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  • TexasAg1969 T Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
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    The thing I like is the willingness to learn because we have some damn good D coaches to spend time in the film room with him to develop play recognition.

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      The thing I like is the willingness to learn because we have some damn good D coaches to spend time in the film room with him to develop play recognition.

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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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      @texasag1969 said:

      The thing I like is the willingness to learn because we have some damn good D coaches to spend time in the film room with him to develop play recognition.

      Play recognition is film study, instinct and how fast you process your keys as a defender. Probably the 3 most important attrubutes for any defensive position.

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        @texasag1969 said:

        The thing I like is the willingness to learn because we have some damn good D coaches to spend time in the film room with him to develop play recognition.

        Play recognition is film study, instinct and how fast you process your keys as a defender. Probably the 3 most important attrubutes for any defensive position.

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        Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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        @tiamat63 said:

        Play recognition is film study, instinct and how fast you process your keys as a defender. Probably the 3 most important attrubutes for any defensive position.

        Do you work in sports?

        I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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          @tiamat63 said:

          Play recognition is film study, instinct and how fast you process your keys as a defender. Probably the 3 most important attrubutes for any defensive position.

          Do you work in sports?

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          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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          @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

          Do you work in sports?

          Does it truly matter?

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          • tiamat63T tiamat63

            @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

            Do you work in sports?

            Does it truly matter?

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            Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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            @tiamat63 said:

            Does it truly matter?

            Well, I was asking honestly...but you answered even more with your response.

            I can see why you don't.

            I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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              @tiamat63 said:

              Does it truly matter?

              Well, I was asking honestly...but you answered even more with your response.

              I can see why you don't.

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              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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              @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

              Well, I was asking honestly...but you answered even more with your response.

              I can see why you don't.

              Funny, I edited my first response.

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              • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

                @tour2ma said:

                Thought might thread each of our draftees' game films for review and comment.

                Here's the only 2014 footage on Hayes at draftbreakdown.com ... his BC game. Short tape only 04:14 long.

                http://draftbreakdown.com/video/hayes-pullard-vs-boston-college-2014/

                There are a few more films from prior years.

                Very rough start... looked indecisive and slow to react to what I presume were his keys even as they climbed into his lap. Often was blocked standing right where he started still diagnosing. Seemed to play to not make a mistake and ended up not making any plays.

                Then looked like someone lit a fire under him. Last couple minutes went on first read, got angles and made plays. Was fooled some by read-option, but at least he was taking away one option. Was aggressive even if wrong.

                Had one nice pass defense.

                If you find anymore 2014 games, please post...

                Well, I trust Farmer and Pettine judgement over yours, sorry.

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                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                Easy fellers...

                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Well, I trust Farmer and Pettine judgement over yours, sorry.

                The difference between you and I is that only one of us has any inkling what my judgment might be since I only posted observations.

                Did you even watch the tape?

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                  Easy fellers...

                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  Well, I trust Farmer and Pettine judgement over yours, sorry.

                  The difference between you and I is that only one of us has any inkling what my judgment might be since I only posted observations.

                  Did you even watch the tape?

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                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                  @tour2ma said:

                  Easy fellers...

                  I didn't mean I edited my original post because I was insulting towards Couch. I edited because I was going to list some of the things I do and when/how I play. Then I realized I'm bothering to give time to an obvious troll attempt. Not worth it.

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                    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                    Like I said before - it was honest question. But then you got your pussy hurt and answered it for me.

                    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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                      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                      Site is a Forum for Fans with their own opinions.. Personally what any of us do for a living. You on the wrong site.. It's his opinion...

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                      • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

                        Like I said before - it was honest question. But then you got your pussy hurt and answered it for me.

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                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                        @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                        Like I said before - it was honest question. But then you got your pussy hurt and answered it for me.

                        Look, bitch - it was not an honest question. It was a lame ass attempt to flame someone. One of those situations where any answer gets a sarcastic and trolling response regardless of validity. Spend less time worrying about what the fuck I do and more time not being such a chode there, tough guy. Gracias.

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                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                          No, it's your smart ass, arrogant attitude, Tiam. I had posted my dumb opinion on the draft, and you

                          went off on the "Retarded" crap.

                          I do think the pouty, whineyass critique ignored the excellent positives of Duke, including

                          his accomplishments. You want to smart off, you get it in response, around here.

                          Personally, I never played football, and my knee kept me out of the draft back in the day. But most of us

                          are not sports pros. We are just avid fans. So whatever you really DO, if you can't handle that,

                          STFU or at least get off your smart ass high horse.

                          Oh, and I officially give the Browns' draft an A-, the minus is because I don't "know" like a scout, but as a fan,

                          I wanted a bigtime, superstar WR. Although, the Browns know what they need to kick ass, and that is controlliing

                          the los, because they ARE the experts.

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                            No, it's your smart ass, arrogant attitude, Tiam. I had posted my dumb opinion on the draft, and you

                            went off on the "Retarded" crap.

                            I do think the pouty, whineyass critique ignored the excellent positives of Duke, including

                            his accomplishments. You want to smart off, you get it in response, around here.

                            Personally, I never played football, and my knee kept me out of the draft back in the day. But most of us

                            are not sports pros. We are just avid fans. So whatever you really DO, if you can't handle that,

                            STFU or at least get off your smart ass high horse.

                            Oh, and I officially give the Browns' draft an A-, the minus is because I don't "know" like a scout, but as a fan,

                            I wanted a bigtime, superstar WR. Although, the Browns know what they need to kick ass, and that is controlliing

                            the los, because they ARE the experts.

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                            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            No, it's your smart ass, arrogant attitude, Tiam. I had posted my dumb opinion on the draft, and you

                            went off on the "Retarded" crap.

                            I do think the pouty, whineyass critique ignored the excellent positives of Duke, including

                            his accomplishments. You want to smart off, you get it in response, around here.

                            Personally, I never played football, and my knee kept me out of the draft back in the day. But most of us

                            are not sports pros. We are just avid fans. So whatever you really DO, if you can't handle that,

                            STFU or at least get off your smart ass high horse.

                            Oh, and I officially give the Browns' draft an A-, the minus is because I don't "know" like a scout, but as a fan,

                            I wanted a bigtime, superstar WR. Although, the Browns know what they need to kick ass, and that is controlliing

                            the los, because they ARE the experts.

                            So you're pissed off because I called you Retarded for wanting a receive in the 1st round? A) I don't remember that. 😎 I apologize but it must have been pretty stupid. C) looks like Farmer agrees with my take personnel assessments and team needs as WR was one of the last things on the front offices minds.

                            I also have zero Idea what you're talking about regarding Duke. This thread hasn't brought him up yet, as my critique is on Pullard. I never played a Mike or Buck spot but played a Will and play a rover. I understand the keys and responsibilities of the position. I also enjoy the Duke pick and his skill set. I made that clear in the tavern.

                            Sounds like you're pissed off because I call out the average Browns fan for what they are. Loyal, dedicated and passionate - yet at the same time, dumb as shit.

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                              Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                              How about people just calm the fuck down. He is a 7th round pick. He will have just about as much chance to make the roster as the UDFA we signed from Texas Tech.

                              Ruining threads since 1897.
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                                How about people just calm the fuck down. He is a 7th round pick. He will have just about as much chance to make the roster as the UDFA we signed from Texas Tech.

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                                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                @harry-buffalo said:

                                How about people just calm the fuck down. He is a 7th round pick. He will have just about as much chance to make the roster as the UDFA we signed from Texas Tech.

                                I'm perfectly calm. That said, I think there's a good chance HP makes the roster.

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                                  jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                  Of course this won't make the dude a good player, but he wrote a pretty engaging open letter on why he should be drafted:

                                  http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/05/browns_lb_hayes_pullard_7th-ro.html

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                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                    Sounds like you're pissed off because I call out the average Browns fan for what they are. Loyal, dedicated and passionate - yet at the same time, dumb as shit.Tattoo Tiam

                                    ****************************************************

                                    A. Not po'd at all. Just happily telling you your attitude sucks.

                                    B. To be honest, I meant to say "Pullard", but I was in a hurry, and had to take off, we couldn't be late.

                                    "Duke" came out in my typing, I guess, because I know I was stunned when they picked him, some folks

                                    didn't like that pick...

                                    C. Browns fans aren't dumb, you are a stupidass. All sorts of guys around here like Flugels, and others, know a ton about football,.... I don't - but it's fun to have my own goofy opinions anyways, and none of us need your sissyass permission.

                                    D. You want to play hardass alpha male around here, go try it, it will be fun to watch the board make you cry.

                                    E. I'm goin to have some coffee, and go cut down a big tree a neighbor wants gone and it's firewood for next winter,

                                    rototil the garden, grease the bearings on our Kawasaki 700 ATV, and sight in my new .22 LR for groundhog hunting.

                                    F. I don't get mad, I just get humorous. I know, it's a flaw.

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                                      Sounds like you're pissed off because I call out the average Browns fan for what they are. Loyal, dedicated and passionate - yet at the same time, dumb as shit.Tattoo Tiam

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                                      A. Not po'd at all. Just happily telling you your attitude sucks.

                                      B. To be honest, I meant to say "Pullard", but I was in a hurry, and had to take off, we couldn't be late.

                                      "Duke" came out in my typing, I guess, because I know I was stunned when they picked him, some folks

                                      didn't like that pick...

                                      C. Browns fans aren't dumb, you are a stupidass. All sorts of guys around here like Flugels, and others, know a ton about football,.... I don't - but it's fun to have my own goofy opinions anyways, and none of us need your sissyass permission.

                                      D. You want to play hardass alpha male around here, go try it, it will be fun to watch the board make you cry.

                                      E. I'm goin to have some coffee, and go cut down a big tree a neighbor wants gone and it's firewood for next winter,

                                      rototil the garden, grease the bearings on our Kawasaki 700 ATV, and sight in my new .22 LR for groundhog hunting.

                                      F. I don't get mad, I just get humorous. I know, it's a flaw.

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                                      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      Sounds like you're pissed off because I call out the average Browns fan for what they are. Loyal, dedicated and passionate - yet at the same time, dumb as shit.Tattoo Tiam

                                      ****************************************************

                                      A. Not po'd at all. Just happily telling you your attitude sucks.

                                      I'm failing to see where it has sucked. I'm not a board troll, am generally positive and offer decent football insight.

                                      B. To be honest, I meant to say "Pullard", but I was in a hurry, and had to take off, we couldn't be late.

                                      "Duke" came out in my typing, I guess, because I know I was stunned when they picked him, some folks

                                      didn't like that pick...

                                      I had thought that, but wasn't entirely sure. My B.

                                      C. Browns fans aren't dumb, you are a stupidass. All sorts of guys around here like Flugels, and others, know a ton about football,.... I don't - but it's fun to have my own goofy opinions anyways, and none of us need your sissyass permission.

                                      Yes, most Browns fans ARE dumb. That doesn't detract from the passion and loyalty. To be fair, most fans are oblivious to the inner workings of the game. Where Cleveland stands above the rest is that our fans can actually name the players and their positions. How many people do you still hear curse Couch's name not realizing he played behind one of the worst streches of oline play in modern football? How many people still say "Brady Quinn didn't get a fair shake". That said, HOW many Manziel jersey's were at the Browns draft party last week? How many are pissed we don't draft every Buckeye possible. Exactly. To defend that last point, I actually attended the University and can openly say I would like to get my hands on our home grown boys, sometimes it just doesn't work out.

                                      edit: By my generalization, I'm not calling Flugs, Tour, Mud, Harry, or anybody else here dumb. I mean, some are, no doubt. But there are many opinions and a good knowledge base here that I understand and respect.

                                      D. You want to play hardass alpha male around here, go try it, it will be fun to watch the board make you cry.

                                      Da Fuq? Is this days of our lives? I've been responding to Couch's trolling ass questions (sadly) then you jump in. Now I defend myself. I'm not responding to every post here damning people and telling them they're inferior. Again, I think you've just been on the wrong side of a disagreement or two with me and took it personally.

                                      E. I'm goin to have some coffee, and go cut down a big tree a neighbor wants gone and it's firewood for next winter,

                                      rototil the garden, grease the bearings on our Kawasaki 700 ATV, and sight in my new .22 LR for groundhog hunting.

                                      700? Prairie or KFX? I was never huge on Kawa bikes, but some people swear by them.

                                      F. I don't get mad, I just get humorous. I know, it's a flaw.

                                      I'd call that a good personality trait.

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                                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                        How many people do you still hear curse Couch's name not realizing he played behind one of the worst streches of oline play in modern football? Tiam

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                                        well, hell, - a LOT of us know that on this board. The kid never had a chance. And I have a white and a brown

                                        Couch jersey, dammit.

                                        Prairie - it's our workhorse. but the Honda 400 is more fun to ride, and a lot quieter. I always use it to ride back to

                                        our woods to hang out there poacher watching during deer season.....

                                        Sure, there are a lot of guys whose mock drafts suck, especially mine. But, it's fun, and all us Browns fans must be brilliant

                                        since we nailed Shelton........ 😎

                                        Oh, btw, I only know stuff that I've watched the Browns games, and my favorite rb was Leroy Kelly

                                        who I got to see in person vs the steelers at the U. of Akron Rubber Bowl, all these years.

                                        BTW, what do you think of Carder vs Pullard?

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                                          How many people do you still hear curse Couch's name not realizing he played behind one of the worst streches of oline play in modern football? Tiam

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                                          well, hell, - a LOT of us know that on this board. The kid never had a chance. And I have a white and a brown

                                          Couch jersey, dammit.

                                          Prairie - it's our workhorse. but the Honda 400 is more fun to ride, and a lot quieter. I always use it to ride back to

                                          our woods to hang out there poacher watching during deer season.....

                                          Sure, there are a lot of guys whose mock drafts suck, especially mine. But, it's fun, and all us Browns fans must be brilliant

                                          since we nailed Shelton........ 😎

                                          Oh, btw, I only know stuff that I've watched the Browns games, and my favorite rb was Leroy Kelly

                                          who I got to see in person vs the steelers at the U. of Akron Rubber Bowl, all these years.

                                          BTW, what do you think of Carder vs Pullard?

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                                          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          How many people do you still hear curse Couch's name not realizing he played behind one of the worst streches of oline play in modern football? Tiam

                                          ***************************

                                          well, hell, - a LOT of us know that on this board. The kid never had a chance. And I have a white and a brown

                                          Couch jersey, dammit.

                                          Prairie - it's our workhorse. but the Honda 400 is more fun to ride, and a lot quieter. I always use it to ride back to

                                          our woods to hang out there poacher watching during deer season.....

                                          Sure, there are a lot of guys whose mock drafts suck, especially mine. But, it's fun, and all us Browns fans must be brilliant

                                          since we nailed Shelton........ 😎

                                          Oh, btw, I only know stuff that I've watched the Browns games, and my favorite rb was Leroy Kelly

                                          who I got to see in person vs the steelers at the U. of Akron Rubber Bowl, all these years.

                                          BTW, what do you think of Carder vs Pullard?

                                          Trust me, I can't tell you how much conversation of terrible football talk I overheard downtown on St Patty's. Like I said, I LOVE Cleveland fans. I'm one of them, but most are just awfully not versed in the sport.

                                          Honda, word? That's my shit. Love Honda bikes. 400ex?

                                          What do I think of Carder vs HP? I think HP has the upside that Carder doesn't. I read the open letter and Jrb mentioned it doesn't make him a good football player. To which, I disagree. Any man who is willing to humble himself for this game, admit that he constantly wants to be better at this craft is automatically a better player for it.

                                          I like HP has some physical abilities and coverage skills Carder simply doesn't have. I like Hayes ability to attack downhill and hit someone when the play is diagnosed. Basically, his floor could be quite a bit higher than Carder's. Whom is more willing to man that 3rd/4th spot and work their ass off on special teams is another question in itself because there were quite a few times Tank was hammering fools on punt coverage.

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