RUMOUR - Browns offer both first round picks to Titans

WalterWhite

Browns offer two 1st-round picks to Titans for No. 2 overall selection, where they would plan to take Marcus Mariota. (via @PatMcManamon)

Mudfly

pretty vague for insider info....eh?......both of this years picks?.....or 19 and next years 1?......or 12 and next years 1?

Mr. Make-Believe

How legit is this? I have trouble believing this would get leaked so specifically.

miktoxic

just heard that too.

i think the titans will want more.

well at least farmer isn't sitting on his hands.

Louisville Slugger

There's no way Tennessee would take that. St. Louis got 3 1st and 2nd in the RG3 trade. If we are only giving up 2 1st they are going to get a significant player also. Maybe Joe Thomas Alex Mack or tashaun Gipson

hoorta

@walterwhite said:

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Browns offer two 1st-round picks to Titans for No. 2 overall selection, where they would plan to take Marcus Mariota. (via @PatMcManamon)

And the Titans have supposedly turned that and more down. Non story. Farmer is now officially a doofus in my book. Rule #1 of drafting- don't fall in love with a particular player.

The Gipper

Well, then, we would have 3 first round draft picks invested in QBs.....neither of whom we think would be at all ready to play in the NFL

(and truly....see another post of mine....a rookie QB should NOT be expected to play in the NFL). Both of whom could be total busts.

Well....QB is our most desperate time.....and desperate times call for desperate measures.

The Gipper

@louisville-slugger said:
There's no way Tennessee would take that. St. Louis got 3 1st and 2nd in the RG3 trade. If we are only giving up 2 1st they are going to get a significant player also. Maybe Joe Thomas Alex Mack or tashaun Gipson

JFF

Mr. Make-Believe

Yeah I can't imagine the Titans would agree to this either. But as a starting point in negotiations? Perhaps.

I just find it odd that Farmer would choose this strategy for Mariota. As fierce as the rumors have been.

miktoxic

@mr.-make-believe said:
How legit is this? I have trouble believing this would get leaked so specifically.

you can't do anything these days without something slipping out on social media. i don't know how legit it is but they just reported it on ESPN (take that for what it's worth).

i would have hoped we kept one of the first rounders for this year but maybe farmer thinks he can trade back up into the first or trade up for another pick in the 2nd..........who knows. or maybe he wants the card for kelly to come offer his team on a silver platter. just hope it has nothing to do with bradford. then we'd be on the list of bum QBs on our roster.

or this could be farmer's way of making other teams show their hands.

Louisville Slugger

I highly doubt Johnny has any trade value at this point.

Tim Couch Pulls Out

@louisville-slugger said:
There's no way Tennessee would take that. St. Louis got 3 1st and 2nd in the RG3 trade. If we are only giving up 2 1st they are going to get a significant player also. Maybe Joe Thomas Alex Mack or tashaun Gipson

And, because of that trade, nobody will offer that much again. That trade both set and then consequently destroyed the market for trading up into the top 10. We can offer two firsts and let Tennessee shop around, they won't get a similar deal. If Tennessee is set on Mariota, nothing will budge them out of that spot. If they aren't set on taking Mariota, that puts us in the driver's seat.

@the-gipper said:
JFF

Wouldn't that be something?

secondwave

Same stupid GM. Different year.

The Gipper

@hoorta said:

And the Titans have supposedly turned that and more down. Non story. Farmer is now officially a doofus in my book. Rule #1 of drafting- don't fall in love with a particular player.

I don't know if he is a doofus.

A. He apparently does have marching orders from Jimmah......get me a QB.

B. QB is the Browns most urgent need.....and QB is the most important position on the field....yada yada.

C. The Browns really don't have a reliable QB

So 2 first round picks would not be so bad for the right guy....but:

D. Is this the "right guy"? No one...no one thinks he is a sure thing. As far as I am concerned he would need to sit for at least a year or more....but:

E. If it turns out....if this guy is the next Donovan McNabb or some such, then 2 1st rounders would work.

miktoxic

@secondwave said:
Same stupid GM. Different year.

GTFO.

you obviously know squadoosh.

The Gipper

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

And, because of that trade, nobody will offer that much again. That trade both set and then consequently destroyed the market for trading up into the top 10. We can offer two firsts and let Tennessee shop around, they won't get a similar deal. If Tennessee is set on Mariota, nothing will budge them out of that spot. If they aren't set on taking Mariota, that puts us in the driver's seat.

Fair point......Tennesse says "Washington paid X for RGIII....that's what we want." 31 other teams say....."yea, and look what Washington got for all that X.....a pile of doodoo maybe, so NO, you can't have that much....take it or leave it." Then the Tits would have to decide.

tiamat63

@miktoxic said:

GTFO.

you obviously know squadoosh.

He meant to say, different stupid GM, different year.

Honestly, Mariota is Hawiian RG3 minus the knee. Which, if he plays anything like Robert did he rookie year, the knee injury will come shortly.

mdmusch

None of us saw Manziel behind closed doors last year. I appreciate that Haden and Thomas are going to the media recently to help support Manziel. However we just don't know at this point. Hes a true question mark. Two scenarios below if we can draft Mariota.

Trade Manziel and get two conditional picks for 2016 and 2017 drafts and keep Mariota. This would be my key to the Mariota trade up. Try to get a deal done with the Saints, Chargers, Eagles, or Cowboys for 2016 and 2017 7th Rounders that can be worth up to a 2nd's depending on the escalators (specifically 2017, when Manziel could be a fulltime starter to actually hit the escalators)

Another thing would be to draft Mariota and then turn him around the the Eagles for Bradford, 20, and an additional player/pick.

Browns_Fucking_Rule

According to this, the Browns never even made this offer to the titans

https://twitter.com/TheRealLA__

miktoxic

@tiamat63 said:

He meant to say, different stupid GM, different year.

Honestly, Mariota is Hawiian RG3 minus the knee. Which, if he plays anything like Robert did he rookie year, the knee injury will come shortly.

first off he might be off the table at 2. then it's either winston or field all other offers for him.

how can farmer be dumb for looking for a franchise QB? if you think it was farmer that picked manziel last year you are out of your mind.

besides we don't know what this is. if anything i see deflippo as the driving force behind anything mariota. i'm sure pettine wants defense. if all it costs is 2 first to move up and get the guy you want then that's pretty cheap (for a franchise QB). does he come with question? sure, but not off the field.