Gipson not at voluntary workouts
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Mike Wallace walked away? He was out of contract and we didn't offer him a contract like Miami. Brown is UNDER contract for another three years there is a pretty big damn difference. Smh.
Well, your quote here made it sound like he would be with the Steelers out of love of the organization or city:
Antonio Brown is apparently doing the same thing. He is underpaid but he has three years remaining and he's not underpaid by much. I expect him to be a steeler for the long haul but the steelers play hard ball with this stuff. Its going to.be interesting.
So, then the "long haul" is simply the length of his monetary deal.....not his loyalty to queen and country.
. I anticipate when the time comes brown is going to get the contract he wants and it will be from the steelers. He's not next up. Guys like heyward and beachum are and the steelers don't bend on this stuff.Well, your quote here made it sound like he would be with the Steelers out of love of the organization or city:
Antonio Brown is apparently doing the same thing. He is underpaid but he has three years remaining and he's not underpaid by much. I expect him to be a steeler for the long haul but the steelers play hard ball with this stuff. Its going to.be interesting.
So, then the "long haul" is simply the length of his monetary deal.....not his loyalty to queen and country.
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. I anticipate when the time comes brown is going to get the contract he wants and it will be from the steelers. He's not next up. Guys like heyward and beachum are and the steelers don't bend on this stuff.Well, your quote here made it sound like he would be with the Steelers out of love of the organization or city:
Antonio Brown is apparently doing the same thing. He is underpaid but he has three years remaining and he's not underpaid by much. I expect him to be a steeler for the long haul but the steelers play hard ball with this stuff. Its going to.be interesting.
So, then the "long haul" is simply the length of his monetary deal.....not his loyalty to queen and country.
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Why does Mary Kay write this bullsh##...? I swear she actively tries to undermine the Browns in every way. She is garbage, and needs to disappear...
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It's too bad that Joe Haden's younger brother Jordan Haden decided not to go to the NFL but instead join the family business after suffering multiple injuries. If he was anything like Joe we could have snagged him up and haden ourselves a secondary. lol. For real though, that sucks he quit.
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He's a restricted free agent isn't he? He was offered a second round tender. He's trying to get more money from the Browns. Doooooofus.??...as opposed to involuntary sessions?.....Totally disagree.....one bad cut on that recently repaired knee and it could over....
He's on a mini holdout?.....Thats ridiculous.....he's a freaking FREE AGENT and the signing period is still open doofus....what free agent EVER works out and plays for a team they aren't even signed too....doh
He's a restricted free agent isn't he? He was offered a second round tender. He's trying to get more money from the Browns. Doooooofus.
Yes, he is....which means he doesn't attend a practice with a team that he's not even signed to.....ever hear of the CBA?.....
Free Agents shop for contracts. It's what they ALL do.....and they dont play(or practice for free).....
Your guy signed a contract and now doesn't want to honor it. He wants more than he agreed to and is now threatening to sit out or break the deal.....
This is NOTHING like what our guy is doing.....he honored his contract.....did what he agreed to do.....and now, without sitting out or withholding services, he is using his rights as a FA to check other opportunities....
So....if any fans should be "pissed"(as you say)....Id think the best target is Antonio Brown for not honoring his agreement to the Steelers and their fans....
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He's a restricted free agent isn't he? He was offered a second round tender. He's trying to get more money from the Browns. Doooooofus.
Yes, he is....which means he doesn't attend a practice with a team that he's not even signed to.....ever hear of the CBA?.....
Free Agents shop for contracts. It's what they ALL do.....and they dont play(or practice for free).....
Your guy signed a contract and now doesn't want to honor it. He wants more than he agreed to and is now threatening to sit out or break the deal.....
This is NOTHING like what our guy is doing.....he honored his contract.....did what he agreed to do.....and now, without sitting out or withholding services, he is using his rights as a FA to check other opportunities....
So....if any fans should be "pissed"(as you say)....Id think the best target is Antonio Brown for not honoring his agreement to the Steelers and their fans....
Yes, he is....which means he doesn't attend a practice with a team that he's not even signed to.....ever hear of the CBA?.....
Free Agents shop for contracts. It's what they ALL do.....and they dont play(or practice for free).....
Your guy signed a contract and now doesn't want to honor it. He wants more than he agreed to and is now threatening to sit out or break the deal.....
This is NOTHING like what our guy is doing.....he honored his contract.....did what he agreed to do.....and now, without sitting out or withholding services, he is using his rights as a FA to check other opportunities....
So....if any fans should be "pissed"(as you say)....Id think the best target is Antonio Brown for not honoring his agreement to the Steelers and their fans....
I know it's not the same. I'm also less than pleased with Brown BUT he can't break his contract. He can sit out three whole seasons and then a 4th if they decide to franchise him. He's not going to do that and he's always going to realize the steelers don't work the way he thinks they do. He's getting bad advice that's for sure.
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Antonio Brown is apparently doing the same thing. He is underpaid but he has three years remaining and he's not underpaid by much. I expect him to be a steeler for the long haul but the steelers play hard ball with this stuff. Its going to.be interesting.
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It's the same thing, but you know it is not the same thing......
okay. Been drinkin any 3 river scumwater recently?
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Antonio Brown is apparently doing the same thing. He is underpaid but he has three years remaining and he's not underpaid by much. I expect him to be a steeler for the long haul but the steelers play hard ball with this stuff. Its going to.be interesting.
Antonio Brown is apparently doing the same thing.
I know it's not the same. I'm also less than pleased with Brown
Its the same fucking thing.........dumb ass.
round and round we go....
but hey...calling me a dumb ass really adds to your argument.....way to go vag!....u da man
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Antonio Brown is apparently doing the same thing.
I know it's not the same. I'm also less than pleased with Brown
Its the same fucking thing.........dumb ass.
round and round we go....
but hey...calling me a dumb ass really adds to your argument.....way to go vag!....u da man
Its not hard. Gipson is restricted but hasn't signed his tender because he wants more money. Brown isn't at ota's because only 20% of his contract is guaranteed and he's one of the best in the league. Although brown has tweeted a few times since all the brewhaha that he can't wait to be with his teammates but he's spending time with his newborn. Either way the unrestricted/three years left on the deal isn't the same and that's what I indicated but the end game is....is that really that difficult to follow? Need it spelled out more?round and round we go....
but hey...calling me a dumb ass really adds to your argument.....way to go vag!....u da man
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Its not hard. Gipson is restricted but hasn't signed his tender because he wants more money. Brown isn't at ota's because only 20% of his contract is guaranteed and he's one of the best in the league. Although brown has tweeted a few times since all the brewhaha that he can't wait to be with his teammates but he's spending time with his newborn. Either way the unrestricted/three years left on the deal isn't the same and that's what I indicated but the end game is....is that really that difficult to follow? Need it spelled out more?round and round we go....
but hey...calling me a dumb ass really adds to your argument.....way to go vag!....u da man
Its not hard. Gipson is restricted but hasn't signed his tender because he wants more money. Brown isn't at ota's because only 20% of his contract is guaranteed and he's one of the best in the league. Although brown has tweeted a few times since all the brewhaha that he can't wait to be with his teammates but he's spending time with his newborn. Either way the unrestricted/three years left on the deal isn't the same and that's what I indicated but the end game is....is that really that difficult to follow? Need it spelled out more?
So let me get this straight.
You're saying it's the... same?
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I was under the impression (since after OP), that Gipson was not allowed at voluntary practises, and isn't really holding out, unlike Brown.
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well the term 'holding out' has me wondering when does the act of 'holding out' actually occur? i would think it means that he won't play and that means opening day forward correct? i mean he can say he's holding out during TC etc. but until the first kickoff does that really mean anything besides a bargaining tool?
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well the term 'holding out' has me wondering when does the act of 'holding out' actually occur? i would think it means that he won't play and that means opening day forward correct? i mean he can say he's holding out during TC etc. but until the first kickoff does that really mean anything besides a bargaining tool?
well the term 'holding out' has me wondering when does the act of 'holding out' actually occur? i would think it means that he won't play and that means opening day forward correct? i mean he can say he's holding out during TC etc. but until the first kickoff does that really mean anything besides a bargaining tool?
Except that it really affects team chemistry, learning the playbook and any changes since last year (apparently there'll be plenty to counter the run D), things like that.
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I was under the impression (since after OP), that Gipson was not allowed at voluntary practises, and isn't really holding out, unlike Brown.
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well the term 'holding out' has me wondering when does the act of 'holding out' actually occur? i would think it means that he won't play and that means opening day forward correct? i mean he can say he's holding out during TC etc. but until the first kickoff does that really mean anything besides a bargaining tool?
well the term 'holding out' has me wondering when does the act of 'holding out' actually occur?
Id say it occurs at a couple of points....
1) when you have a signed contract and then refuse to report or perform.....
2) when you refuse to sign a contract, beyond the normal signing period, and then fail to report to mandatory camp(s) or workouts....
Well know soon enough.....Tomorrow is the deadline for Gibson to sign with another team. So now he can either sign the tender and get to work.....or continue to negotiate with the Browns for more.....which could lead to a hold out eventually(though I highly doubt that happens).....we shall see.....
I say he signs the tender.....
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Thats what he's saying.....
That a player(with a 3 year contract) holding out for more money is the same as a Free Agent(w/o a contract) negotiating with other teams for the best deal.....
So dumb it hurts to even think about it.....
Negotiating with other teams? The other teams would need to one sign gipson and two give up a 2nd round pick. I said the desired end game for both players is the same. They both want more money. Who is negotiating with gipson? Toying with giving up 2nd right before the draft with a guy coming off surgery? Yea I bet teams are beating down the door. The Browns tendered him at the 2nd round level because they thought they MIGHT get some interest. Tender him at a first and he's definitely not going anywhere and he likely would have signed already. You just can't read or refuse to see my point for the sake of being a troll.Thats what he's saying.....
That a player(with a 3 year contract) holding out for more money is the same as a Free Agent(w/o a contract) negotiating with other teams for the best deal.....
So dumb it hurts to even think about it.....
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