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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @flugel said:

    Orchard has some numbers that pop off the chart like 18 sacks in 2014 so I'm stunned to see 0 tackles for a loss in the same season.

    I agree with much of what you said....except the part about him having no tackles for losses.....he had 21, which is a lot .....for anybody...

    Though, he is weak against the run...yes....but I think the Browns would be looking at him as more of a pass rush specialist

    @mudfly said:

    I agree with much of what you said....except the part about him having no tackles for losses.....he had 21, which is a lot .....for anybody...

    Though, he is weak against the run...yes....but I think the Browns would be looking at him as more of a pass rush specialist

    yeah but we dont need another mingo. We already have a strict will olb'er. We need a guy thats between mingo and kruger.
  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @mudfly said:

    I agree with much of what you said....except the part about him having no tackles for losses.....he had 21, which is a lot .....for anybody...

    Though, he is weak against the run...yes....but I think the Browns would be looking at him as more of a pass rush specialist

    I could never tell if he was "weak" against the run because of his assignments or playing strength and speed.

    The senior bowl showed he has all the ability to be a solid run defender. Also, if we take Gregory should he fall I will toss a chair through a window.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I could never tell if he was "weak" against the run because of his assignments or playing strength and speed.

    The senior bowl showed he has all the ability to be a solid run defender. Also, if we take Gregory should he fall I will toss a chair through a window.

    Yeah...I guess I should have said his strength is as a pass rusher, as opposed to saying he was weak against the run/////....cause there really isnt any film I can find that shows he's NOT good against the run......

    and, Im with you on Gregory..... Gordon has washed away my willingness to take a chance on known stoners....

    Dont want him at 12......and IF he's there at 19, then(before WE pick him) Id ask why 18 other teams had the discipline to pass

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @flugel said:

    Orchard has some numbers that pop off the chart like 18 sacks in 2014 so I'm stunned to see 0 tackles for a loss in the same season.

    I agree with much of what you said....except the part about him having no tackles for losses.....he had 21, which is a lot .....for anybody...

    Though, he is weak against the run...yes....but I think the Browns would be looking at him as more of a pass rush specialist

    @mudfly said:

    I agree with much of what you said....except the part about him having no tackles for losses.....he had 21, which is a lot .....for anybody...

    Though, he is weak against the run...yes....but I think the Browns would be looking at him as more of a pass rush specialist

    Thanks Mud! I thought it was pretty bizarre that somebody with that many sacks in 2014 (as well as 8.5 TFL in 2012 and again in 2013) had 0 TFL last year. 18 sacks and 21 TFL are impressive.

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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @mudfly said:

    I agree with much of what you said....except the part about him having no tackles for losses.....he had 21, which is a lot .....for anybody...

    Though, he is weak against the run...yes....but I think the Browns would be looking at him as more of a pass rush specialist

    Thanks Mud! I thought it was pretty bizarre that somebody with that many sacks in 2014 (as well as 8.5 TFL in 2012 and again in 2013) had 0 TFL last year. 18 sacks and 21 TFL are impressive.

    @flugel said:

    Thanks Mud! I thought it was pretty bizarre that somebody with that many sacks in 2014 (as well as 8.5 TFL in 2012 and again in 2013) had 0 TFL last year. 18 sacks and 21 TFL are impressive.

    no sweat...a lot of the sites have fairly incomplete stats on these guys....

    Looked at Orchard more closely this week and he looks pretty good.....but I love D, so really want all these guys...🙂

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Still hoping to see one more 3-down OLB in my lifetime...

    @texasag1969 said:

    4. Do NOT let the glitz of a glamor "masterstroke" deter you from staying within that plan. You know, like going after someone that seemed a "reach" but somehow has fallen from grace from the teams above you.

    If they have not thought through the possibilities of players falling towards them, then they have not planned. I'm betting that they have.

    @tour2ma said:

    If they have not thought through the possibilities of players falling towards them, then they have not planned. I'm betting that they have.

    Just do not want a repeat of the JM thing believe it or not. We "reached" when he fell our way only to find out this year that there was a reason that most of us, including the Browns FO, had little foreknowledge.

  • I like Dupree much more than Orchard. If the Browns nabbed Dupree

    and Brown with their first two picks, I'd love that.

    Then OL in the second round, and some "under the radar" wr in the third.

    Closer and closer to the draft.

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  • C calfoxwc

    I like Dupree much more than Orchard. If the Browns nabbed Dupree

    and Brown with their first two picks, I'd love that.

    Then OL in the second round, and some "under the radar" wr in the third.

    Closer and closer to the draft.

    @calfoxwc said:

    I like Dupree much more than Orchard. If the Browns nabbed Dupree

    and Brown with their first two picks, I'd love that.

    Closer and closer to the draft.

    I think it could be Dupree 'or" Shelton at #12.......but he's not gonna make it to 19....

    Orchard is in my grouping for our second round pick, if we dont tap a OLB in the first......

    Im like you.....tick tick tick

  • Yup bring it on...

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  • Can't wait either. Me and a few mates get together for the first round that night (late here) take the next day off work and play some golf or snooker. Then back at a friends house for rounds 2-3.

    Last year I should have been very excited but I never wanted JM, was praying we were taking Teddy with that pick.

  • L LondonBrown

    Can't wait either. Me and a few mates get together for the first round that night (late here) take the next day off work and play some golf or snooker. Then back at a friends house for rounds 2-3.

    Last year I should have been very excited but I never wanted JM, was praying we were taking Teddy with that pick.

    @londonbrown said:

    was praying we were taking Teddy with that pick.

    in hindsight thought, without all kind of man-love involved, wouldn't the wise choice have been derek carr?

    everyone here hypes bridgewater and watkins like they were some saviors. meanwhile carr and evans were the most solid at their positions coming in as rookies.

    i don't get the gay love.

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @londonbrown said:

    was praying we were taking Teddy with that pick.

    in hindsight thought, without all kind of man-love involved, wouldn't the wise choice have been derek carr?

    everyone here hypes bridgewater and watkins like they were some saviors. meanwhile carr and evans were the most solid at their positions coming in as rookies.

    i don't get the gay love.

    @miktoxic said:

    in hindsight thought, without all kind of man-love involved, wouldn't the wise choice have been derek carr?

    everyone here hypes bridgewater and watkins like they were some saviors. meanwhile carr and evans were the most solid at their positions coming in as rookies.

    i don't get the gay love.

    Most solid at their positions? I'd take TB over DC at their position any day. Luck of the draw... Ya, probably
  • ComeonmanC Comeonman

    @miktoxic said:

    in hindsight thought, without all kind of man-love involved, wouldn't the wise choice have been derek carr?

    everyone here hypes bridgewater and watkins like they were some saviors. meanwhile carr and evans were the most solid at their positions coming in as rookies.

    i don't get the gay love.

    Most solid at their positions? I'd take TB over DC at their position any day. Luck of the draw... Ya, probably

    @comeonman said:

    Most solid at their positions? I'd take TB over DC at their position any day. Luck of the draw... Ya, probably

    ok, one set records for rookie passing for his team and one likes to dress like a woman.

    ComeonmanC 1 Reply

  • I'd take a guy who crossdressed for a class over a guy who talks about Jesus all the time.

  • i don't care if he prays to satan and talks about it if he had a rookie performance like carr.

    in the end he outdid teddy.

    btw, these brown's fans that still pine over bridgewater and watkins........... it's turned into pure gayness.

  • I guess that's why Derek Carr won rookie of the year

  • you love you some teddy huh royce?

    hint: (he plays for the vikings)

  • I liked him as a prospect, wanted the Browns to draft him, but that ship has sailed. For all I know he could break his leg next year and never be the same a la RG3. None of that matters though as the Browns traded up to draft Johnny with teddy and Derek (and jimmy) still on the board.

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @comeonman said:

    Most solid at their positions? I'd take TB over DC at their position any day. Luck of the draw... Ya, probably

    ok, one set records for rookie passing for his team and one likes to dress like a woman.

    @miktoxic said:

    ok, one set records for rookie passing for his team and one likes to dress like a woman.

    Ok, misread your post (drunk as fuck watching the NC game last night). Now, yes I would def take DC. Coming out of the draft I liked the cross dresser more
  • R RoyceRolls

    I liked him as a prospect, wanted the Browns to draft him, but that ship has sailed. For all I know he could break his leg next year and never be the same a la RG3. None of that matters though as the Browns traded up to draft Johnny with teddy and Derek (and jimmy) still on the board.

    @roycerolls said:

    as the Browns traded up to draft Johnny with teddy and Derek (and jimmy) still on the board.

    i think we all regret that move.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @londonbrown said:

    was praying we were taking Teddy with that pick.

    in hindsight thought, without all kind of man-love involved, wouldn't the wise choice have been derek carr?

    everyone here hypes bridgewater and watkins like they were some saviors. meanwhile carr and evans were the most solid at their positions coming in as rookies.

    i don't get the gay love.

    @miktoxic said:

    in hindsight thought, without all kind of man-love involved, wouldn't the wise choice have been derek carr?

    everyone here hypes bridgewater and watkins like they were some saviors. meanwhile carr and evans were the most solid at their positions coming in as rookies.

    i don't get the gay love.

    I am talking how I felt at the time not now.....that said I am not convinced by Carr yet either. Nor Teddy.

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