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  • OK, ma fois.

    The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select: Wide Receiver Jake Kumerow Wisconsin-Whitwater

    6'5" 208 4.5 in the 40. Skinny boy who could actually put on about 30-40 lbs.

    From SB Nation:

    Positives

    • Elite blend of size, strength and speed that will attract many teams.
    • Physical aspect to his game, plays physical after the catch.
    • Has excellent hands, catches away from his body and doesn't snatch at the ball.
    • Good awareness on patterns to sit down in zone coverage.
    • Excellent red-zone threat who knows how to use his body to box out.
    • Above average release from the line, gets off quickly and into stride.
    • Production, missed 4 games this year and still put up over 1,000 yards and 14 TD's.
    • Bulked up to over 200lb's, only just revealing true potential.

    Negatives

    • Competition, there is no way to get around it, he was facing D3 competition.
    • Routes - rounds off a lot, doesn't get in and out very sharply.
    • Technique - He is taller, stronger, faster than D3, hasn't had to work on technique.
    • Needs to make the most of his height, sometimes waits for the ball to come to him.
    Conclusion
    I'm really pleased that Kumerow is getting a little attention from the scouting circles, because frankly he deserves it. He has a lot of talent and he's grown into his frame over the course of the last two years. He really wants this and that shows up on tape. He's big, he's fast and he's a fighter. You have to like a guy who has those traits and if he isn't worth a flyer later in the draft, I don't know who is. I think he'll get drafted without a shadow of a doubt, where he gets drafted will depend on how he showcases himself in the lead-up to the NFL draft. He was very much a big fish in a very small pond, however he was playing at an elite school in D3 competition in Wisconsin-Whitewater.
    I would 100% take a serious look at this man, and for a team who's desperate to unearth that big, fast, talented receiver, we need to be at the front of the line, and there will be a line.

    Draft Grade: 60

    90-100 = Exceptional Talent

    80-90 = Impact Player

    70-80 = NFL Starter

    60-70 = Solid NFL Potential

    50-60 = Draftable - Lot of work needed

    >50 = Undraftable - Long Shot To Stick

    Plus: Football is in his blood....sorta His Dad Eric Kumerow was a first round NFL draft pick for the Dolphis. His uncle John Bosa was a first round pick in the NFL, also by the Dolphins. Both players really were first round busts. (was it them....or the Dolphins?).

    But, his cousin is Joey Bosa, of Ohio State Univ. The putative #1 overall selection of the 2016 draft. Taking this kid in the 7th round is worth the shot.

    Plus the school he played for has won the D-III title 3 of the 4 years he has been there.

  • ok......its the 7th round and no one has tapped my boy Tyler Varga???........tsk tsk

    and only 6 QB's????..........doesnt everybody need one ?.....how do you pass on the 7th best QB to pick the 42nd best Guard or something....hahaha....

  • ok......its the 7th round and no one has tapped my boy Tyler Varga???........tsk tsk

    and only 6 QB's????..........doesnt everybody need one ?.....how do you pass on the 7th best QB to pick the 42nd best Guard or something....hahaha....

    @mudfly said:

    ok......its the 7th round and no one has tapped my boy Tyler Varga???........tsk tsk

    and only 6 QB's????..........doesnt everybody need one ?.....how do you pass on the 7th best QB to pick the 42nd best Guard or something....hahaha....

    sshhhhhh.... the Browns' pick is coming up 🥷

  • ok......its the 7th round and no one has tapped my boy Tyler Varga???........tsk tsk

    and only 6 QB's????..........doesnt everybody need one ?.....how do you pass on the 7th best QB to pick the 42nd best Guard or something....hahaha....

    @mudfly said:

    ok......its the 7th round and no one has tapped my boy Tyler Varga???........tsk tsk

    and only 6 QB's????..........doesnt everybody need one ?.....how do you pass on the 7th best QB to pick the 42nd best Guard or something....hahaha....

    I had Tampa and Carolina. I took a QB with the #1 overall pick.....and for my other team I have Cam Newton. I think I did alright picking QBs.

  • Patriots for the 2nd pick 7th round take Nick Marshall QB Auburn-expected to be an excellent special teamer and convert to either CB or FS. 4.5 speed and great all-around athlete.

  • The Jaguars final pick in the 2015 NFL draft ...

    Letterius Walton DT Central Michigan

    A late 4th or early 5th rounder in lots of experts mocks .... 6.5" and 315lb

    http://www.irishscout.com/story/1529658-letterius-walton-player-evaluation

  • The Jaguars final pick in the 2015 NFL draft ...

    Letterius Walton DT Central Michigan

    A late 4th or early 5th rounder in lots of experts mocks .... 6.5" and 315lb

    http://www.irishscout.com/story/1529658-letterius-walton-player-evaluation

    @darren15 said:

    Letterius Walton DT Central Michigan

    Letterius?.......wonder if he's related to Numberius?

  • Best available by the list I am going off of

    1. Mike Davis South Carolina RB
    2. Tony Washington Oregon OLB
    3. Vince Mayle Washington St. WR
    4. Lynden Trail Norfolk St. DE43 OLB34
    5. Antwan Goodley Baylor WR
    6. B.J. Catalon TCU RB
    7. JaCorey Shepherd Kansas CB
    8. Titus Davis Central Mich. WR
    9. Corey Crawford Clemson DE
    10. Jean Sifrin Massachusetts TE
    11. Quandre Diggs Texas CB
    12. Deion Barnes Penn St OLB
    13. Austin Hill Arizona WR
    14. Takoby Cofield Duke OG
    15. Tavaris Barnes Clemson DE
    16. Kyshoen Jarret Virginia Tech SS
    17. Dres Anderson Utah WR
    18. Terrance Plummer UCF ILB
    19. Jalston Fowler Alabama FB
    20. J.J. Nelson UAB WR
  • The Raiders take Mike Davis for their last pick.

  • Sorry-try again 4.26. Ravens (XxDaBuckeyexX): Leterrius Walton, DT, Central Michigan

  • Browns Board Mock Picked Player List

    Updated 4/24/15 @ 19:00 CDT thru 7.01.

    http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32178&do=findComment&comment=482513

  • cbbacker said:

    Sorry bud, most of what you posted is a blatant lie. It's opinion on where you think he finished as the rookie wr... and you can have it, I disagree. Also they didn't give us 3 picks, they gave us 2 picks, we swapped the other. If i give you a quarter, and you give me a quarter, you don't have 2 quarters, you only have 1. If I give you a quarter, and you give me a quarter, nickel and penny, I have gained a nickel and penny, not all 3. understand?

    There isn't any site out there rating Sammy low like you said. I guess there might be a Joe Blow.draft.com that says he was bad. Nobody of merit agrees with that statement.

    Hip surgery? Really? So no one has surgeries ever? lol.

    And yes, Gilbert was beyond bad, so bad that some of the media thought they would cut him. I never said he couldn't improve. I said he was absolutely horrible last year, and he was. He was so bad, he didn't even play until injuries forced him in last year in the 2nd half of the season. He was benched by a guy who wasn't even drafted in k'waun Williams. Yes that is beyond bad. But you are right, he could get better. I never said he couldn't.

    Blatant lie?.....we gave them 1 pick, they gave us three.....my point was that we have 2 picks in this years draft that came from Buffalo....not just the one, as you had said.....

    NFL.com has Sammy at #45 based on catches or #24 based on yards.....and that site that you claim to be Joeblow.com is actually PFF, which is pretty much the standard.....and he was #13 rookie....and #79 overall in the NFL.....

    And Gilbert was nowhere close to being cut. He played the whole season, not just the second half. Who do you think got injured that suddenly allowed him to play?......and he only scored poorly his first 2 games......then, each progressive game, he got better and better.....have you even watched him play?....have you watch the all-22's?...cause you'd need to see them to actually grade his performance.....I have, btw.....and against Jax and Oak, he was completely shut down(92 snaps without giving anything up)....in fact, those 2 games he was EASILY the best CB on the field(maybe you didnt notice him because there were no plays on his side of the field?)....and he graded out on the plus side in 6 out of the last 8 games he played.....which shows HUGE improvement thru the season....so where is the suckage?.....which games?......what did he do poorly?.....what passes did he give up?.....how many TD's did he allow?.....cause you cant answer these, while still saying he sucked.....

    And Kwan was simply the #1 rated rookie slot CB in the league....which makes Skrine the one who started ahead of Gilbert. Not Williams.

    So....if you actually have some facts to support your argument...fine, Im waiting......but if it's just you blowing steam, without actually watching the tape or having facts to back it, then.....whatever.....

    In summary:

    1) Buffalo gave us 3 picks in exchange for our 1 pick....we will pick 2 players this year using Buffalo picks

    2) Gilbert played 14 out of 16 games....not just the second half

    3) Gilbert played because Pettine wanted him in the game, not because "someone" was injured

    4) Skrine started ahead of Gilbert, not Williams

    5) Sammy Watkins was nowhere near the best rookie WR this year and EVERY rating service in the land agrees

    6) Your right....hip surgery is a very good thing for speedy guys and should be of no concern when your star rookie needs it....

    So, you call my post full of blantat lies, then post a bunch of nonsense with no basis?

    @mudfly said:

    You need to learn to read.

    In summary:

    1) Buffalo gave us 3 picks in exchange for our 1 pick....we will pick 2 players this year using Buffalo picks

    I said we got 2 first round picks stupid. I never said we didn't get a 4. I was refering to the 1's. Sorry you couldn't follow.

    2) Gilbert played 14 out of 16 games....not just the second half

    Again you misread what I wrote, I said he played sparingly except when we had injuries in the second half. yes he played in 14 games, but that means he might have only played 1 play. He was benched for most of the 2nd half. Clearly you didn't watch the games.

    3) Gilbert played because Pettine wanted him in the game, not because "someone" was injured

    Joe Haden didn't get hurt and miss time this year? Skrine didn't get hurt later in the year? Nice lie.

    4) Skrine started ahead of Gilbert, not Williams

    WRONG I said Williams started over Gilbert, and he did. Skrine did start at the other corner, but Williams was our 3, I just mispoke. Sorry you coudln't understand. You said you watched the games, how did you miss this?

    5) Sammy Watkins was nowhere near the best rookie WR this year and EVERY rating service in the land agrees

    Never said he was, but you cannot read, so I expect stupid remarks like this. All I said was is he had a successful year for a rookie, I never said he was the best. Learn to read.

    6) Your right....hip surgery is a very good thing for speedy guys and should be of no concern when your star rookie needs it....

    So you think nobody ever comes back from routine hip surgeries? I guess nobody comes back from knee scopes, shoulder scopes, and many other routine surgeries. Good one!!

    So, you call my post full of blantat lies, then post a bunch of nonsense with no basis?

    Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black. LOL.

  • @mudfly said:

    You need to learn to read.

    In summary:

    1) Buffalo gave us 3 picks in exchange for our 1 pick....we will pick 2 players this year using Buffalo picks

    I said we got 2 first round picks stupid. I never said we didn't get a 4. I was refering to the 1's. Sorry you couldn't follow.

    2) Gilbert played 14 out of 16 games....not just the second half

    Again you misread what I wrote, I said he played sparingly except when we had injuries in the second half. yes he played in 14 games, but that means he might have only played 1 play. He was benched for most of the 2nd half. Clearly you didn't watch the games.

    3) Gilbert played because Pettine wanted him in the game, not because "someone" was injured

    Joe Haden didn't get hurt and miss time this year? Skrine didn't get hurt later in the year? Nice lie.

    4) Skrine started ahead of Gilbert, not Williams

    WRONG I said Williams started over Gilbert, and he did. Skrine did start at the other corner, but Williams was our 3, I just mispoke. Sorry you coudln't understand. You said you watched the games, how did you miss this?

    5) Sammy Watkins was nowhere near the best rookie WR this year and EVERY rating service in the land agrees

    Never said he was, but you cannot read, so I expect stupid remarks like this. All I said was is he had a successful year for a rookie, I never said he was the best. Learn to read.

    6) Your right....hip surgery is a very good thing for speedy guys and should be of no concern when your star rookie needs it....

    So you think nobody ever comes back from routine hip surgeries? I guess nobody comes back from knee scopes, shoulder scopes, and many other routine surgeries. Good one!!

    So, you call my post full of blantat lies, then post a bunch of nonsense with no basis?

    Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black. LOL.

    cbbacker said:

    @mudfly said:

    You need to learn to read.

    In summary:

    1) Buffalo gave us 3 picks in exchange for our 1 pick....we will pick 2 players this year using Buffalo picks

    I said we got 2 first round picks stupid. I never said we didn't get a 4. I was refering to the 1's. Sorry you couldn't follow.

    I followed....read back dimwit.....I said they gave us 3 picks and you went on some rant about trading quarters.....simple as that.....

    2) Gilbert played 14 out of 16 games....not just the second half

    Again you misread what I wrote, I said he played sparingly except when we had injuries in the second half. yes he played in 14 games, but that means he might have only played 1 play. He was benched for most of the 2nd half. Clearly you didn't watch the games.

    No...you said>>> " He was so bad, he didn't even play until injuries forced him in last year in the 2nd half of the season"<<<(your words).....I watched every game about 6 times now, mostly using all 22 coaches view......and Gilbert played almost 400 snaps(3rd most for CB on the Browns)...did you know that?.....so, again, I didnt misread anything and he played pretty much the same amount the first half season as the second half(actually a bit more)....so, right again....sorry

    3) Gilbert played because Pettine wanted him in the game, not because "someone" was injured

    Joe Haden didn't get hurt and miss time this year? Skrine didn't get hurt later in the year? Nice lie.

    See...you keep calling me a liar(are you 12 yrs old or something?)....look....Skine played every single game and didnt get hurt. Haden missed only week 16 and Desir started that one. So not one injury start for Gilbert.

    Which means....again....me = facts......you?....no so much...

    4) Skrine started ahead of Gilbert, not Williams

    WRONG I said Williams started over Gilbert, and he did. Skrine did start at the other corner, but Williams was our 3, I just mispoke. Sorry you coudln't understand. You said you watched the games, how did you miss this?

    Obviously you dont understand the difference between a RCB and a SCB or a LCB.......Skrine and Gilbert play outside......Williams plays inside......so Gilbert(who is an outside CB) played behind Skrine.......and Williams(who is a slot CB) started in the slot.......Had Gilbert earned the starting position, it would have been skrines spot , not Kwans.....

    So....again.....me right you wrong...(learn your positions before you look dumber)

    5) Sammy Watkins was nowhere near the best rookie WR this year and EVERY rating service in the land agrees

    Never said he was, but you cannot read, so I expect stupid remarks like this. All I said was is he had a successful year for a rookie, I never said he was the best. Learn to read.

    Correct...and you should try reading too, because I never said you said that....I simply said he wasn't even the best in the draft and, therefore, not worth 2 firsts and a 4th round pick....

    and you didnt say he was successful, you said it was clear that he would have helped this team more than #19 and Gilbert and then you said Gilbert was so bad we almost cut him and on and on.....I simply stated I disagreed and offered solid reasons that Gilbert didnt suck as bad as you claimed and some solid reasons that Sammy shouldnt be worth 2 number 1 picks and a 4th......and some solid reasons that Gilbert, plus #19, PLUS a 4th might add up to more than a damaged sammy who performed well below expectations.....

    6) Your right....hip surgery is a very good thing for speedy guys and should be of no concern when your star rookie needs it....

    So you think nobody ever comes back from routine hip surgeries? I guess nobody comes back from knee scopes, shoulder scopes, and many other routine surgeries. Good one!!

    Wow....you put an awful lot of words in my mouth(why dont you try reading,,,,,and comprehending)....cause I didnt say that either......i simply said he had surgery on his hip and thats not what you want with a star rookie receiver.....

    So, you call my post full of blantat lies, then post a bunch of nonsense with no basis?

    Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black. LOL.

    No...it's not.....I back what I say, while you miss the mark on just about everything....then defend yourself with wild accusations and by calling me names......did I kill your puppy or something?

    again....everything Ive said is easily researched......just gotta have the smarts to do it.....

    Im out......not worth any more effort on this one....

  • redskins will take wr goodley from baylor

  • sorryyou all switching jobs and been busy as of late.

  • darren15-you need to remake your choice for the jags - taken in the 4th rd.

    Then make your two current jets picks.

  • Jags select

    Tyeler Davison DT Fresno St

    Davison's measurements during the NFL Combine displayed his lower-body explosion, quick change of direction and upper-body power, finishing in the top-five in the vertical jump, 20-yard shuttle and bench press.

    While not generating a lot of national recognition during the draft process, Davison has been a popular player among teams. Davison visited with the New Orleans Saints and Arizona Cardinals, a source told FOXSports.com. Davison has also worked out for the Houston Texans and Miami Dolphins.

  • New York Jets select ... 2 picks in a row

    Josh Robinson RB ...Miss St

    RB: Josh Robinson, Mississippi State. Quarterback Dak Prescott got all the attention for the emergence of Mississippi State's offense last year, but Robinson -- nicknamed Bowling Ball --deserved a lot more credit for his stellar season. Sure, Prescott's power running and play-action passing opened up holes for Robinson, but he also made a lot of things happen by himself, using his combination of power, balance and nifty feet. Is he ever going to be a featured runner? Probably not. But he averaged 6.3 yards per carry and caught 28 passes last year, making him a versatile asset, despite his unique frame (5-foot-8, 215 pounds).

    Then

    Titus Davis WR Central MIchigan

    Evaluators and teams might focus on Davis' lack of speed, but his ability to win with his routes should not be undersold. Davis has excellent ball skills and foot quickness and could be a terrific fit for a West Coast offense looking for an outside receiver who can make plays near the goal line.

  • cbbacker said:

    @mudfly said:

    You need to learn to read.

    In summary:

    1) Buffalo gave us 3 picks in exchange for our 1 pick....we will pick 2 players this year using Buffalo picks

    I said we got 2 first round picks stupid. I never said we didn't get a 4. I was refering to the 1's. Sorry you couldn't follow.

    I followed....read back dimwit.....I said they gave us 3 picks and you went on some rant about trading quarters.....simple as that.....

    2) Gilbert played 14 out of 16 games....not just the second half

    Again you misread what I wrote, I said he played sparingly except when we had injuries in the second half. yes he played in 14 games, but that means he might have only played 1 play. He was benched for most of the 2nd half. Clearly you didn't watch the games.

    No...you said>>> " He was so bad, he didn't even play until injuries forced him in last year in the 2nd half of the season"<<<(your words).....I watched every game about 6 times now, mostly using all 22 coaches view......and Gilbert played almost 400 snaps(3rd most for CB on the Browns)...did you know that?.....so, again, I didnt misread anything and he played pretty much the same amount the first half season as the second half(actually a bit more)....so, right again....sorry

    3) Gilbert played because Pettine wanted him in the game, not because "someone" was injured

    Joe Haden didn't get hurt and miss time this year? Skrine didn't get hurt later in the year? Nice lie.

    See...you keep calling me a liar(are you 12 yrs old or something?)....look....Skine played every single game and didnt get hurt. Haden missed only week 16 and Desir started that one. So not one injury start for Gilbert.

    Which means....again....me = facts......you?....no so much...

    4) Skrine started ahead of Gilbert, not Williams

    WRONG I said Williams started over Gilbert, and he did. Skrine did start at the other corner, but Williams was our 3, I just mispoke. Sorry you coudln't understand. You said you watched the games, how did you miss this?

    Obviously you dont understand the difference between a RCB and a SCB or a LCB.......Skrine and Gilbert play outside......Williams plays inside......so Gilbert(who is an outside CB) played behind Skrine.......and Williams(who is a slot CB) started in the slot.......Had Gilbert earned the starting position, it would have been skrines spot , not Kwans.....

    So....again.....me right you wrong...(learn your positions before you look dumber)

    5) Sammy Watkins was nowhere near the best rookie WR this year and EVERY rating service in the land agrees

    Never said he was, but you cannot read, so I expect stupid remarks like this. All I said was is he had a successful year for a rookie, I never said he was the best. Learn to read.

    Correct...and you should try reading too, because I never said you said that....I simply said he wasn't even the best in the draft and, therefore, not worth 2 firsts and a 4th round pick....

    and you didnt say he was successful, you said it was clear that he would have helped this team more than #19 and Gilbert and then you said Gilbert was so bad we almost cut him and on and on.....I simply stated I disagreed and offered solid reasons that Gilbert didnt suck as bad as you claimed and some solid reasons that Sammy shouldnt be worth 2 number 1 picks and a 4th......and some solid reasons that Gilbert, plus #19, PLUS a 4th might add up to more than a damaged sammy who performed well below expectations.....

    6) Your right....hip surgery is a very good thing for speedy guys and should be of no concern when your star rookie needs it....

    So you think nobody ever comes back from routine hip surgeries? I guess nobody comes back from knee scopes, shoulder scopes, and many other routine surgeries. Good one!!

    Wow....you put an awful lot of words in my mouth(why dont you try reading,,,,,and comprehending)....cause I didnt say that either......i simply said he had surgery on his hip and thats not what you want with a star rookie receiver.....

    So, you call my post full of blantat lies, then post a bunch of nonsense with no basis?

    Ain't that the pot calling the kettle black. LOL.

    No...it's not.....I back what I say, while you miss the mark on just about everything....then defend yourself with wild accusations and by calling me names......did I kill your puppy or something?

    again....everything Ive said is easily researched......just gotta have the smarts to do it.....

    Im out......not worth any more effort on this one....

    @mudfly said:

    cbbacker said:

    @mudfly said:

    Your a tool, I don't really care what is worth your time. Not my fault you can't read, and comprehend. have a nice day.

  • The Atlanta Falcons select B.J. Catalon, RB, TCU