Farm's and Pet's Day 3 Presser
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Just finished it myself. Two very smart guys. Let me say that the "play like a Brown" thing is gay. I get what they mean, but little gimmick phrases like that in sports always makes me cringe a little.
Liked what they had to say about the guys they got. I like how they handle the tough questions. Seem to have a lot of faith in their QB room. Seem highly confident in the guys they got and were adamant that they "stuck to the plan." Farmer certainly left the door wide open for some of these very guys to be cut this summer.
Any thoughts, Tour?
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No, "Play like a Brown" is just a quicker way of saying "love the game, give a 100 percent, character, dedicatation,
be a great teammate, smart, etc etc etc etc". Why expect them to go into a five minute oration explaining
it every time?
I LOVE listening to real answers to questions - Farmer and Pettine are flat out honest, and they
know what they are talking about.
LOVe the draft.
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Some interesting and pointed questions... and answers... sometimes.
Some interesting and pointed questions... and answers... sometimes.
Is it safe to say thanks today?
You know what a smart philosopher like WunDumSon never figured out? How does a band that called itself War end up with "Why Can't We be Friends?" as their biggest hit?
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Just finished it myself. Two very smart guys. Let me say that the "play like a Brown" thing is gay. I get what they mean, but little gimmick phrases like that in sports always makes me cringe a little.
Liked what they had to say about the guys they got. I like how they handle the tough questions. Seem to have a lot of faith in their QB room. Seem highly confident in the guys they got and were adamant that they "stuck to the plan." Farmer certainly left the door wide open for some of these very guys to be cut this summer.
Any thoughts, Tour?
Any thoughts, Tour?
First, there are a lot of Aggie traditions that seem "gay" to the uninitiated. Only later do you find out about their roots in tradition.
Second, I think cal nailed it. Our staff actually spent time and effort on distilling to a simple phrase their desire to reconnect their team to this franchise's winning traditions and great players of the past.
It's going to take time for any whiff of contrivance to fade away completely... and we are all on our own schedule.
As for their comments on the draft and team...
Yes, going to see names we know leave us later this summer. It's all about the competition. Some may be big enough and go early enough to garner some trade value.
I think they are "OK" with their QB room. But I found Farmer's Petty discussion difficult to follow. They seemed to be the questions Farmer was most careful in answering. Personally I think he had no real interest in Bryce and was just trying to make me feel better.
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Some interesting and pointed questions... and answers... sometimes.
Is it safe to say thanks today?
You know what a smart philosopher like WunDumSon never figured out? How does a band that called itself War end up with "Why Can't We be Friends?" as their biggest hit?
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No comparison between hundred year old Aggie traditions and a phrase they just made up this year.
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I typically like Pettine and Farmer in their press conferences and this was pretty much the same. I do think the post-draft pressers are a bit bullshitty since no team is going to say "yeah we didn't address certain needs, some of the players we drafted aren't that good and overall we are pretty disappointed".
That being said I have to agree with this "play like a Brown" and "we don't draft names" is nonsense. You drafted Johnny Maziel for shit's sake and that was a fucking reach at 22 and a debacle.
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I like the slogan "Play Like a Brown" but at the end of the season my concern was that saying was just an empty phrase. When I saw the discipline Pettine administered to Manziel, Gilbert and Gordon for their bad behavior I saw that they mean it. Gordon was not allowed on the plane to Baltimore and Manziel and Gilbert were forced to stay in the locker room and not allowed to come on the field. They were the holdouts though while the rest of the team were buying into the philosophy of Pettine.
Gilbert has promised it will be different this season and Manziel is doing all the right things after rehab. I hope Gordon can straighten himself out as well.
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Farmer seems to be comfortable in his role in GM and said many things I agree with. Pettine was relaxed and confident. No bullsh-t with these guys. As a life long fan I want to buy in. This draft has renewed my faith in the front office. Leaving Farmer and his staff alone is the best thing Haslam can do.
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I wonder if a lot of the low-key movement (or lack thereof) at receiver is a product of a belief Gordon will be back. That, and the idea that having elite receivers isn't that important. Of course to us, it looks like he's a lost cause, but they COULD know something we don't and view him as effectively a great 2016 draft pick. Who knows.
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I wonder if a lot of the low-key movement (or lack thereof) at receiver is a product of a belief Gordon will be back. That, and the idea that having elite receivers isn't that important. Of course to us, it looks like he's a lost cause, but they COULD know something we don't and view him as effectively a great 2016 draft pick. Who knows.
I wonder if a lot of the low-key movement (or lack thereof) at receiver is a product of a belief Gordon will be back. That, and the idea that having elite receivers isn't that important. Of course to us, it looks like he's a lost cause, but they COULD know something we don't and view him as effectively a great 2016 draft pick. Who knows.
I think Farmer is anti-measurables which is his perogative
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No comparison between hundred year old Aggie traditions and a phrase they just made up this year.
No comparison between hundred year old Aggie traditions and a phrase they just made up this year.
Have to start somewhere.
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No comparison between hundred year old Aggie traditions and a phrase they just made up this year.
No comparison between hundred year old Aggie traditions and a phrase they just made up this year.
My point was the difference is time. That was the comparison.
I wonder if a lot of the low-key movement (or lack thereof) at receiver is a product of a belief Gordon will be back. That, and the idea that having elite receivers isn't that important. Of course to us, it looks like he's a lost cause, but they COULD know something we don't and view him as effectively a great 2016 draft pick. Who knows.
I doubt Gordon is much of a consideration. If he comes back and adds value, great. If not, we move on... same as other disappointments.
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No comparison between hundred year old Aggie traditions and a phrase they just made up this year.
My point was the difference is time. That was the comparison.
I wonder if a lot of the low-key movement (or lack thereof) at receiver is a product of a belief Gordon will be back. That, and the idea that having elite receivers isn't that important. Of course to us, it looks like he's a lost cause, but they COULD know something we don't and view him as effectively a great 2016 draft pick. Who knows.
I doubt Gordon is much of a consideration. If he comes back and adds value, great. If not, we move on... same as other disappointments.
My point was the difference is time. That was the comparison.
I doubt Gordon is much of a consideration. If he comes back and adds value, great. If not, we move on... same as other disappointments.
Right.....Gordon = Zero.....to this roster
He's gone in my mind..."poof"....not even a thought....he wont make one difference to anything thats gonna happen....
Next year?...who knows...but wont even give it a thought until then...he'll just be a bonus "if" he ever see's the field again(for us)
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No comparison between hundred year old Aggie traditions and a phrase they just made up this year.
No comparison between hundred year old Aggie traditions and a phrase they just made up this year.
Here are the Browns they want them to play like:
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No comparison between hundred year old Aggie traditions and a phrase they just made up this year.
Have to start somewhere.
Have to start somewhere.
True, but perhaps now is not the time.
Any outsider upon hearing "play like a brown" would find that rather comical.
The "play like a brown" mantra should be earned. Should the 2015 Browns put together a superb season and demonstrate to the rest of the NFL that they have established themselves a force to be reckoned with, then yeah Pet, go with it to motivate players toward maintaining a winning culture.
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I didn't wanna say it if no one else would, but, my thoughts exactly.
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Have to start somewhere.
True, but perhaps now is not the time.
Any outsider upon hearing "play like a brown" would find that rather comical.
The "play like a brown" mantra should be earned. Should the 2015 Browns put together a superb season and demonstrate to the rest of the NFL that they have established themselves a force to be reckoned with, then yeah Pet, go with it to motivate players toward maintaining a winning culture.
Stuart said:
True, but perhaps now is not the time.
Any outsider upon hearing "play like a brown" would find that rather comical.
The "play like a brown" mantra should be earned. Should the 2015 Browns put together a superb season and demonstrate to the rest of the NFL that they have established themselves a force to be reckoned with, then yeah Pet, go with it to motivate players toward maintaining a winning culture.
you both are comical.
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Have to start somewhere.
True, but perhaps now is not the time.
Any outsider upon hearing "play like a brown" would find that rather comical.
The "play like a brown" mantra should be earned. Should the 2015 Browns put together a superb season and demonstrate to the rest of the NFL that they have established themselves a force to be reckoned with, then yeah Pet, go with it to motivate players toward maintaining a winning culture.
Stuart said:
True, but perhaps now is not the time.
Any outsider upon hearing "play like a brown" would find that rather comical.
The "play like a brown" mantra should be earned. Should the 2015 Browns put together a superb season and demonstrate to the rest of the NFL that they have established themselves a force to be reckoned with, then yeah Pet, go with it to motivate players toward maintaining a winning culture.
Couldn't disagree more.....NOW is the perfect time.....New players, new staff and raised expectations....
and the mantra, as you call it, is simply a way of establishing standards and clearly defining them for all to see.....most great organizations do that......then you win points for practicing what you preach.....simple....
So, while I wouldn't compare it to an old college tradition(it's really more like a new corporate slogan), it's certainly a good way to define who they want to be & articulate that to the players and the masses.....and hold it out there for everyone to see.....Im down with it 100%.....
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Nice article on "Playing like a Brown"
Cleveland Browns Head Coach Mike Pettine has clear vision to build team into winners
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