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  • OldBrownsFan OldBrownsFanO
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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/04/is_hostility_to_christianity_driving_devout_believers_out_of_the_military.html

    Just another sad example of political correctness taking control over every area. The left are free thinkers as long as you think just like them. As the Christians leave the military I hate to think about what is replacing them?

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      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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      But those gay orgies going on in Iraq under Bush were really Christian? The president has nothing to do with this.

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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        The first Christians who ever witnessed to me I met in the military. I liked them but I did not understand them (I do now). They had the freedom though to share their faith back in the 70's. When the ship was out to sea they had bible studies and they were not under any pressure not to share their faith. That environment seems to be gone now.

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          But those gay orgies going on in Iraq under Bush were really Christian? The president has nothing to do with this.

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          @clevfan4life said:

          But those gay orgies going on in Iraq under Bush were really Christian? The president has nothing to do with this.

          Really? I thought the president was the commander in, oh, gee whiz, what's the word??

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            This was backlash against the compulsory Christian services military personnel were forced to attend for years. Big article about this 5 or so years ago where military people were coming home from Iraq saying we were "forced" to attend Christian services where we were forced to read from the bible. Even had quizzes about certain sections of the bible to make sure they were reading it on their spare time. I don't know what happened to just quietly going about your own business. If people want to attend Christian services that's their business, or whatever services they want to attend...or don't want to attend.

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              @clevfan4life said:

              But those gay orgies going on in Iraq under Bush were really Christian? The president has nothing to do with this.

              Really? I thought the president was the commander in, oh, gee whiz, what's the word??

              WSS

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              @westside-steve said:

              Really? I thought the president was the commander in, oh, gee whiz, what's the word??

              WSS

              Do you think presidents are micro managing at this level? You think Obama gave the military an edict that thou shalt repress Christians when probably at least 80% of military personnel are Christians? Be serious for once.

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                got proof? At least a link to a questionable website?

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Really? I thought the president was the commander in, oh, gee whiz, what's the word??

                  WSS

                  Do you think presidents are micro managing at this level? You think Obama gave the military an edict that thou shalt repress Christians when probably at least 80% of military personnel are Christians? Be serious for once.

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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  Do you think presidents are micro managing at this level? You think Obama gave the military an edict that thou shalt repress Christians when probably at least 80% of military personnel are Christians? Be serious for once.

                  You're the guy claiming the president has got his finger on every button for every situation in the country. I'm the one who says the simpleton plays golf and let's someone else take care of the real work.

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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    Do you think presidents are micro managing at this level? You think Obama gave the military an edict that thou shalt repress Christians when probably at least 80% of military personnel are Christians? Be serious for once.

                    You're the guy claiming the president has got his finger on every button for every situation in the country. I'm the one who says the simpleton plays golf and let's someone else take care of the real work.

                    😁

                    WSS

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                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                    @westside-steve said:

                    You're the guy claiming the president has got his finger on every button for every situation in the country.

                    😁

                    WSS

                    Nope never said that. Never said the POTUS micro manages everything. But, if he delegates certain responsibilities he is responsible to an extent. Again unless I hear otherwise, like some kind of proof, I find it hard to believe that the president is sending edicts to the military about how they should worship. It's possible that some military lawyers advised the govt that the current state of almost enforcing Christianity in the military was a bad idea and would lead to trouble down the road.

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      You're the guy claiming the president has got his finger on every button for every situation in the country.

                      😁

                      WSS

                      Nope never said that. Never said the POTUS micro manages everything. But, if he delegates certain responsibilities he is responsible to an extent. Again unless I hear otherwise, like some kind of proof, I find it hard to believe that the president is sending edicts to the military about how they should worship. It's possible that some military lawyers advised the govt that the current state of almost enforcing Christianity in the military was a bad idea and would lead to trouble down the road.

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                      @clevfan4life said:

                      Nope never said that. Never said the POTUS micro manages everything. But, if he delegates certain responsibilities he is responsible to an extent. Again unless I hear otherwise, like some kind of proof, I find it hard to believe that the president is sending edicts to the military about how they should worship. It's possible that some military lawyers advised the govt that the current state of almost enforcing Christianity in the military was a bad idea and would lead to trouble down the road.

                      I can feel safe in saying you never served in the military. I was in the Air Force for seven years, which is not much next to diehard, but enough to know they don't force Christianity on anyone and are inclusive of all religions.

                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        This was backlash against the compulsory Christian services military personnel were forced to attend for years. Big article about this 5 or so years ago where military people were coming home from Iraq saying we were "forced" to attend Christian services where we were forced to read from the bible. Even had quizzes about certain sections of the bible to make sure they were reading it on their spare time. I don't know what happened to just quietly going about your own business. If people want to attend Christian services that's their business, or whatever services they want to attend...or don't want to attend.

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                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        @clevfan4life said:

                        This was backlash against the compulsory Christian services military personnel were forced to attend for years. Big article about this 5 or so years ago where military people were coming home from Iraq saying we were "forced" to attend Christian services where we were forced to read from the bible. Even had quizzes about certain sections of the bible to make sure they were reading it on their spare time. I don't know what happened to just quietly going about your own business. If people want to attend Christian services that's their business, or whatever services they want to attend...or don't want to attend.

                        You're full of shit as usual. I spent 22 years in and was never 'forced' to attend any religious service.

                        "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          So is that article just referencing theoretical situations and anecdotal evidence?

                          I also like the story about how moms and dads don't want their kids joining the military now. Lol. Like THIS is what did it...

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                            mohicanM mohican wrote on last edited by
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                            If you insist on that sort of sedition, Woody there are a few here that will brand you a traitor. Your Blue M will be overlayed with a crimpson T.

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                              @clevfan4life said:

                              This was backlash against the compulsory Christian services military personnel were forced to attend for years. Big article about this 5 or so years ago where military people were coming home from Iraq saying we were "forced" to attend Christian services where we were forced to read from the bible. Even had quizzes about certain sections of the bible to make sure they were reading it on their spare time. I don't know what happened to just quietly going about your own business. If people want to attend Christian services that's their business, or whatever services they want to attend...or don't want to attend.

                              You're full of shit as usual. I spent 22 years in and was never 'forced' to attend any religious service.

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                              @diehardbrownsfan said:

                              You're full of shit as usual. I spent 22 years in and was never 'forced' to attend any religious service.

                              Took me all of 3 seconds to land articles from 08-010 about people being punished for not attending Christian rock concerts where the entire company was told to form up and march to the event. That wasn't even the big article I read back in 04 or 05 that was written by the Times that dealt with more serious events. I'd paste the links here but this site won't let me. So you'll have to google yourself.

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                                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                                You're full of shit as usual. I spent 22 years in and was never 'forced' to attend any religious service.

                                Took me all of 3 seconds to land articles from 08-010 about people being punished for not attending Christian rock concerts where the entire company was told to form up and march to the event. That wasn't even the big article I read back in 04 or 05 that was written by the Times that dealt with more serious events. I'd paste the links here but this site won't let me. So you'll have to google yourself.

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                                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by DieHardBrownsFan
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                                @clevfan4life said:

                                Took me all of 3 seconds to land articles from 08-010 about people being punished for not attending Christian rock concerts where the entire company was told to form up and march to the event. That wasn't even the big article I read back in 04 or 05 that was written by the Times that dealt with more serious events. I'd paste the links here but this site won't let me. So you'll have to google yourself.

                                You're full of shit. I read the articles. A few 'atheist' soldiers complained that they were forced to go to a concert. Sounds like a load of shit to me. No proof of anything again mental midget.

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                                  Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                  I would be mad to. Christian rock music sucks. 😛

                                  "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                    and the officer that provoked that complaint was in serious trouble,

                                    because that violates the UCMJ.

                                    The problem I had in the AF, tech school, was I got in deep do for GOING

                                    to church retreats.

                                    I'd told that story before. And the nutjob master sgt who provoked my solution?

                                    Ended up in big, serious trouble. The UCMJ rules.

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                                      I would be mad to. Christian rock music sucks. 😛

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                                      @browns149 said:

                                      I would be mad to. Christian rock music sucks. 😛

                                      its more like praise and worship - and its actually very good!

                                      but if you were talking Stryper, then well.....

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                                        @browns149 said:

                                        I would be mad to. Christian rock music sucks. 😛

                                        its more like praise and worship - and its actually very good!

                                        but if you were talking Stryper, then well.....

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                                        @fairhooker11 said:

                                        its more like praise and worship - and its actually very good!

                                        but if you were talking Stryper, then well.....

                                        Stryper, is about all I know about it, so my previous statement stands

                                        "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                          So is that article just referencing theoretical situations and anecdotal evidence?

                                          I also like the story about how moms and dads don't want their kids joining the military now. Lol. Like THIS is what did it...

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          So is that article just referencing theoretical situations and anecdotal evidence?

                                          I also like the story about how moms and dads don't want their kids joining the military now. Lol. Like THIS is what did it...

                                          then you must be referring to the fact that many parents think that the (-ahem) commander in chief does not have the military (their kids)

                                          best interests at heart?

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