Jaws: Sources saying Mariota will go #1 to Tampa
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I watched the Gruden QB camp with Mariota and Winston last night and gotta say that Mariota was a total dud....he seemed so low key he was almost asleep.....
not sure how that translates to the NFL, but for me, it seemed like he had zero fire in his belly....not a drop....ho hum....
I haven't watched the "Big 2" w/ Chuckie yet...
Did you catch Petty's? Showed some rough edges, but also a ton of personality wrapped around confidence and love of the game. I really like him in the 3rd, but have a feeling he goes in the second. If we trade down a first, I'd spend a 2nd on him.
I haven't watched the "Big 2" w/ Chuckie yet...
Did you catch Petty's? Showed some rough edges, but also a ton of personality wrapped around confidence and love of the game. I really like him in the 3rd, but have a feeling he goes in the second. If we trade down a first, I'd spend a 2nd on him.
If we go QB he is my favorite choice.. Bills are high on this Kid also. 2nd round sounds right now, after pick 12 its going to get wild on the board.
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I watched the Gruden QB camp with Mariota and Winston last night and gotta say that Mariota was a total dud....he seemed so low key he was almost asleep.....
not sure how that translates to the NFL, but for me, it seemed like he had zero fire in his belly....not a drop....ho hum....
I haven't watched the "Big 2" w/ Chuckie yet...
Did you catch Petty's? Showed some rough edges, but also a ton of personality wrapped around confidence and love of the game. I really like him in the 3rd, but have a feeling he goes in the second. If we trade down a first, I'd spend a 2nd on him.
I haven't watched the "Big 2" w/ Chuckie yet...
Did you catch Petty's? Showed some rough edges, but also a ton of personality wrapped around confidence and love of the game. I really like him in the 3rd, but have a feeling he goes in the second. If we trade down a first, I'd spend a 2nd on him.
Yes....and Im completely 100% on board with picking Petty......Id say, right now, he is my favorite for the Brownies...........
i wouldn't call mariota a dud. i saw the gruden camp thing and all i'd say is people are wired different. i just saw a humble, gracious and well mannered kid.
did fine on the field and on the chalk board. gruden can't expect every QB he does this on to be jumping out of his coffee cup like he is.
He seemed humble, gracious, intelligent, etc.....looks like a great guy....probably would let him date my daughter
but, yes, he's wired differently........just not wired the way I'd expect a strong leader of men to be wired...thats all.....
seems like a "good soldier".....just not a general.........
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If the Browns trade up for either of these two clowns rather than build the team inside out, then GM needs a new home and a Wonderlic retest.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/erica-kinsman-sues-nfl-prospect-jameis-winston/2225851
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I watched the Gruden QB camp with Mariota and Winston last night and gotta say that Mariota was a total dud....he seemed so low key he was almost asleep.....
not sure how that translates to the NFL, but for me, it seemed like he had zero fire in his belly....not a drop....ho hum....
I haven't watched the "Big 2" w/ Chuckie yet...
Did you catch Petty's? Showed some rough edges, but also a ton of personality wrapped around confidence and love of the game. I really like him in the 3rd, but have a feeling he goes in the second. If we trade down a first, I'd spend a 2nd on him.
I haven't watched the "Big 2" w/ Chuckie yet...
Did you catch Petty's? Showed some rough edges, but also a ton of personality wrapped around confidence and love of the game. I really like him in the 3rd, but have a feeling he goes in the second. If we trade down a first, I'd spend a 2nd on him.
Didn't see that one, but did catch Petty's interview on ESPN radio with Freddie Coleman. He sure sounds impressive enough- has the desire, and said all the right things.
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If the Browns trade up for either of these two clowns rather than build the team inside out, then GM needs a new home and a Wonderlic retest.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/erica-kinsman-sues-nfl-prospect-jameis-winston/2225851
If the Browns trade up for either of these two clowns rather than build the team inside out, then GM needs a new home and a Wonderlic retest.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/erica-kinsman-sues-nfl-prospect-jameis-winston/2225851
I agree Ag- to move up high enough to get either one, it will cost both of this year's firsts, plus next years. Not worth it. I'd rather stick with Johnny Rehab this year to see if he's turned a new leaf- and if he flops, go qb shopping next year. Hmmm the Steelers followed that exact scenario when they took Rothlisberger last- when everything else was in place.
"Crabby" Jameis is smiling away- like nothing ever happened in college. I've said all along Mariota is just a bigger version of Johnny Football with the same question marks- minus the off-field issues.
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If the Browns trade up for either of these two clowns rather than build the team inside out, then GM needs a new home and a Wonderlic retest.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/erica-kinsman-sues-nfl-prospect-jameis-winston/2225851
I agree Ag- to move up high enough to get either one, it will cost both of this year's firsts, plus next years. Not worth it. I'd rather stick with Johnny Rehab this year to see if he's turned a new leaf- and if he flops, go qb shopping next year. Hmmm the Steelers followed that exact scenario when they took Rothlisberger last- when everything else was in place.
"Crabby" Jameis is smiling away- like nothing ever happened in college. I've said all along Mariota is just a bigger version of Johnny Football with the same question marks- minus the off-field issues.
I agree Ag- to move up high enough to get either one, it will cost both of this year's firsts, plus next years. Not worth it. I'd rather stick with Johnny Rehab this year to see if he's turned a new leaf- and if he flops, go qb shopping next year. Hmmm the Steelers followed that exact scenario when they took Rothlisberger last- when everything else was in place.
"Crabby" Jameis is smiling away- like nothing ever happened in college. I've said all along Mariota is just a bigger version of Johnny Football with the same question marks- minus the off-field issues.
Or go with Hundley in round 3.
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While I'm not as impressed on tape as Tour is with Petty (is footwork does sharpen up quite a bit in some instances, but its his eyes and head that worry me) the gleam he gets when talking about the QB position. That's a natural leader I'd be willing to follow. You might be surprised how much that means in a huddle.
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While I'm not as impressed on tape as Tour is with Petty (is footwork does sharpen up quite a bit in some instances, but its his eyes and head that worry me) the gleam he gets when talking about the QB position. That's a natural leader I'd be willing to follow. You might be surprised how much that means in a huddle.
While I'm not as impressed on tape as Tour is with Petty (is footwork does sharpen up quite a bit in some instances, but its his eyes and head that worry me) the gleam he gets when talking about the QB position. That's a natural leader I'd be willing to follow. You might be surprised how much that means in a huddle.
Well said. It means a ton Tia.
I get the impression a lot of concerns people have with him can be corrected via coaching and experience. He's an intriguing prospect; but there needs to be an element of patience early on. That's the thing about the QB position and this draft. I'm worried about us reaching for him with our 19th pick when we can prolly snag him in round 2 or so. The last time we drafted a Big 12 QB in round 1 (Weeden) - we swung from our ass and missed while bargains like Russell Wilson and Nick Foles landed on other teams' door steps.
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is there really that much of a difference between grayson, petty and hundley?
as far as confidence and being able to lead a team i think they all have that.
check one.
the physicality of each, aren't the pretty much the same size with grayson being the smaller of the 3?
now the athletic ability is where there might be a difference but it would depend on what the franchise that drafts these players are looking for.
if everyone thinks that winston and mariota are the only game in town this year they are highly mistaken.
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is there really that much of a difference between grayson, petty and hundley?
as far as confidence and being able to lead a team i think they all have that.
check one.
the physicality of each, aren't the pretty much the same size with grayson being the smaller of the 3?
now the athletic ability is where there might be a difference but it would depend on what the franchise that drafts these players are looking for.
if everyone thinks that winston and mariota are the only game in town this year they are highly mistaken.
is there really that much of a difference between grayson, petty and hundley?
as far as confidence and being able to lead a team i think they all have that.
check one.
the physicality of each, aren't the pretty much the same size with grayson being the smaller of the 3?
now the athletic ability is where there might be a difference but it would depend on what the franchise that drafts these players are looking for.
if everyone thinks that winston and mariota are the only game in town this year they are highly mistaken.
I think Petty and Hundley both possess that leadership aspect, while Grayson may be sliiiightly more quick-minded on the field.
I would not mind Petty in round 2, but I'd be much happier to get him in Round 3.
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I was high on MM last year and still like him over any of the others. I compare his low key boring demeanor to russell Wilson and I think he is all business like Wilson too. He should be successful at the Next level.
But I see some value in petty in the mid rounds. 6'3 230 is a nice frame. But how quickly is he going to pick up the offense or can he is the biggest factor. But I fully expect the browns to take a look at him and trade back into the late 2nd round to land petty if they like what they see.
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