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  • nickers nickersN Conversation Starter Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
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    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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    Thanks but Id rather have Shonn Greene

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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      GeechG Geech wrote on last edited by
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      I didn't really see Jennings breaking tackles in the sense of plowing people over and running away, but he did break arm tackles and consistently got 2 or 3 yards after contact. I think his upright running style leads to him being easily knocked off balance. He needs to learn to bend his knees and lower his hips on contact.

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        I didn't really see Jennings breaking tackles in the sense of plowing people over and running away, but he did break arm tackles and consistently got 2 or 3 yards after contact. I think his upright running style leads to him being easily knocked off balance. He needs to learn to bend his knees and lower his hips on contact.

        -Al

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        @geech said:

        I didn't really see Jennings breaking tackles in the sense of plowing people over and running away, but he did break arm tackles and consistently got 2 or 3 yards after contact.

        2008 Regular Season Game Log Rushing Receiving Fumbles

        DATE OPP RESULT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD REC YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST

        8/30 North Greenville W 49-10 13 100 7.7 0 2 2 8 4.0 0 0 0 0

        9/6 Glenville State W 44-27 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.

        9/13 @Western Carolina W 19-16 28 116 4.1 38 0 2 3 1.5 2 0 0 0

        9/27 @Youngstown State W 31-28 29 220 7.6 55 3 1 6 6.0 6 0 0 0

        10/4 @Coastal Carolina W 43-38 35 195 5.6 35 1 3 33 11.0 23 2 0 0

        10/11 Stony Brook W 33-0 24 101 4.2 15 2 4 26 6.5 8 0 0 0

        10/18 Lafayette L 35-21 20 148 7.4 58 1 5 25 5.0 13 0 0 0

        10/25 Charleston Southern W 42-0 23 127 5.5 21 2 1 8 8.0 8 0 0 0

        11/1 @Presbyterian L 31-28 32 188 5.9 18 2 3 15 5.0 12 0 0 0

        11/8 @Virginia Military Institute W 38-26 24 147 6.1 36 2 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0

        11/15 Gardner-Webb W 30-10 14 56 4.0 7 1 2 54 27.0 42 0 0 0

        11/22 Elon W 26-3 22 109 5.0 20 1 1 12 12.0 12 0 0 0

        I saw what you saw, Al, but then when you gauge his level of competition, I'm not sure I know what the heck we'd get from the guy.

        I mean the Ravens' and Steelers' defenses are significantly better than those of, say, Glenville State and Elon...

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          Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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          Hate to say, but he looks soft for me and really doesn't possess any major cut back jukes or making people miss abilities.

          The competition level is definitely a red flag also, because he certainly doesn't appear to be dominant out there.

          Not saying dude sucks, just isn't overwhelming me here. He actually reminds of Willie Green a little bit.

          Is a pig's ass pork?
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            PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend wrote on last edited by
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            In this Video:

            Time What Happened

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            00.20 He broke 6 tackles for a 10 yd gain

            00.32 Did someone say he cant cut back?

            01:00 Did someone else say they didnt see any big plays?

            01:33 Busts his ass through 3 ppl to score while carrying someone on his foot.

            01:58 This is the play where he levels that other kid with a nice hit on the sideline then jumps out of excitement.

            02:08 Makes contact with 2 people within 10 yards then hits the last guy hard on a 15 yd gain.

            02:26 Once again... Big Play Ability

            02:43 Great Vision on that Touchdown

            03:34 A great stiffarm then he carries a guy for 10yds into the endzone

            Im sorry people, but I fail to see the validity to any of your arguments except for him running upright

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              PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend wrote on last edited by
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              Also, dont forget to read this article!! Its on OBR but everyone can read it.

              http://cle.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=2&c=845431

              Its brand new and all about Rashad Jennings and why he's so good.

              Oh, if you read the whole thing, you will notice that he's definately a Mangini esque player.

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                Jim Brown ran a pretty upright style, if I remember correctly... @@

                Big is still big, and speed is still speed. Character and toughness, durability and intelligence.

                He shows he can lower a shoulder. Remember, these highlights are from his JUNIOR year.

                The senior highlights apparently aren't out yet, but his yards were huge for the year.

                In fact, he's the only BIG rb with speed in the draft.

                Shonn Greene? Ran "slow" in the forty, no breakaway speed. A lot of safeties could catch him.

                I just just think he should be a Cleveland Brown. And don't be surprised if a team trades ahead of the Browns in the second to nab him.

                In fact, in the bottom part of the first round, I'd draft him there, too. This is a SMART kid.

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                  Jim Brown ran a pretty upright style, if I remember correctly... @@

                  Big is still big, and speed is still speed. Character and toughness, durability and intelligence.

                  He shows he can lower a shoulder. Remember, these highlights are from his JUNIOR year.

                  The senior highlights apparently aren't out yet, but his yards were huge for the year.

                  In fact, he's the only BIG rb with speed in the draft.

                  Shonn Greene? Ran "slow" in the forty, no breakaway speed. A lot of safeties could catch him.

                  I just just think he should be a Cleveland Brown. And don't be surprised if a team trades ahead of the Browns in the second to nab him.

                  In fact, in the bottom part of the first round, I'd draft him there, too. This is a SMART kid.

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                  ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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                  @calfoxwc said:

                  Big is still big

                  Myth: Jennings is BIG.

                  Fact: He weighs six more pounds than Rashard Mendenhall. Dude ain't Brandon Jacobs out there.............

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                    picky, picky, picky.

                    He's bigger than Moreno, and the other guys except for Wells and Greene sp?, who aren't near as fast, with Wells having a definate

                    durability question.

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                      picky, picky, picky.

                      He's bigger than Moreno, and the other guys except for Wells and Greene sp?, who aren't near as fast, with Wells having a definate

                      durability question.

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                      Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                      @calfoxwc said:

                      picky, picky, picky.

                      He's bigger than Moreno, and the other guys except for Wells and Greene sp?, who aren't near as fast, with Wells having a definate

                      durability question.

                      Big isn't always better. I don't see a downhill runner who breaks tackles. Not in the same class as Wells, Moreno and Brown.

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                        C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                        Big power runners haven't faired to well in the AFC North. I would rather have a quick shifty back againts physical defenses than a downhill bruiser.

                        1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                          V Vegasdogg wrote on last edited by
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                          We have a back like him in Harrison

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                            Jim Brown ran a pretty upright style, if I remember correctly... @@

                            Big is still big, and speed is still speed. Character and toughness, durability and intelligence.

                            He shows he can lower a shoulder. Remember, these highlights are from his JUNIOR year.

                            The senior highlights apparently aren't out yet, but his yards were huge for the year.

                            In fact, he's the only BIG rb with speed in the draft.

                            Shonn Greene? Ran "slow" in the forty, no breakaway speed. A lot of safeties could catch him.

                            I just just think he should be a Cleveland Brown. And don't be surprised if a team trades ahead of the Browns in the second to nab him.

                            In fact, in the bottom part of the first round, I'd draft him there, too. This is a SMART kid.

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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            In fact, he's the only BIG rb with speed in the draft.

                            Shonn Greene? Ran "slow" in the forty, no breakaway speed. A lot of safeties could catch him.

                            shonn greene's 40 time was virtually identical to jennings'. green ran a 4.63 while jennings ran a 4.64. their broad jump results were also similar, with greene having an extra inch on jennings' ten-foot jump. the big difference was in their bench press, where greene managed a WR-esque 19 reps, terrible for a power back, and jennings put up a robust 29. however, greene's running style doesn't necessitate great arm strength, as he breaks tackles mostly with leg drive and a powerful lower body, while jennings is the kind of runner who needs a good stiff arm because he runs upright.

                            @ mills: jamal lewis dominated this division for years with the ravens, and while he had breakaway speed, he was the very definition of a power back. he ran through people all the time. jerome bettis was incredibly effective with the steelers for about four years before he became their mascot. corey dillon also wasn't the fastest RB ever, but he had great vision and enough power to not go down on first contact. if anything, a RB absolutely needs either power or insane speed to get by in the AFCN. it's why willis mcgahee did well in the AFCE but has sucked since coming to the ravens.

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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              In fact, he's the only BIG rb with speed in the draft.

                              Shonn Greene? Ran "slow" in the forty, no breakaway speed. A lot of safeties could catch him.

                              shonn greene's 40 time was virtually identical to jennings'. green ran a 4.63 while jennings ran a 4.64. their broad jump results were also similar, with greene having an extra inch on jennings' ten-foot jump. the big difference was in their bench press, where greene managed a WR-esque 19 reps, terrible for a power back, and jennings put up a robust 29. however, greene's running style doesn't necessitate great arm strength, as he breaks tackles mostly with leg drive and a powerful lower body, while jennings is the kind of runner who needs a good stiff arm because he runs upright.

                              @ mills: jamal lewis dominated this division for years with the ravens, and while he had breakaway speed, he was the very definition of a power back. he ran through people all the time. jerome bettis was incredibly effective with the steelers for about four years before he became their mascot. corey dillon also wasn't the fastest RB ever, but he had great vision and enough power to not go down on first contact. if anything, a RB absolutely needs either power or insane speed to get by in the AFCN. it's why willis mcgahee did well in the AFCE but has sucked since coming to the ravens.

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                              C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                              @jewdago said:

                              shonn greene's 40 time was virtually identical to jennings'. green ran a 4.63 while jennings ran a 4.64. their broad jump results were also similar, with greene having an extra inch on jennings' ten-foot jump. the big difference was in their bench press, where greene managed a WR-esque 19 reps, terrible for a power back, and jennings put up a robust 29. however, greene's running style doesn't necessitate great arm strength, as he breaks tackles mostly with leg drive and a powerful lower body, while jennings is the kind of runner who needs a good stiff arm because he runs upright.

                              @ mills: jamal lewis dominated this division for years with the ravens, and while he had breakaway speed, he was the very definition of a power back. he ran through people all the time. jerome bettis was incredibly effective with the steelers for about four years before he became their mascot. corey dillon also wasn't the fastest RB ever, but he had great vision and enough power to not go down on first contact. if anything, a RB absolutely needs either power or insane speed to get by in the AFCN. it's why willis mcgahee did well in the AFCE but has sucked since coming to the ravens.

                              Jlew didn't face the Ravens d, the browns play the ravens and steelers. Not only that but when he played for the ravens he had the quick feet and speed of a scat back to go along with the power. And now that he lost a step you can see that his power isnt doing much against physical defenses

                              1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                                @calfoxwc said:

                                In fact, he's the only BIG rb with speed in the draft.

                                Shonn Greene? Ran "slow" in the forty, no breakaway speed. A lot of safeties could catch him.

                                shonn greene's 40 time was virtually identical to jennings'. green ran a 4.63 while jennings ran a 4.64. their broad jump results were also similar, with greene having an extra inch on jennings' ten-foot jump. the big difference was in their bench press, where greene managed a WR-esque 19 reps, terrible for a power back, and jennings put up a robust 29. however, greene's running style doesn't necessitate great arm strength, as he breaks tackles mostly with leg drive and a powerful lower body, while jennings is the kind of runner who needs a good stiff arm because he runs upright.

                                @ mills: jamal lewis dominated this division for years with the ravens, and while he had breakaway speed, he was the very definition of a power back. he ran through people all the time. jerome bettis was incredibly effective with the steelers for about four years before he became their mascot. corey dillon also wasn't the fastest RB ever, but he had great vision and enough power to not go down on first contact. if anything, a RB absolutely needs either power or insane speed to get by in the AFCN. it's why willis mcgahee did well in the AFCE but has sucked since coming to the ravens.

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                                PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend wrote on last edited by
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                                @jewdago said:

                                shonn greene's 40 time was virtually identical to jennings'. green ran a 4.63 while jennings ran a 4.64. their broad jump results were also similar, with greene having an extra inch on jennings' ten-foot jump. the big difference was in their bench press, where greene managed a WR-esque 19 reps, terrible for a power back, and jennings put up a robust 29. however, greene's running style doesn't necessitate great arm strength, as he breaks tackles mostly with leg drive and a powerful lower body, while jennings is the kind of runner who needs a good stiff arm because he runs upright.

                                @ mills: jamal lewis dominated this division for years with the ravens, and while he had breakaway speed, he was the very definition of a power back. he ran through people all the time. Jerome bettis was incredibly effective with the steelers for about four years before he became their mascot. corey dillon also wasn't the fastest RB ever, but he had great vision and enough power to not go down on first contact. if anything, a RB absolutely needs either power or insane speed to get by in the AFCN. it's why willis mcgahee did well in the AFCE but has sucked since coming to the ravens.

                                Actually, Greene's best 40 time was a 4.63, whereas Jennings best 40-time was 4.49. Jennings worst 40-time was 4.64. Believe me, Jennings is waaay faster than greene, he also weighs more. Green weighs 229, Jennings weighs 235.

                                Jennings will be a more productive back in the NFL, mark my words

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                                  @jewdago said:

                                  shonn greene's 40 time was virtually identical to jennings'. green ran a 4.63 while jennings ran a 4.64. their broad jump results were also similar, with greene having an extra inch on jennings' ten-foot jump. the big difference was in their bench press, where greene managed a WR-esque 19 reps, terrible for a power back, and jennings put up a robust 29. however, greene's running style doesn't necessitate great arm strength, as he breaks tackles mostly with leg drive and a powerful lower body, while jennings is the kind of runner who needs a good stiff arm because he runs upright.

                                  @ mills: jamal lewis dominated this division for years with the ravens, and while he had breakaway speed, he was the very definition of a power back. he ran through people all the time. Jerome bettis was incredibly effective with the steelers for about four years before he became their mascot. corey dillon also wasn't the fastest RB ever, but he had great vision and enough power to not go down on first contact. if anything, a RB absolutely needs either power or insane speed to get by in the AFCN. it's why willis mcgahee did well in the AFCE but has sucked since coming to the ravens.

                                  Actually, Greene's best 40 time was a 4.63, whereas Jennings best 40-time was 4.49. Jennings worst 40-time was 4.64. Believe me, Jennings is waaay faster than greene, he also weighs more. Green weighs 229, Jennings weighs 235.

                                  Jennings will be a more productive back in the NFL, mark my words

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                                  Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                                  @playgroundlegend said:

                                  Actually, Greene's best 40 time was a 4.63, whereas Jennings best 40-time was 4.49. Jennings worst 40-time was 4.64. Believe me, Jennings is waaay faster than greene, he also weighs more. Green weighs 229, Jennings weighs 235.

                                  Jennings will be a more productive back in the NFL, mark my words

                                  The only problem I have is when I watch film of Jennings I never see him breaking tackles or gaining yards after the first hit.

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                                    @jewdago said:

                                    shonn greene's 40 time was virtually identical to jennings'. green ran a 4.63 while jennings ran a 4.64. their broad jump results were also similar, with greene having an extra inch on jennings' ten-foot jump. the big difference was in their bench press, where greene managed a WR-esque 19 reps, terrible for a power back, and jennings put up a robust 29. however, greene's running style doesn't necessitate great arm strength, as he breaks tackles mostly with leg drive and a powerful lower body, while jennings is the kind of runner who needs a good stiff arm because he runs upright.

                                    @ mills: jamal lewis dominated this division for years with the ravens, and while he had breakaway speed, he was the very definition of a power back. he ran through people all the time. Jerome bettis was incredibly effective with the steelers for about four years before he became their mascot. corey dillon also wasn't the fastest RB ever, but he had great vision and enough power to not go down on first contact. if anything, a RB absolutely needs either power or insane speed to get by in the AFCN. it's why willis mcgahee did well in the AFCE but has sucked since coming to the ravens.

                                    Actually, Greene's best 40 time was a 4.63, whereas Jennings best 40-time was 4.49. Jennings worst 40-time was 4.64. Believe me, Jennings is waaay faster than greene, he also weighs more. Green weighs 229, Jennings weighs 235.

                                    Jennings will be a more productive back in the NFL, mark my words

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                                    @playgroundlegend said:

                                    Actually, Greene's best 40 time was a 4.63, whereas Jennings best 40-time was 4.49. Jennings worst 40-time was 4.64. Believe me, Jennings is waaay faster than greene, he also weighs more. Green weighs 229, Jennings weighs 235.

                                    A lot of this depends on the times you're using: hand-timed 40's from one site, or from another site, or the electronic "official" times NFL Network posts, etc.

                                    FWIW, nfldraftscout has Jennings running a 4.58 at the Combine (4.52 at his pro day), and they've got Greene at 4.65.

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                                      We have a back like him in Harrison

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                                      TRU STatusT TRU STatus wrote on last edited by
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                                      @vegasdogg said:

                                      We have a back like him in Harrison

                                      yea the video looks good too 🙂 I see broken tackles

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                                        @ mills: i was talking about lewis when he was a raven, when he had the quickness and explosion that made him a great back. he never had chris johnson speed; he was never a 4.25 guy, but he could bowl over a safety or corner and not get caught from behind. what makes most power backs great is nimble feet and great vision, both of which lewis had to complement his speed and power.

                                        lewis is losing his power as well as his speed. his legs don't have the drive that they once did, so he can't create the momentum that he once used to bowl guys over. he lost all of what once made him effective, not just one part of it. he's not even a power back anymore, he's ron dayne or broken shaun alexander.

                                        @ playground: i was using the times from fftoolbox, which they copied from the NFL network's official combine coverage. though jennings has had faster times, they're on different surfaces. i used the combine times because all players are on the same surface, so it's a uniform indicator.

                                        i'm not really doubting that jennings will be a productive back, i'm just pointing out that, with the opportunity to show he's fast on an even playing field, jennings showed that he and greene have similar long speed.

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                                          http://fantasysports.usatoday.com/content/...NFL&id=5273

                                          Heres what USA today had to say about the combine:

                                          Feb. 22, 2009 - 2:33 p.m. ETclear.gifLiberty RB Rashad Jennings posted unofficial 4.49 and 4.62 forty-yard dash times at the NFL Combine Sunday.clear.gifThe second time wasn't quite as good. Still, Jennings has had an impressive offseason, showing outstanding strength and good speed at 6'1/234. He will likely be bumped up draft boards after his Senior Bowl and Combine.
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