The Ben Carson is a great American and should be president thread
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And has any modern day Republican been as closely tied to a church even nearly as offensive as the one the president chose of his own free will?
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And has any modern day Republican been as closely tied to a church even nearly as offensive and un Christian as the one the current president chose of his own free will?
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Not in high, visible office.
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And has any modern day Republican been as closely tied to a church even nearly as offensive as the one the president chose of his own free will?
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Couldn't really tell ya, because usually religion and where one chooses to worship is low on my reasons to vote for a candidate. Though common sense involving science is a major reason to vote for a candidate.
Couldn't really tell ya, because usually religion and where one chooses to worship is low on my reasons to vote for a candidate. Though common sense involving science is a major reason to vote for a candidate.
Unless it comes in the form of digging up reasons to vote against Republicans I guess...

WSS
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Couldn't really tell ya, because usually religion and where one chooses to worship is low on my reasons to vote for a candidate. Though common sense involving science is a major reason to vote for a candidate.
Unless it comes in the form of digging up reasons to vote against Republicans I guess...

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Unless it comes in the form of digging up reasons to vote against Republicans I guess...

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See your the one who is trying to make me sound anti-republican, I would vote against a dem that has the same lack of common sense(I am an independent that leans dem). When you run for president, anything you have said...ever gets brought to the front.
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Unless it comes in the form of digging up reasons to vote against Republicans I guess...

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See your the one who is trying to make me sound anti-republican, I would vote against a dem that has the same lack of common sense(I am an independent that leans dem). When you run for president, anything you have said...ever gets brought to the front.
See your the one who is trying to make me sound anti-republican, I would vote against a dem that has the same lack of common sense(I am an independent that leans dem). When you run for president, anything you have said...ever gets brought to the front.
But that's what this whole thing is about. Dr Carson is a conservative and would run as a Republican so bitter atheists like Woody are angry about his Christian beliefs even though the Christian beliefs of Barack Obama don't bother them. That's all.
WSS
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See your the one who is trying to make me sound anti-republican, I would vote against a dem that has the same lack of common sense(I am an independent that leans dem). When you run for president, anything you have said...ever gets brought to the front.
But that's what this whole thing is about. Dr Carson is a conservative and would run as a Republican so bitter atheists like Woody are angry about his Christian beliefs even though the Christian beliefs of Barack Obama don't bother them. That's all.
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But that's what this whole thing is about. Dr Carson is a conservative and would run as a Republican so bitter atheists like Woody are angry about his Christian beliefs even though the Christian beliefs of Barack Obama don't bother them. That's all.
WSS
Umm I must have read a different forum post than you did. Does Obama also believe the world is only 6000 years old? Does he also not believe in Evolution?
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Why are atheists always described as 'bitter' round here?
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But that's what this whole thing is about. Dr Carson is a conservative and would run as a Republican so bitter atheists like Woody are angry about his Christian beliefs even though the Christian beliefs of Barack Obama don't bother them. That's all.
WSS
Umm I must have read a different forum post than you did. Does Obama also believe the world is only 6000 years old? Does he also not believe in Evolution?
Umm I must have read a different forum post than you did. Does Obama also believe the world is only 6000 years old? Does he also not believe in Evolution?
The president not only claims to be a Christian but that his Christian values guide him in governing the country. Evolution is not the only idea that Christians have specific unscientific beliefs about. Yet because the bitter atheist are fans of Obama they are pleased to overlook those beliefs but not the unscientific beliefs of a conservative.
That's all.
And since some members of this forum love to brag about their education can we all admit that Dr Carson would easily be the most educated person here? And more educated than the current president?
(just trying to scrub off a little of the hypocrisy)
WSS
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Bitter atheists tend to be happy that Obama (or other presidents) are guided by christian *values* - I think most will agree that on the whole christian values tend to align with the generally accepted set of moral values. Obama does not, however, cite the bible as evidence for anything, especially when it's in the scientific realm.
So, in short - love thy neighbour? Great, we all agree; earth is 6000 years old, flat, and at the centre of the universe? Less agreement.
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Umm I must have read a different forum post than you did. Does Obama also believe the world is only 6000 years old? Does he also not believe in Evolution?
The president not only claims to be a Christian but that his Christian values guide him in governing the country. Evolution is not the only idea that Christians have specific unscientific beliefs about. Yet because the bitter atheist are fans of Obama they are pleased to overlook those beliefs but not the unscientific beliefs of a conservative.
That's all.
And since some members of this forum love to brag about their education can we all admit that Dr Carson would easily be the most educated person here? And more educated than the current president?
(just trying to scrub off a little of the hypocrisy)
WSS
The president not only claims to be a Christian but that his Christian values guide him in governing the country. Evolution is not the only idea that Christians have specific unscientific beliefs about. Yet because the bitter atheist are fans of Obama they are pleased to overlook those beliefs but not the unscientific beliefs of a conservative.
That's all.
And since some members of this forum love to brag about their education can we all admit that Dr Carson would easily be the most educated person here? And more educated than the current president?
(just trying to scrub off a little of the hypocrisy)
WSS
But evolution and the age of the earth have been proven by science to be different than what the bible claims, is there something that Obama believes that is part of Christianity\bible that has been proven by science to be incorrect?
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The president not only claims to be a Christian but that his Christian values guide him in governing the country. Evolution is not the only idea that Christians have specific unscientific beliefs about. Yet because the bitter atheist are fans of Obama they are pleased to overlook those beliefs but not the unscientific beliefs of a conservative.
That's all.
And since some members of this forum love to brag about their education can we all admit that Dr Carson would easily be the most educated person here? And more educated than the current president?
(just trying to scrub off a little of the hypocrisy)
WSS
But evolution and the age of the earth have been proven by science to be different than what the bible claims, is there something that Obama believes that is part of Christianity\bible that has been proven by science to be incorrect?
But evolution and the age of the earth have been proven by science to be different than what the bible claims, is there something that Obama believes that is part of Christianity\bible that has been proven by science to be incorrect?
So except for evolution everything else in the Bible is perfectly scientifically factual to you? Fair enough.
WSS
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Steve, do you even read the posts on here? Or are we just getting a heavy dose of "brilliant Steve infers the REAL meaning of posts"?
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PS as I said the virgin birth the resurrection etc... But if you want to pretend that we just aren't sure about those things, I'll accept that.
WSS
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No you idiot. I never said that was my major issue...
But as discussed in a previous thread, if a candidate honestly believes that, then they lack some serious comprehension ability in my eyes. If you take all of the evidence available to us, and come up with that, then why would I trust you to accurately analyze public issues or foreign policy?
Dem or Rep, the belief in a Young Earth by the candidate would all but persuade me not to vote for them. There is being religious, and there is lacking common sense.
So you hate old people, but love an old earth?
So you hate old people, but love an old earth?
No, of course not
Old people that hate young people though...
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See your the one who is trying to make me sound anti-republican, I would vote against a dem that has the same lack of common sense(I am an independent that leans dem). When you run for president, anything you have said...ever gets brought to the front.
But that's what this whole thing is about. Dr Carson is a conservative and would run as a Republican so bitter atheists like Woody are angry about his Christian beliefs even though the Christian beliefs of Barack Obama don't bother them. That's all.
WSS
But that's what this whole thing is about. Dr Carson is a conservative and would run as a Republican so bitter atheists like Woody are angry about his Christian beliefs even though the Christian beliefs of Barack Obama don't bother them. That's all.
WSS
The point.
You missed it.
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PS as I said the virgin birth the resurrection etc... But if you want to pretend that we just aren't sure about those things, I'll accept that.
WSS
PS as I said the virgin birth the resurrection etc... But if you want to pretend that we just aren't sure about those things, I'll accept that.
WSS
These subjects get into the unable to 100% disprove, while modern science has shown that this types of things should not have happened, it is nearly impossible to prove beyond a doubt that it didn't.
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Why are atheists always described as 'bitter' round here?
Just because many of the more vocal ones are so angry that someone else might find peace in a spiritual world that can't be proven by science. Look at the Tim Tebow thread on the Browns board. This kid has done nothing to upset anyone and yet half those respondingare positively furious at him.
For the record there are lots of people who are shitty and nasty to others for no reason. The bitter atheists are among them.
WSS
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Why are atheists always described as 'bitter' round here?
Just because many of the more vocal ones are so angry that someone else might find peace in a spiritual world that can't be proven by science. Look at the Tim Tebow thread on the Browns board. This kid has done nothing to upset anyone and yet half those respondingare positively furious at him.
For the record there are lots of people who are shitty and nasty to others for no reason. The bitter atheists are among them.
WSS
Just because many of the more vocal ones are so angry that someone else might find peace in a spiritual world that can't be proven by science. Look at the Tim Tebow thread on the Browns board. This kid has done nothing to upset anyone and yet half those respondingare positively furious at him.
For the record there are lots of people who are shitty and nasty to others for no reason. The bitter atheists are among them.
WSS
yeah I don't understand the Tebow "hate" either. Don't forget though that he was on that Fl team that beat OSU, so there's that. Otherwise though I just think he's not an NFL talent, that's not bitter or angry. WIsh the dude well otherwise. Tbh though with our current QB situation I wouldn't have been mad if they brought him in. I mean what can we lose at this point? Outright hating the guy seems odd though.
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