Free Agent Signing Thread
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Wow - 6 pages of free agent signings! The Browns front office must have been on fire. I'm just catching up now.
Good for you guys! I'm sure all of these new players will be an improvement over last year's team.
Seriously, with so many needs on the Browns I'm a bit shocked that there's been next to NO action by the Browns front office. There were lots of guys available who would have been big improvements to the team. I have to assume they WANTED certain players but struck out.
But that being said, its 1 week into free agency. Yes, with a team as bad as the Browns you'd expect them to be shopping early - but there's still plenty of good middle class players yet to be signed by anyone. That type of depth winds up being VERY important in the long run.
The lack of action tells me that the Browns are in for another tough season - but if they play their cards right with trades and signing quality middle class players who begin to learn the system, by 2010 there might be a good foundation to build upon.
Wow - 6 pages of free agent signings! The Browns front office must have been on fire. I'm just catching up now.
Good for you guys! I'm sure all of these new players will be an improvement over last year's team.
Seriously, with so many needs on the Browns I'm a bit shocked that there's been next to NO action by the Browns front office. There were lots of guys available who would have been big improvements to the team. I have to assume they WANTED certain players but struck out.
But that being said, its 1 week into free agency. Yes, with a team as bad as the Browns you'd expect them to be shopping early - but there's still plenty of good middle class players yet to be signed by anyone. That type of depth winds up being VERY important in the long run.
The lack of action tells me that the Browns are in for another tough season - but if they play their cards right with trades and signing quality middle class players who begin to learn the system, by 2010 there might be a good foundation to build upon.
You being here tells me your mom must be out to bingo tonight. Remember to sign off by 9:00.
What a troll.....................................
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Was talking to a good friend today, and Eagles fan. Says Sean Jones will be in tomorrow, and after losing Dawkins, he's really excited to hear that.
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This might sound like nitpicking, but can someone rationally explain why we just spent $10 million with $3 guaranteed for a guy like Royal? Honestly, you can get Krause or Sleestak off the last two camp rosters for league minimum.
Is there something so special about him or what? The league is chock full of these types of TE's, so why the hell would we overpay for one?
It just seems like stupid spending to me. I know it's not a ton, but Royal is not going to do diddly to upgrade TE, he's there to basically take over Dinkins' role and provide insurance if Heiden can't get ready or Rucker turns out to suck. Personally, I want to see Rucker get a real shot this year and not at the expense of someone like Royal playing to earn his contract.
Like I said, there will be guys getting cut from camps that are probably every bit of the player Royal is. Just because it's not huge spending like Steinbach etc., it still doesn't mean that it's not pissing cap money away IMO.
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This might sound like nitpicking, but can someone rationally explain why we just spent $10 million with $3 guaranteed for a guy like Royal? Honestly, you can get Krause or Sleestak off the last two camp rosters for league minimum.
Is there something so special about him or what? The league is chock full of these types of TE's, so why the hell would we overpay for one?
It just seems like stupid spending to me. I know it's not a ton, but Royal is not going to do diddly to upgrade TE, he's there to basically take over Dinkins' role and provide insurance if Heiden can't get ready or Rucker turns out to suck. Personally, I want to see Rucker get a real shot this year and not at the expense of someone like Royal playing to earn his contract.
Like I said, there will be guys getting cut from camps that are probably every bit of the player Royal is. Just because it's not huge spending like Steinbach etc., it still doesn't mean that it's not pissing cap money away IMO.
This might sound like nitpicking, but can someone rationally explain why we just spent $10 million with $3 guaranteed for a guy like Royal? Honestly, you can get Krause or Sleestak off the last two camp rosters for league minimum.
Is there something so special about him or what? The league is chock full of these types of TE's, so why the hell would we overpay for one?
It just seems like stupid spending to me. I know it's not a ton, but Royal is not going to do diddly to upgrade TE, he's there to basically take over Dinkins' role and provide insurance if Heiden can't get ready or Rucker turns out to suck. Personally, I want to see Rucker get a real shot this year and not at the expense of someone like Royal playing to earn his contract.
Like I said, there will be guys getting cut from camps that are probably every bit of the player Royal is. Just because it's not huge spending like Steinbach etc., it still doesn't mean that it's not pissing cap money away IMO.
As you mentioned, Heiden coming off a torn ACL; that pretty much explains this move. We needed a proven starting TE in case Heiden suffers a setback, and Dinkins doesn't have the kind of starting experience Royal has. Like you, I want to see a lot of Rucker, but he's not (and may never be) the kind of in-line blocker we need to bolster our run game. If he's an every down TE for us, it could weaken our offense.
Also, Royal's known to be a great character guy. He should be a solid veteran influence, perhaps helping guys like Rucker develop into solid pro's.
And I don't have a problem with the contract numbers. One thing the guys over at the OBR criticized Savage for was throwing tons of money at big FA's, then low-balling and losing out on solid mid-level guys. Fortunately, it looks like Kokinis isn't repeating Savage's mistakes.
Considering how bad we were last year, we may need to pay a little bit more to bring in some of these guys, but Royal's deal seems reasonable to me. Hopefully, he'll earn his play by contributing on the field and keeping things classy in the locker room.
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All makes good sense Alo, as long as Rucker gets a real shot. Is it possible Rucker doesn't even fit into Mankok's plans?
Rucker was taken to supplement Winslow as a receiving/slot guy, but I'm not so sure that Mangini has any use for this type of TE.
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Wow - 6 pages of free agent signings! The Browns front office must have been on fire. I'm just catching up now.
Good for you guys! I'm sure all of these new players will be an improvement over last year's team.
Seriously, with so many needs on the Browns I'm a bit shocked that there's been next to NO action by the Browns front office. There were lots of guys available who would have been big improvements to the team. I have to assume they WANTED certain players but struck out.
But that being said, its 1 week into free agency. Yes, with a team as bad as the Browns you'd expect them to be shopping early - but there's still plenty of good middle class players yet to be signed by anyone. That type of depth winds up being VERY important in the long run.
The lack of action tells me that the Browns are in for another tough season - but if they play their cards right with trades and signing quality middle class players who begin to learn the system, by 2010 there might be a good foundation to build upon.
You being here tells me your mom must be out to bingo tonight. Remember to sign off by 9:00.
What a troll.....................................
You being here tells me your mom must be out to bingo tonight. Remember to sign off by 9:00.
What a troll.....................................
yeah, it must suck to have "trolls" come here to say that there's no reason to worry about the silence from your team's front office in the first week. The nerve of people like me.
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All makes good sense Alo, as long as Rucker gets a real shot. Is it possible Rucker doesn't even fit into Mankok's plans?
Rucker was taken to supplement Winslow as a receiving/slot guy, but I'm not so sure that Mangini has any use for this type of TE.
All makes good sense Alo, as long as Rucker gets a real shot. Is it possible Rucker doesn't even fit into Mankok's plans?
Rucker was taken to supplement Winslow as a receiving/slot guy, but I'm not so sure that Mangini has any use for this type of TE.
Could be. Josh McDaniels is said to be to shopping TE Tony Scheffler, who's a very similar type of player. Assuming Daboll's system doesn't differ too much from the New England offense, Rucker may be an equally poor fit.
This was actually something that was brought up when the Pioli-Ferentz rumors were circling. Ferentz's Shanahan-style WCO would have been a good fit for Winslow and Rucker, and his zone blocking scheme would have been great for Thomas, Steinbach, and Shaffer. Instead, we're heading in the New England direction, like Denver did, and some more offensive pieces may have to be discarded.
Hopefully, Rucker isn't one of them.
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All makes good sense Alo, as long as Rucker gets a real shot. Is it possible Rucker doesn't even fit into Mankok's plans?
Rucker was taken to supplement Winslow as a receiving/slot guy, but I'm not so sure that Mangini has any use for this type of TE.
Could be. Josh McDaniels is said to be to shopping TE Tony Scheffler, who's a very similar type of player. Assuming Daboll's system doesn't differ too much from the New England offense, Rucker may be an equally poor fit.
This was actually something that was brought up when the Pioli-Ferentz rumors were circling. Ferentz's Shanahan-style WCO would have been a good fit for Winslow and Rucker, and his zone blocking scheme would have been great for Thomas, Steinbach, and Shaffer. Instead, we're heading in the New England direction, like Denver did, and some more offensive pieces may have to be discarded.
Hopefully, Rucker isn't one of them.
Aloysius said:
Could be. Josh McDaniels is said to be to shopping TE Tony Scheffler, who's a very similar type of player. Assuming Daboll's system doesn't differ too much from the New England offense, Rucker may be an equally poor fit.This was actually something that was brought up when the Pioli-Ferentz rumors were circling. Ferentz's Shanahan-style WCO would have been a good fit for Winslow and Rucker, and his zone blocking scheme would have been great for Thomas, Steinbach, and Shaffer. Instead, we're heading in the New England direction, like Denver did, and some more offensive pieces may have to be discarded.
Hopefully, Rucker isn't one of them.
And this is why I wasn't gung ho over Ferentz-Pioli. For one, I don't like the idea of Ferentz coming back to the NFL after being out of the pro game. It just reeked of stupidity and the buddy system, not to mention he's really not that young of a coach.
Two, I would never want to morph into a soft, zone team in this division and climate. The Browns need an identity desperately, and one that evolves around physicality and hitting is the most desired for success IMO. This division is about who is the toughest man to man, not west coast blocking schemes of sliding into people's way. I have a feeling this would get slaughtered by Pitt and Bmore, not to mention the use of TE's as glorified third receivers who can't block. Why not just use an actual real receiver and the fact that Winslow was declining so fast is no need to hope for that style of coach.
Give me the tough approach and old school style any day. Besides, the oline zone blocking is not as unique anymore as at least 6 teams are now implementing it regularly.
Hey, it's not like Rucker will be the make or break guy to the season, but it just pisses me off that we drafted this guy last year and then never really took a look at him once he got healthy. Just typical dysfunctional organization type stuff and now we have someone else running the ship with their own idea. He'll probably go down as another wasted Savage pick round 4 and up.
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Do you think we need more guys like this??????
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OWENS signs with seattle!!!!!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seah...502_hawk06.html
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OWENS signs with seattle!!!!!
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seah...502_hawk06.html
nmills said:
OWENS signs with seattle!!!!!http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seah...502_hawk06.html
hehehe
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AdaM said:
I guess you figured out what was going on nmills?I saw your post before you deleted it lol
yea lol
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lol.
I'd be pissed if I was Housh and TO came to Seattle.
Sharing #1 with one egotistical wide reciever - shame on me.
Sharing #1 with another egotisitical wide reciever - shame on you.
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bryant mcfadden signed with the cardinals
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the browns hosted abram elam today. he was a UDFA out of college, and because he's a RFA who received the lowest tender, the jets aren't in line for compensation if we sign him, they only have the right to match whatever contract we offer him. elam had 69 tackles (48 solo), two sacks, two stuffs, three forced fumbles, one pick and three passes defensed this past season.
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That's good, 'cuz James Butler signed with the Rams.
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Dacaddyman said:
Why can't we bring in Chris McAlister to play safety???Is McAlister still a free agent????
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