varying scouting reports on a lot of prospects.Some of the guys they rank up near the top - have so many weaknesses you wonder why they're ranking them that high in these draft guides I buy.
I buy them more to get familiar with all the names and rankings. Then I go try to find the film.
I really appreciate what you and Mud contribute regarding the draft. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna get you back for busting my balls in my Perriman thread Tour.
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DraftBreakdown is a great place to start... most are links to youtube vids. Peat's 2014 ND vid is there.
Spoiler Alert: He kicked ass. http://draftbreakdown.com/players/
Interesting perspectives... thanks.
The only question I have left after that - is Notre Dame stop calling themselves The Fighting Irish after they got run over by Peat? Thanks for the video link Tour! Impressive. You've made me a believer and I'm at the point where I'd rather see film when there's so many varying scouting reports on a lot of prospects.Some of the guys they rank up near the top - have so many weaknesses you wonder why they're ranking them that high in these draft guides I buy.
I buy them more to get familiar with all the names and rankings. Then I go try to find the film.
I really appreciate what you and Mud contribute regarding the draft. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna get you back for busting my balls in my Perriman thread Tour.
The only question I have left after that - is Notre Dame stop calling themselves The Fighting Irish after they got run over by Peat? Thanks for the video link Tour! Impressive. You've made me a believer and I'm at the point where I'd rather see film when there's so many varying scouting reports on a lot of prospects.Some of the guys they rank up near the top - have so many weaknesses you wonder why they're ranking them that high in these draft guides I buy.
I buy them more to get familiar with all the names and rankings. Then I go try to find the film.
I really appreciate what you and Mud contribute regarding the draft. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna get you back for busting my balls in my Perriman thread Tour.
LOL... you're welcome... and you'll see that I was heavily editing my last Perriman reply as you copied it.
And, no... I had not looked back at your original post before I made the siesta crack... You can be succinct... Who knew?
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VesnaKociper said:
The Browns should draft all offensive linemen. Joe Thomas really lit the fucking place up. If we had four more of him, we might have gone to the SB this year.
I say, spend all our high end resources on more lardass OL. Those guys really make a big difference.
About time you came around...
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Tour was Schwartz bad enough last year to justify taking Peat at 12 or 19?
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Tour was Schwartz bad enough last year to justify taking Peat at 12 or 19?
Tour was Schwartz bad enough last year to justify taking Peat at 12 or 19?
IMO... no. While Mitch is still our weakest O-line link, he played more than well enough to keep RT well down our list of needs. My O-line priority this year would be inside depth. And while I know it's bad to love a player, I love Marpet.
Were Thomas a little closer to the end of his career, I would be very tempted by Peat's promise as our next LT. But Joe still has years to go. Also I don't see Mitch (or Andrus) thriving inside.
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Tour was Schwartz bad enough last year to justify taking Peat at 12 or 19?
IMO... no. While Mitch is still our weakest O-line link, he played more than well enough to keep RT well down our list of needs. My O-line priority this year would be inside depth. And while I know it's bad to love a player, I love Marpet.
Were Thomas a little closer to the end of his career, I would be very tempted by Peat's promise as our next LT. But Joe still has years to go. Also I don't see Mitch (or Andrus) thriving inside.
IMO... no. While Mitch is still our weakest O-line link, he played more than well enough to keep RT well down our list of needs. My O-line priority this year would be inside depth. And while I know it's bad to love a player, I love Marpet.
Were Thomas a little closer to the end of his career, I would be very tempted by Peat's promise as our next LT. But Joe still has years to go. Also I don't see Mitch (or Andrus) thriving inside.
Cool thanks, big fan of your stuff on this.
Looking forward to your review of Havenstein who has been talked up by some of the right people.
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Not sure if you are interested Tour but Ross Tucker and Greg Cossell have released a podcast today where they are discussing these O line prospects.
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Edit.
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Not sure if you are interested Tour but Ross Tucker and Greg Cossell have released a podcast today where they are discussing these O line prospects.
Not sure if you are interested Tour but Ross Tucker and Greg Cossell have released a podcast today where they are discussing these O line prospects.
Thanks... will give it a listen as clearly they are very astute talent evaluators...
http://podcastone.com/pg/jsp/program/episode.jsp?programID=583&pid=496940
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@LanceZierlein: After speaking with multiple teams, I have no doubt that Ced Ogbuiehi's ACL tear will NOT keep him out of the first round. He is going in the 1st.
@LanceZierlein: Regarding Ogbuehi, I have him being drafted ahead of Clemmings now. Will be on Path to the Draft on NFL Network today to talk shop.
Interesting
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VesnaKociper said:
The Browns should draft all offensive linemen. Joe Thomas really lit the fucking place up. If we had four more of him, we might have gone to the SB this year.
I say, spend all our high end resources on more lardass OL. Those guys really make a big difference.
I would rather that than spending first round picks on QBs and RBs that bust out completely. We would have been better off with an OLineman than the likes of Weeden/Richardson/Manziel.
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VesnaKociper said:
The Browns should draft all offensive linemen. Joe Thomas really lit the fucking place up. If we had four more of him, we might have gone to the SB this year.
I say, spend all our high end resources on more lardass OL. Those guys really make a big difference.
I would rather that than spending first round picks on QBs and RBs that bust out completely. We would have been better off with an OLineman than the likes of Weeden/Richardson/Manziel.
I would rather that than spending first round picks on QBs and RBs that bust out completely. We would have been better off with an OLineman than the likes of Weeden/Richardson/Manziel.
Well, we took Schwartz that year.
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@LanceZierlein: After speaking with multiple teams, I have no doubt that Ced Ogbuiehi's ACL tear will NOT keep him out of the first round. He is going in the 1st.
@LanceZierlein: Regarding Ogbuehi, I have him being drafted ahead of Clemmings now. Will be on Path to the Draft on NFL Network today to talk shop.
Interesting
@LanceZierlein: After speaking with multiple teams, I have no doubt that Ced Ogbuiehi's ACL tear will NOT keep him out of the first round. He is going in the 1st.
Has he been able to work out for any teams?
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No idea
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Did a little goggling and it does not appear that Cederic has been able to work out for any teams.
Also came across an article listing players each team has hosted and his name is missing.
Given the above, the injury and a very mixed senior season, spending a first on him would be a real leap of faith.
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I'm wondering if Mike Sherman put some calls in on Ced's behalf. The man wasn't much of a college coach but he could get Satan himself drafted much higher than he otherwise would have been.
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Tour was Schwartz bad enough last year to justify taking Peat at 12 or 19?
IMO... no. While Mitch is still our weakest O-line link, he played more than well enough to keep RT well down our list of needs. My O-line priority this year would be inside depth. And while I know it's bad to love a player, I love Marpet.
Were Thomas a little closer to the end of his career, I would be very tempted by Peat's promise as our next LT. But Joe still has years to go. Also I don't see Mitch (or Andrus) thriving inside.
IMO... no. While Mitch is still our weakest O-line link, he played more than well enough to keep RT well down our list of needs. My O-line priority this year would be inside depth. And while I know it's bad to love a player, I love Marpet.
Were Thomas a little closer to the end of his career, I would be very tempted by Peat's promise as our next LT. But Joe still has years to go. Also I don't see Mitch (or Andrus) thriving inside.
Even though Schwartz is a FA in 2016?? With Bowie, Seymour and A. McDonald behind Mitch?? Really liking Erving at 19 ( if there) with news on Mack at C and Cam has played C,G and T.. This old OL man will cheer it at
pick 19 with 50 others
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IMO... no. While Mitch is still our weakest O-line link, he played more than well enough to keep RT well down our list of needs. My O-line priority this year would be inside depth. And while I know it's bad to love a player, I love Marpet.
Were Thomas a little closer to the end of his career, I would be very tempted by Peat's promise as our next LT. But Joe still has years to go. Also I don't see Mitch (or Andrus) thriving inside.
Even though Schwartz is a FA in 2016?? With Bowie, Seymour and A. McDonald behind Mitch?? Really liking Erving at 19 ( if there) with news on Mack at C and Cam has played C,G and T.. This old OL man will cheer it at
pick 19 with 50 others
Even though Schwartz is a FA in 2016?? With Bowie, Seymour and A. McDonald behind Mitch?? Really liking Erving at 19 ( if there) with news on Mack at C and Cam has played C,G and T.. This old OL man will cheer it at pick 19 with 50 others
The original question was about taking Peat at 12 or 19. I've no idea what to expect of Bowie, but still I am less worried about RT depth than I am interior depth because I have seen our interior depth... except Painter.
Schwartz is not my FA concern. Mack is. Best thing we can do for Mack is show him that if the man to either side of him goes down then the "next man up" is not a stiff.
I like what I've seen of Erving, but feel he is an unnecessary reach at 19. I think there are better value picks later that give us the help we need.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
La'el Collins Take 2...
Just went looking for what I was "missing", did not find it. Simply not a ZBS candidate.
(04/17/15) vs. Florida & Arkansas: easily knocked off bal by lateral push when on run; cannot block faster D on the run, whiffs often; can handle smaller D-lineman across from him... some of the time... Pass Pro remains a liability with min kick-drop and too much bend.
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