Looking For Reasons
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No kidding, can you imagine frank jackson be elected mayor of any upscale city? The guy reminds me of grady on sanford and son.
WSS
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Actually the mayor is sympathetic to African Americans, who commit most of the crimes (and in all honesty suffer most of the problems). That's not the same as being sympathetic to just criminals. Looking at many blighted urban areas the African American population is easily enough to elect a black mayor and she owes fealty to her constituents.
WSS
black mayor ... owes fealty to her constituents.
WSS
including condoning of riots?
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They had to beg to get the CVS they burned and looted also. They had to convince CVS that it would be welcome and was needed not only for prescription drugs, but groceries, etc. Think CVS will rebuild?
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This is not an excuse for the rioters - many of whom are not from the neighborhood or not even from Baltimore.
It looks like Gray's death was due to a BPD practice called the rough ride http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-gray-rough-rides-20150423-story.html#page=1
This is not an excuse for the rioters - many of whom are not from the neighborhood or not even from Baltimore.
It looks like Gray's death was due to a BPD practice called the rough ride http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-gray-rough-rides-20150423-story.html#page=1
How do you know they are not from the neighborhood or Baltimore? The kids who started the riot at the mall sure as hell were.
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black mayor ... owes fealty to her constituents.
WSS
including condoning of riots?
Of course it should not but let's be realistic shall we? Do any politicians condone illegal immigration in order to gain favor with Hispanic constituents?including condoning of riots?
I would suppose you could find examples of Mayors of redneck cities who go overboard on the law and order.
WSS
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http://www.ted.com/talks/clint_smith_how_to_raise_a_black_son_in_america
Basically talks about how black kids can't play the same as white kids, because of double standards.
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http://www.ted.com/talks/clint_smith_how_to_raise_a_black_son_in_america
Basically talks about how black kids can't play the same as white kids, because of double standards.
http://www.ted.com/talks/clint_smith_how_to_raise_a_black_son_in_america
Basically talks about how black kids can't play the same as white kids, because of double standards.
Not sure what point you are trying to make except this one's guys opinion that black kids cant play the same as white kids is a reason (see thread title) for this criminal destruction of an inner city.
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http://www.ted.com/talks/clint_smith_how_to_raise_a_black_son_in_america
Basically talks about how black kids can't play the same as white kids, because of double standards.
Not sure what point you are trying to make except this one's guys opinion that black kids cant play the same as white kids is a reason (see thread title) for this criminal destruction of an inner city.
Not sure what point you are trying to make except this one's guys opinion that black kids cant play the same as white kids is a reason (see thread title) for this criminal destruction of an inner city.
I thought it was interesting. I guess the point is the perception that black people are guilty until proven innocent, and white people are innocent until proven guilty.
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Not sure what point you are trying to make except this one's guys opinion that black kids cant play the same as white kids is a reason (see thread title) for this criminal destruction of an inner city.
I thought it was interesting. I guess the point is the perception that black people are guilty until proven innocent, and white people are innocent until proven guilty.
I thought it was interesting. I guess the point is the perception that black people are guilty until proven innocent, and white people are innocent until proven guilty.
Actually as happy as that might make you I don't think it's true. When the cops arrest somebody and drag them to jail they usually think they're guilty.
It's just that over here the poorest and most crime-ridden areas are usually predominantly black.
WSS
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They had to beg to get the CVS they burned and looted also. They had to convince CVS that it would be welcome and was needed not only for prescription drugs, but groceries, etc. Think CVS will rebuild?
They had to beg to get the CVS they burned and looted also. They had to convince CVS that it would be welcome and was needed not only for prescription drugs, but groceries, etc. Think CVS will rebuild?
Reminds me of the Rodney King riots in L.A.
A large, locally owned grocery store was looted and burned to the ground. After the owner said he probably
wouldn't rebuild, he was accused of abandoning the community. But it was out of his hands; to get a loan to
rebuild he would require insurance, and no insurance company was going to give him coverage to rebuild in a
war zone. Same with getting a loan from the bank--no bank was going to loan him money to rebuild in that
neighborhood.
Closer to my home, there are frequent complaints about the lack of any grocery stores in the West End of Charleston, WV.
Seems that a few years ago the local thug population was stealing them blind; when the owners barred them from
entering the store, they hung around on the sidewalk in front and intimidated the customers. Result: the grocery stores
all left and haven't gone back.
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I said the perception - not necessarily reality. And until we stop seeing all these black people being killed by police, and then that being excused by people saying "but he was a criminal, so I don't care" it'll stay that way.
People protesting the perceived unfair treatment of a sub-group of citizens are 'rioters' while people celebrating a sports team victory are 'revelers' - the difference being cause and skin colour.
While the perception persists, there will always be civil unrest.
I guess until they quit committing the lion's share of violent crime here that perception isn't going to change.
Of the hundreds or thousands of civilians beaten robbed or killed by black thugs every year, how many of them do you suppose are criminals? Or actually innocent?
WSS
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Brother Steve: you might want to combine this with the ongoing thread RE: Baltimore.
What is the true "Root Cause(s)" of the disaster going on in Baltimore?.
Personally, I don't agree that the death of this individual was the match that set this fuse on fire.
If so, why did a Low Income Housing Complex, with Medical and Health Facilities get torched? I saw the Pastor and he talked about the 6-9 years it took to get this facility near completion (it is faith-based and required donations, , grants, etc.). This was built 'in the community' FOR the 'community'.
Why looting and burning privately owned (most likely, Black owned) businesses if their anger was truly directed at "The Man"?
Why chant, "We want answers", when the city already said their report would be ready THIS Friday?
Here are some possible (true) reasons for this debacle:
- A Mayor who refused to act.
- A Mayor, seemingly, more interested in allowing criminals to run the streets rather than doing her job.
- A Mayor sympathetic to the criminals
- It was a long winter and these criminals were looking to vent pent up energy
- Outside elements infiltrated the community to enrage those just looking for a reason to riot
- A President only too happy to criticize the Police but not at all prone to critique anything these, "people of color" do.
- A (former) Attorney General who did not do his job and, in effect, was a sympathetic listener to certain elements of society
Others?
Brother Steve: you might want to combine this with the ongoing thread RE: Baltimore.
What is the true "Root Cause(s)" of the disaster going on in Baltimore?.
Personally, I don't agree that the death of this individual was the match that set this fuse on fire.
If so, why did a Low Income Housing Complex, with Medical and Health Facilities get torched? I saw the Pastor and he talked about the 6-9 years it took to get this facility near completion (it is faith-based and required donations, , grants, etc.). This was built 'in the community' FOR the 'community'.
Why looting and burning privately owned (most likely, Black owned) businesses if their anger was truly directed at "The Man"?
Why chant, "We want answers", when the city already said their report would be ready THIS Friday?
Here are some possible (true) reasons for this debacle:
- A Mayor who refused to act.
- A Mayor, seemingly, more interested in allowing criminals to run the streets rather than doing her job.
- A Mayor sympathetic to the criminals
- It was a long winter and these criminals were looking to vent pent up energy
- Outside elements infiltrated the community to enrage those just looking for a reason to riot
- A President only too happy to criticize the Police but not at all prone to critique anything these, "people of color" do.
- A (former) Attorney General who did not do his job and, in effect, was a sympathetic listener to certain elements of society
Others?
All of the above
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I enjoyed the video of the angry mom going up the side of her son's head in the middle of the riot.
Looked to me like she left work to go down and drag his ass out of there.
Unfortunately, I fear she is fighting a losing battle. It would have been nice to see a few dad's
kicking asses.
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If a white mom was doing that to her son, she would be hunted down and arrested.
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If a white mom was doing that to her son, she would be hunted down and arrested.
If a white mom was doing that to her son, she would be hunted down and arrested.
Not under those circumstances, Die.
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an answer? at least an INCREDIBLE man
an answer? at least an INCREDIBLE man
This pastor is a man of faith that can look at the ashes and see revival. It still sickens me to think that people would burn a senior center to the ground that only benefits the community. The CVS that was destroyed and looted for example is only going to hurt the people living in that area now with it being gone. I have no sympathy for the criminals but I do have sympathy for those who will have to live there afterwards.
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an answer? at least an INCREDIBLE man
This pastor is a man of faith that can look at the ashes and see revival. It still sickens me to think that people would burn a senior center to the ground that only benefits the community. The CVS that was destroyed and looted for example is only going to hurt the people living in that area now with it being gone. I have no sympathy for the criminals but I do have sympathy for those who will have to live there afterwards.
This pastor is a man of faith that can look at the ashes and see revival. It still sickens me to think that people would burn a senior center to the ground that only benefits the community. The CVS that was destroyed and looted for example is only going to hurt the people living in that area now with it being gone. I have no sympathy for the criminals but I do have sympathy for those who will have to live there afterwards.
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I said the perception - not necessarily reality. And until we stop seeing all these black people being killed by police, and then that being excused by people saying "but he was a criminal, so I don't care" it'll stay that way.
People protesting the perceived unfair treatment of a sub-group of citizens are 'rioters' while people celebrating a sports team victory are 'revelers' - the difference being cause and skin colour.
While the perception persists, there will always be civil unrest.
I guess until they quit committing the lion's share of violent crime here that perception isn't going to change.
Of the hundreds or thousands of civilians beaten robbed or killed by black thugs every year, how many of them do you suppose are criminals? Or actually innocent?
WSS
I said the perception - not necessarily reality. And until we stop seeing all these black people being killed by police, and then that being excused by people saying "but he was a criminal, so I don't care" it'll stay that way.
You're missing something pal..."but he was a criminal, so I don't care" only applies after a cop kills a thug without malice or wrongdoing and you crybabies wanna jump all over the cop.
Yeah, I'm glad Micheal Brown is dead.
People protesting the perceived unfair treatment of a sub-group of citizens are 'rioters' while people celebrating a sports team victory are 'revelers' - the difference being cause and skin colour.
Of all the inane liberal hogwash I've heard, that is the latest.
Aside from the fact that Ive never heard sports rioters being called nothing other than rioters, the only difference is that one group riots because they are angry morons, the other group riot because they are happy morons... geesh, you liberal race baiters can manufacture a black/white issue out of anything.
While the perception persists, there will always be civil unrest..
Well duh, when blacks commit the majority of violent crime then the "perception" that they do is valid don't ya think?
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There is no one reason, why can't you guys understand that? It's been pent up for decades. This argument that well if only they didn't run or resist, well it's been proven that "most" of the time white perps do the same thing they don't get the same treatment. That's a generalization because there's some "glaring" exceptions I've already talked about before. But for the most part cops aren't shooting white guys in the back when they're running away. Fuck, you all remember that family of white people outside that Walmart who literally ganged up like 6 v 3 on some cops and even tried to wrestle the guns away.....if there was ever a time for cops to shoot that would qualify absolutely. White family black family whatever....those people needed to be shot, at least the ones trying to dislodge the officers guns from their holsters. But my my what remarkable constraint when it's white faces you're struggling with. Yes, that's just one incident I get it. BUt it was still stunning to see that kind of restraint in stark contrast to the video's preceding that one by just a few days....where dude's were getting shot while handcuffed on the ground, head stomped while cuffed, old man running away from an officer etc, etc.
In any case, the bottom line is that there has to be an immediate accounting for these incidents. You can't have a man die in your custody, no matter what he did....and think that you can just raise your hands in the air and say totally weird we have no idea how this happened. Somebody is covering for somebody else, of that there is no question. And that's why people are rioting, because of the constant air about police that well we don't really give a fuck go away.
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