Who's next?
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yep////Pettine said yesterday that the left side is good......they are looking right........
yep////Pettine said yesterday that the left side is good......they are looking right........
Well then that still leaves the question on who does Ervine replace. Is he really capable of playing RT? IS he good enough to unseat Greco? People keep forgetting that Greco was one of the best guards in the league last year.
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Clemmings, O'Leary, Fowler, ILB tomorrow. Everyone good with that?
Tour, I know Clemmings isn't your favorite by any means, but surely he's good value in rounds 4+, right?
One of the analysts was saying Clemmings got overwhelmed at the Senior Bowl while Donovan Smith from Penn State showed up and pleasantly surprised a lot of NFL teams at the Senior Bowl practices.
I'm kind of glad O'Leary ran his forty like a parked car because I think he's crafty and plays faster than he times for a stopwatch. As the draft analysts for the NFL Channel said - a lot of knuckleheads temporarily working in NFL Front Offices erased an excellent football prospect like Shelton for his 40 time as if film told them zero. There's still enough of that crack pipe logic going around that will place a day 3 bargain like O'Leary on possibly the perfect doorstep. Let's just hope it isn't Pittsburgh's.
I'm kind of glad O'Leary ran his forty like a parked car because I think he's crafty and plays faster than he times for a stopwatch.
I tend to recall a chubby, non athletic looking guy years ago who showed a crafty, competitive, intelligent side on the golf course. Maybe he wasn't a football player, but O'Leary having some of his Grandfather, Jack Nicklaus's, qualities is nothing to sneeze at.
Mike
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yep////Pettine said yesterday that the left side is good......they are looking right........
Well then that still leaves the question on who does Ervine replace. Is he really capable of playing RT? IS he good enough to unseat Greco? People keep forgetting that Greco was one of the best guards in the league last year.
Well then that still leaves the question on who does Ervine replace. Is he really capable of playing RT? IS he good enough to unseat Greco? People keep forgetting that Greco was one of the best guards in the league last year.
It's a good problem to have.......
I think Bowie & Schwartz are RT.....and Erving competes with Greco and provides the depth we so desperately needed last year...
Maybe he sits a year to learn.... or maybe he owns it right out of the gate....but we all should sleep better having him
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They need all the Olinemen they can get because our Defense is going to tear them up haha. Seriously though, having to go AGAINST our defense day in-day out will only make our offensive unit that much stronger!
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yep////Pettine said yesterday that the left side is good......they are looking right........
Well then that still leaves the question on who does Ervine replace. Is he really capable of playing RT? IS he good enough to unseat Greco? People keep forgetting that Greco was one of the best guards in the league last year.
Well then that still leaves the question on who does Ervine replace. Is he really capable of playing RT? IS he good enough to unseat Greco? People keep forgetting that Greco was one of the best guards in the league last year.
I'm not sure what to make of Greco's 2014 season in terms of how permanent the results are. It seemed like more of an exception to the rule than the rule if we delve into his career overall. That's not to take away my appreciation of where he took his game. I also read in the preseason he lost some weight which looked like it really paid off in his performance/quickness/getting to the next level. I get the sense our offensive staff and Farmer identified our right side as a place we can improve talent and upside. My gut says Guard and I think one of the networks announced Erving as a Guard whether that matters or not. I think Bowie is the guy that will try to compete with Schwartz for the RT job.
Minus the game Shanny identified JJ Watt as Houston's weakest link against the run with plans to run at him almost exclusively, I've always liked our ability to run outside of Schwartz especially during those years it was almost impossible to run inside of him. That told me he can run block if our game plans are somewhat reasonable. His cleats have a had a tendency to look like they weighed 100 pounds a apiece sometimes in pass protections especially when inexperienced QBs held onto the ball for prolonged periods. This 2nd round investment won't be easy to beat out especially if the existence of Bowie has Schwartz showing up in the best shape of his career. You never know what the perceived threat of losing a starting job can do at RG, RT or any position for that matter. Whatever the case may be the improved competition can only make us better. Stay tuned...
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They need all the Olinemen they can get because our Defense is going to tear them up haha. Seriously though, having to go AGAINST our defense day in-day out will only make our offensive unit that much stronger!
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Diggs is one of the few remaining WR's who has the best chance to develop into a 1000+ yard receiver. He never really lived up to his hype coming into college, but he also played for a lot of lack luster QB's at Maryland.
Thanks for sharing that!
I don't know if we'll need any rookie WR to give us 1000 yards; but a WR Corps that needs more TDs and good yards per catch might have some worthy volunteers pissed they haven't been drafted yet. In particular, there's a WR from Central Michigan (Titus Davis) that keeps jumping off the page at me as intrigue for today. He's 196 lbs at 6'1". Here's his numbers against their level of competition:
2011 6 starts 40 rec 751 yds 18.8 ypc 8 TD
2012 12 starts 43 rec 860 yds 20.0 ypc 8 TD
2013 11 starts 61 rec 1109 yds 18.2 ypc 8 TD
2014 10 starts 60 rec 985 yds 16.4 ypc 13 TD
Thanks for sharing that!
I don't know if we'll need any rookie WR to give us 1000 yards; but a WR Corps that needs more TDs and good yards per catch might have some worthy volunteers pissed they haven't been drafted yet. In particular, there's a WR from Central Michigan (Titus Davis) that keeps jumping off the page at me as intrigue for today. He's 196 lbs at 6'1". Here's his numbers against their level of competition:
2011 6 starts 40 rec 751 yds 18.8 ypc 8 TD
2012 12 starts 43 rec 860 yds 20.0 ypc 8 TD
2013 11 starts 61 rec 1109 yds 18.2 ypc 8 TD
2014 10 starts 60 rec 985 yds 16.4 ypc 13 TD
Didn't want this to get lost today for those of you worrying about what kinds of WRs might be left...
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Mycole Pruitt TE
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/mycole-pruitt?id=2552401
And is this guy still available ?....a sleeper in a lot of mocks I have seen
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/titus-davis?id=2552426
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my only question on the few TE's that are left out there is do any of them have a chance to beat out the existing group?
my only question on the few TE's that are left out there is do any of them have a chance to beat out the existing group?
Top 3 left according to NFL network
Rory Anderson South Carolina
Anderson's athleticism and play speed is what NFL teams dream of when looking for tight ends to threaten vertically and create matchup problems underneath. While he needs to add more weight to his frame, Anderson shows the blocking fundamentals to be considered a legitimate combination tight end in the NFL. Anderson's biggest concern on draft day and beyond looks like it could be his recurring triceps injuries.
Nick O'Leary Fla.St
O'Leary has the competitive spirit and toughness that teams look for in a dual-threat tight end, but he lacks the physical traits. Based on how Florida State used him, he is an easy projection to an H-back spot where he should be an effective move-blocker and pass-catcher.
Ben Koyack Notre Dame
Underutilized in the passing game while at Notre Dame. Strong understanding and execution as a run blocker with the physical traits to be a tough matchup in the passing game. Still raw as a receiver and will need more individual work with a position coach on the next level. College production belies his pro potential.
A guy I like that we can probably get in the 6th or 7th
Blake Bell Oklahoma
A newly converted tight end who was a short-yardage specialist and red-zone brute for the Sooners as a quarterback. Bell was looked over by scouting community during the regular season, but he has flashed sure hands and shown improvement as a blocker and could have an NFL future if a team is willing to be patient with him.
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Tour - do you think it might be possible they have in mind to put Erving into Bitonio's spot and move him over to RT?
Tour - do you think it might be possible they have in mind to put Erving into Bitonio's spot and move him over to RT?
Something Flugs and I agree upon... no, don't see that. But Greco sliding out to RT could be an option. His technique and veteran savvy might work there... he certainly has the punch to play OT.
You're fine. For all the pre-draft research and goodies you contribute to this place - I think you've earned the right to question if there weren't healthier choices available.
I disagree about the versatility thing getting overblown especially walking in our shoes as a fan base. Aside from that, I've seen instances of quite a few guys that couldn't handle 1 role but could provide reliability in another (which is the opposite of versatility). For example, both Tony Mandarach and Robert Gallery were overwhelmed as OTs before settling in as reliable/good OGs. Greco's first few quarters at Center in a fill in role looked like we found our replacement for Mack that easily. Our next opponent had 1 week to identify and exploit any vulnerabilities; and they did that enough for us to see Greco back at Guard the very next game. I DO realize part of that was our replacement at RG was a train wreck from a guy we hoped offered us some position flexibility.
Nice history lesson... only lacked the name of the true issue vs. JAX... Paul McQuistan... and the knowledge that he was the problem. My grade for him that week was -26. He went from RG vs. JAX to the waiver wire after pausing at the our bench for the balance of the season.
That many/ most players cannot handle both inside and outside O-line positions is not news.
I could go on, but won't as I've earned that right, too...
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Tour - do you think it might be possible they have in mind to put Erving into Bitonio's spot and move him over to RT?
Something Flugs and I agree upon... no, don't see that. But Greco sliding out to RT could be an option. His technique and veteran savvy might work there... he certainly has the punch to play OT.
You're fine. For all the pre-draft research and goodies you contribute to this place - I think you've earned the right to question if there weren't healthier choices available.
I disagree about the versatility thing getting overblown especially walking in our shoes as a fan base. Aside from that, I've seen instances of quite a few guys that couldn't handle 1 role but could provide reliability in another (which is the opposite of versatility). For example, both Tony Mandarach and Robert Gallery were overwhelmed as OTs before settling in as reliable/good OGs. Greco's first few quarters at Center in a fill in role looked like we found our replacement for Mack that easily. Our next opponent had 1 week to identify and exploit any vulnerabilities; and they did that enough for us to see Greco back at Guard the very next game. I DO realize part of that was our replacement at RG was a train wreck from a guy we hoped offered us some position flexibility.
Nice history lesson... only lacked the name of the true issue vs. JAX... Paul McQuistan... and the knowledge that he was the problem. My grade for him that week was -26. He went from RG vs. JAX to the waiver wire after pausing at the our bench for the balance of the season.
That many/ most players cannot handle both inside and outside O-line positions is not news.
I could go on, but won't as I've earned that right, too...
Something Flugs and I agree upon... no, don't see that. But Greco sliding out to RT could be an option. His technique and veteran savvy might work there... he certainly has the punch to play OT.
Nice history lesson... only lacked the name of the true issue vs. JAX... Paul McQuistan... and the knowledge that he was the problem. My grade for him that week was -26. He went from RG vs. JAX to the waiver wire after pausing at the our bench for the balance of the season.
That many/ most players cannot handle both inside and outside O-line positions is not news.
I could go on, but won't as I've earned that right, too...
Not sure why you're getting snippy when I thought I was complimenting all your draft research and contributions...
I did indeed talk about the RG which appears right in the very last sentence of the cut and paste you used from me above your reply. Here's a second cut and paste of that since you never read it the first time: I DO realize part of that was our replacement at RG was a train wreck from a guy we hoped offered us some position flexibility.
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I saw that... Just pointed out that the name was McQuistan... and he was the problem.
Not sure why you're so defensive.
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