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  • Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe

    I don't understand how one could be disappointed in this draft.

    Not trying to be an asshole (I hardly have to "try"). I just actually don't understand how you can look at what the team did and complain about it.

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    I don't understand how one could be disappointed in this draft.

    Not trying to be an asshole (I hardly have to "try"). I just actually don't understand how you can look at what the team did and complain about it.

    Most don't understand the best ways to insure continuity for success is either by having an elite QB or elite players in the trenches. Since this team doesn't have the former, the smart moves are to not pretend that we do and build up the latter. It's brilliant draft strategy executed very well by Farmer. Since the lack of understanding, many assume if you don't get the flashy picks, you're not doing well. Which couldn't be further from the truth.

    The other thing most people (Browns fans) fail to realize that having a weapon at TE or WR is NOT a QB's best friend. Having a good offensive line is.

  • Rich likes dicks in his holes.

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12

  • My agenda for this Browns draft was fully met. *

    1. Help on both lines/build inside out

    2. A pass rusher who can also tackle RB's

    3. A ST return man (the fact he is also an excellent RB with real hands is just icing on the cake)

    4. Some real value picks in late rounds (Ifo/Pullard)

    5. No reaches, especially the elusive QB reach that so many Browns teams in the past have done at the expense of their overall draft.

    Next year we can go for the "divas"

    *but damn I sure think Lockett is gonna prove out to be a steal for Seattle

  • nickersN nickers

    I agree with Rich.. this draft stank!..

    @nickers said:

    I agree with Rich.. this draft stank!..

    Haha..the Grinch

    "Mr. Farmer, the words that best describe your draft are as follows, and I quote:

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  • Anyone who thinks the browns draft stunk is in the minority...I mean a serious minority.

  • rich4eagleR rich4eagle

    Since Belichick and the gone years we the Browns keep doing dumb. Cannot figure out why the same losing strategy just keeps on going and going and going.

    This team and it's fans still think the loser now mantra of defense wins championships and it starts in the trenches wins

    WELL IT HAS BEEN A LOSING STRATEGY NOW FOR !6 YEARS AND WE ARE AT IT AGAIN

    Sad draft...........we have not a single player who is a playmaker that scores points so another year of getting our ass kicked is another ho hum more dumbness

    Cannot be more disappointed is NOT PICKING A SINGLE GAME STRETCHER PLAYMAKER

    @rich4eagle said:

    Since Belichick and the gone years we the Browns keep doing dumb. Cannot figure out why the same losing strategy just keeps on going and going and going.

    This team and it's fans still think the loser now mantra of defense wins championships and it starts in the trenches wins

    WELL IT HAS BEEN A LOSING STRATEGY NOW FOR !6 YEARS AND WE ARE AT IT AGAIN

    Sad draft...........we have not a single player who is a playmaker that scores points so another year of getting our ass kicked is another ho hum more dumbness

    Cannot be more disappointed is NOT PICKING A SINGLE GAME STRETCHER PLAYMAKER

    Duke Johnson could be a bigger version of Greg Pruitt/Eric Metcalf. Isn't that playmaker sufficient for you?

    Besides Brady Quinn was supposed to be Tom Brady Jr., then Brandon Weeden was supposed to be Eli Manning Jr., and Manziel was supposed to be Russell Wilson Jr. And Trent Richardson was supposed to be Adrian Peterson.

    So, you see Rich....the Browns did it your way.....and FUCKED it up royal. So now lets see what they can do. One of their best playmakers in history was a 13th round choice.....maybe that will happen again.

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  • Same ol stuff huh. Kinda like last year when we improved from a four win team to something that resembled a football team

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  • ComeonmanC Comeonman

    Same ol stuff huh. Kinda like last year when we improved from a four win team to something that resembled a football team

    @comeonman said:

    Same ol stuff huh. Kinda like last year when we improved from a four win team to something that resembled a football team

    But we didn't have a shiny new receiver or quarterback to do it...therefore the Browns are stupid. Everybody knows this.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • hoortaH hoorta

    @miktoxic said:

    rich is a steeler fan who has convinced some that he really is a browns fan, comes in once or twice a year to stir the shit pot then runs to the hills (of PA that is...)

    No Mik- I've met Rich on several occasions- he really is a Browns fan, though him and Ghoolie have a rather warped view of the value of offensive and defensive linemen.

    Rich doesn't like to admit a few years back the #1 WR in the NFL won us all of four games.

    @hoorta said:

    No Mik- I've met Rich on several occasions- he really is a Browns fan, though him and Ghoolie have a rather warped view of the value of offensive and defensive linemen.

    Rich doesn't like to admit a few years back the #1 WR in the NFL won us all of four games.

    The other thing that perhaps Rich doesn't realize.....since he is a halftime Steeler fan.....that the Browns are doing it exactly the way the Steelers did it in the early 2000s. That team built up its defense and offensive line to a point of great strengths. It bolstered its running game. And their best WR was a 4th round converted QB (Hines Ward). During their run from 2005-2008 they didn't have any speed burners at WR.

    And when the team was ready.....plop....they dropped a cherry on top....Roethlisberger.

    And perhaps that is the way the Browns will go next year.

    Now, the Browns are operating in the exact same manner: sturdy OL, sturdy defense, sturdy running game. Solid of not specta

  • It's going to be 1985 all over again. 13-10, 20-17, maybe even some 9-6 games are coming our way. As long as the Browns win, who cares....and 1985 was the start of our last resemblance of a good run of seasons.

    We won't know how these picks are until down the road, but I'm excited about this season.

    Karlis Missed

  • How can you be a fan not not see what the Browns are doing. I wanted a WR in the first. But I can't hate on this draft. There's a plan. That's more already than in the past.

  • WR are shiny hood ornaments.

    YOU don't get it, r4: Your playtakers are on the field for 50 plays but only receive the ball on 5 of them at best.. that's 10%. OL and DL are required on 100% of the plays.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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  • Everyone at the Browns Backers party I was at knew who Shelton was but were disappointed we took him. Lots of dumb football fans running around out there.

    Tour2maT The GipperT hoortaH 3 Replies

  • Successful football starts with successful oline and dline play.

    Even Jimmy Brown always gave credit to his offensive line.

    Archie Manning had a tough career without the blocking in front of him -

    and Peyton and Eli had no desire to suffer the same fate.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • W wargograw

    Everyone at the Browns Backers party I was at knew who Shelton was but were disappointed we took him. Lots of dumb football fans running around out there.

    @wargograw said:

    Everyone at the Browns Backers party I was at knew who Shelton was but were disappointed we took him. Lots of dumb football fans running around out there.

    Dumb's a little harsh. I'd ascribe it to the difference between "fans" and lovers... or "nuts".

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • W wargograw

    Everyone at the Browns Backers party I was at knew who Shelton was but were disappointed we took him. Lots of dumb football fans running around out there.

    @wargograw said:

    Everyone at the Browns Backers party I was at knew who Shelton was but were disappointed we took him. Lots of dumb football fans running around out there.

    What were they expecting....the WR?

    W 1 Reply
  • C calfoxwc

    Successful football starts with successful oline and dline play.

    Even Jimmy Brown always gave credit to his offensive line.

    Archie Manning had a tough career without the blocking in front of him -

    and Peyton and Eli had no desire to suffer the same fate.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Successful football starts with successful oline and dline play.

    Even Jimmy Brown always gave credit to his offensive line.

    Archie Manning had a tough career without the blocking in front of him -

    and Peyton and Eli had no desire to suffer the same fate.

    Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist but football is only two things - blocking and tackling.

    Vince Lombardi

    Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/v/vincelomba115468.html#qrRpKGU0GjbIxeqE.99

  • Lines win football - greatest cliche ever written about the game, but still the truest ever written.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT nickersN 2 Replies
  • T TexasAg1969

    Lines win football - greatest cliche ever written about the game, but still the truest ever written.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Lines win football - greatest cliche ever written about the game, but still the truest ever written.

    The misconception with that being that high draft picks = strong lines.

    You can have five first round picks on your offensive line and have it still suck hind teat. Individual talent means little when it comes to offensive line play, it's knowing what your other four guys are doing.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @texasag1969 said:

    Lines win football - greatest cliche ever written about the game, but still the truest ever written.

    The misconception with that being that high draft picks = strong lines.

    You can have five first round picks on your offensive line and have it still suck hind teat. Individual talent means little when it comes to offensive line play, it's knowing what your other four guys are doing.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The misconception with that being that high draft picks = strong lines.

    You can have five first round picks on your offensive line and have it still suck hind teat. Individual talent means little when it comes to offensive line play, it's knowing what your other four guys are doing.

    Sure, coaching and cohesiveness and stability counts. But having more talented players helps.

    Honestly, having talented players has not actually been the Browns biggest problem. I have broken down the depth charts of the AFCN and the Browns have as many or more talented players than the other division teams. (with the exception of QB....OK).

    There is the old adage, "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts". In the Browns case it really has been the opposite.....the whole has been lesser than the sum of its parts. They have a great O Line, the best DBs in the division, reasonably solid DL and LBs. But they have not been able to win because something has been lacking. Cohesion, stability. Hopefully that changes now.

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