Official 2015 Draft: Day Two Thread
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Cooper is a hell of a 3tech pass rusher. Go watch some film on this kid. When Anderson went off the board I was looking Dline, was just watching him when the pick was announced. I LOVE his motor.
Cooper is a hell of a 3tech pass rusher. Go watch some film on this kid. When Anderson went off the board I was looking Dline, was just watching him when the pick was announced. I LOVE his motor.
Which helps our woes against the run how, exactly?
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Clearly there is a plan for this team finally. We built the trenches on both sides so we will stop the run and be able to run. We filled our receiving corps through free agency (don't understand the clamoring for one in the draft, I think this class is very overrated) with Hartline, Bowe, and Hawkins. Our pass defense is already solid. Our pass offense depends on Manziel/McCown. If either QB steps up and plays well we will be a playoff team this season, barring any freakish injuries.
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Another good draft day for the Browns. No sure about a RB, but I do like the Defensive picks.
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Cooper is a hell of a 3tech pass rusher. Go watch some film on this kid. When Anderson went off the board I was looking Dline, was just watching him when the pick was announced. I LOVE his motor.
Cooper is a hell of a 3tech pass rusher. Go watch some film on this kid. When Anderson went off the board I was looking Dline, was just watching him when the pick was announced. I LOVE his motor.
I hope we don't try to bulk him up like we did Billy.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Well, Canton Mike and I were surprised at the Duke Johnson, rb pick !
But we've said all along that what the Browns do, it's because they KNOW what they are DOING.
And, after reading up on the rb they picked...okay, now I get it. And, "he doesn't pass block" is
bogus.
Some "experts" had said he could be a late first or second round player.
Really nice job. Just a heck of a surprise !
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Which helps our woes against the run how, exactly?
Because he plays the run like he plays the pass. Shoots a gap, disrupts in the backfield and let's the linebackers clean things up.
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I hope we don't try to bulk him up like we did Billy.
I would be beyond pissed if his kid was asked to go up anything past another 5lbs. His first step is lightning fast and his hand usage, while not consistent, is violent.
Also, according to PFF my eyes are pretty good about his pass Rush abilities. They ranked him as the 4th best pass rusher against Power 5 opponents in this DT class.
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That's the difference between a superbowl team and a non-playoff team. Why the hell didn't we spend some of those picks we spent on a 2nd DT on this guy?
I just don't get it, but apparently the Seahawks do.
I'm a big Lockett fan but he is a little dude. I have some buddies from K St. who are huge fans obviously but weren't high on his ability to remain healthy after transferring to the NFL. He's basically a Harvin clone so I get why the Seahawks went after him but I also get the hesitation as well. Picking him that high is a bit of a luxury pick, one the Seahawks can afford to take. We, unfortunately, aren't in a position to do so.
It is what it is.
I was caught off guard a bit by the Duke Johnson pick but I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume Farmer is just a smidgen better at talent evaluation than myself.
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That's the difference between a superbowl team and a non-playoff team. Why the hell didn't we spend some of those picks we spent on a 2nd DT on this guy?
I just don't get it, but apparently the Seahawks do.
I'm a big Lockett fan but he is a little dude. I have some buddies from K St. who are huge fans obviously but weren't high on his ability to remain healthy after transferring to the NFL. He's basically a Harvin clone so I get why the Seahawks went after him but I also get the hesitation as well. Picking him that high is a bit of a luxury pick, one the Seahawks can afford to take. We, unfortunately, aren't in a position to do so.
It is what it is.
I was caught off guard a bit by the Duke Johnson pick but I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume Farmer is just a smidgen better at talent evaluation than myself.
I'm a big Lockett fan but he is a little dude. I have some buddies from K St. who are huge fans obviously but weren't high on his ability to remain healthy after transferring to the NFL. He's basically a Harvin clone so I get why the Seahawks went after him but I also get the hesitation as well. Picking him that high is a bit of a luxury pick, one the Seahawks can afford to take. We, unfortunately, aren't in a position to do so.
It is what it is.
I was caught off guard a bit by the Duke Johnson pick but I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume Farmer is just a smidgen better at talent evaluation than myself.
Well after I saw the Duke Johnson tape covering his return man abilities, it made a lot more sense. That was the main reason I wanted Lockett, plus he could be a good slot guy. And since apparently DJ handles passes out of the backfield well too, that also makes sense. Guess I am just disappointed that we didn't find a way to make room. Too many needs.
Wouldn't it be something if they convert DJ to the slot and just keep the RB's we have right where they are! But I suspect they did not like the fumble problems from the RB position.
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After reading about Cooper - real nice job.
There has to be a small college burner wr who can catch the ball somewhere.....under the radar....
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How did Johnson look as a KR/PR? I know as a RB he looked pretty good catching the ball and being elusive but the Browns already had two good RBs.
How did Johnson look as a KR/PR? I know as a RB he looked pretty good catching the ball and being elusive but the Browns already had two good RBs.
As a KR he had 28 returns, 33 avg., 2 td
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I'm a big Lockett fan but he is a little dude. I have some buddies from K St. who are huge fans obviously but weren't high on his ability to remain healthy after transferring to the NFL. He's basically a Harvin clone so I get why the Seahawks went after him but I also get the hesitation as well. Picking him that high is a bit of a luxury pick, one the Seahawks can afford to take. We, unfortunately, aren't in a position to do so.
It is what it is.
I was caught off guard a bit by the Duke Johnson pick but I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume Farmer is just a smidgen better at talent evaluation than myself.
Well after I saw the Duke Johnson tape covering his return man abilities, it made a lot more sense. That was the main reason I wanted Lockett, plus he could be a good slot guy. And since apparently DJ handles passes out of the backfield well too, that also makes sense. Guess I am just disappointed that we didn't find a way to make room. Too many needs.
Wouldn't it be something if they convert DJ to the slot and just keep the RB's we have right where they are! But I suspect they did not like the fumble problems from the RB position.
Well after I saw the Duke Johnson tape covering his return man abilities, it made a lot more sense. That was the main reason I wanted Lockett, plus he could be a good slot guy. And since apparently DJ handles passes out of the backfield well too, that also makes sense. Guess I am just disappointed that we didn't find a way to make room. Too many needs.
I get it my man. I was in the same boat. Lockett was one of the few guys I really pulling for in this draft but we didn't trade the farm and have solidified our lines so I can't be too disappointed.
[/FFC0CB] Plus we get to spend yet another summer discussing JM which I'm sure everyone is totally stoked about. [/FFC0CB]
Pink font for sarcasm correct?
Edit: I tried. The whole phone thing makes it difficult. Thank God I'm not a Web Dev. EDIT: us mods aim to please.
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Question: why do you guys want small, fast receivers when we have Hawkins and Gabriel? Doesn't make sense to me. But if you really want one that's under the radar (and you ask nicely and leave me cookies):
DeAndrew White
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Question: why do you guys want small, fast receivers when we have Hawkins and Gabriel? Doesn't make sense to me. But if you really want one that's under the radar (and you ask nicely and leave me cookies):
DeAndrew White
Question: why do you guys want small, fast receivers when we have Hawkins and Gabriel? Doesn't make sense to me. But if you really want one that's under the radar (and you ask nicely and leave me cookies):
DeAndrew White
I wanted Lockett for everything he did for KSU-the "It" factor in everything he did including team leadership. Not just a small receiver.
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After reading about Cooper - real nice job.
There has to be a small college burner wr who can catch the ball somewhere.....under the radar....
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Question: why do you guys want small, fast receivers when we have Hawkins and Gabriel? Doesn't make sense to me. But if you really want one that's under the radar (and you ask nicely and leave me cookies):
DeAndrew White
Question: why do you guys want small, fast receivers when we have Hawkins and Gabriel? Doesn't make sense to me. But if you really want one that's under the radar (and you ask nicely and leave me cookies):
DeAndrew White
I want a receiver that first and foremost, can catch the ball. No thanks.
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Round 1 Pick 12: Danny Shelton, DT, Washington (A+)
Round 1 Pick 19: Cameron Erving, OT/C, Florida State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 13 (MINN): Nate Orchard, OLB/DE, Utah (
Round 3 Pick 12 (MINN): Xavier Cooper, DT/DE, Washington St. (A)
Round 3 Pick 13: David Johnson, RB, Northern Iowa (A+)
Round 4 Pick 12
Round 4 Pick 16
Round 5 Pick 11
Round 6 Pick 13
Round 6 Pick 26
Round 7 Pick 12
Really hard to recreate this draft.
Some drafts have Shelton going Top 10, some have Cameron Erving going Top 10. Orchard is usually there but Duke Johnson is NEVER there! The last Mock I did had Duke going in the first round on a trade down to the Cowboys in the mid 20s. He's all over the board late first to mid second. Xavier Cooper is even coming off the board very early in the third round. I'd say our FO did a solid job at getting us great players that should most likely have been long gone by the time we picked them up. Can't wait until tomorrow to go to Farmer's Market.
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Very very happy with the Nate Orchard and Xavier Cooper picks. Cooper is a gem, if he had longer arms he probably would have gone early second round, but the guys motor and hands fit the 'Play like a Brown' mantra.
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