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  • Fooleeze F
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    F Fooleeze wrote on last edited by
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    That's excellent news. I liked some of the stuff I saw out of Adams last year. And the depth is much needed (Especially of Holly leaves).

    2009 prediction: 8-8, with a much more respectible looking team, and hopefully 3-3 in the division with at least 1 win over each team.
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    • F Fooleeze

      That's excellent news. I liked some of the stuff I saw out of Adams last year. And the depth is much needed (Especially of Holly leaves).

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      ? Dacaddyman wrote on last edited by
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      @fooleeze said:

      That's excellent news. I liked some of the stuff I saw out of Adams last year. And the depth is much needed (Especially of Holly leaves).

      I like Adams too.

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        T Tobalaz wrote on last edited by
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        Adams did a solid job when he was on the field.

        Nothing special, but solid depth when needed.

        3 seasons until our new head coach, let's hope they get it right this time.
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          B blazekad wrote on last edited by
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          Per Sporting News Browns just signed C.J. Mosley.

          Browns Sign Mosley

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            Per Sporting News Browns just signed C.J. Mosley.

            Browns Sign Mosley

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            @blazekad said:

            Per Sporting News Browns just signed C.J. Mosley.

            I never heard of her, but her name sounds like a pornstar's.

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            • rich4eagle rich4eagleR One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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              rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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              We made a film together.............after she screamed for more................she said I was too old for her and that offense sucked ................losing was more fun

              Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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                Dammit, Richard. You're such a buzzkill that you even ruin marginally-funny jokes by chiming in.

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                  DL - Mosley, C.J. - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/6: LINK

                  Anyone got the low down on this guy? I can't recall ever hearing about him.

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                    S Skinny wrote on last edited by
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                    Browns Sign Poteat. The team website has it up its for sure.

                    Like Granny always said- "If you can't be good...Be good at It."
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                      Browns Sign Poteat. The team website has it up its for sure.

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                      HowieDawgH HowieDawg wrote on last edited by
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                      @skinny said:

                      Browns Sign Poteat. The team website has it up its for sure.

                      Here is the link: Browns sign Poteat from Jets

                      9 year Vet. 4 INTS in total career, all coming in last two seasons, Hmmm, BMac has beaten that record in two seasons. I can't really comment on this guy as I have not seen him play and perhaps he has a 1,000 PBUs or something. Would be interested in views from those who know more about this guy.

                      Tailgate loving, Steelers hating, Trans-Atlantic Browns fan. Annually disappointed since '88. Annually optimistic since '88. GO BROWNS!
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                        Zombo said:

                        He sucks.

                        Zombo

                        If he starts I'm done.

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                          HowieDawgH HowieDawg wrote on last edited by
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                          Zombo said:

                          He sucks.

                          Zombo

                          So my hunch was correct, why did we make this signing? I'm beginning to think the silent Berea treatment is because there is no one home.

                          Tailgate loving, Steelers hating, Trans-Atlantic Browns fan. Annually disappointed since '88. Annually optimistic since '88. GO BROWNS!
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                            F Fooleeze wrote on last edited by
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                            I don't see a problem adding a veteran for depth. He won't start, but adding veteran depth is a fine plan.

                            2009 prediction: 8-8, with a much more respectible looking team, and hopefully 3-3 in the division with at least 1 win over each team.
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                              Zombo said:

                              He sucks.

                              Zombo

                              So my hunch was correct, why did we make this signing? I'm beginning to think the silent Berea treatment is because there is no one home.

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                              chocoC choco wrote on last edited by choco
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                              @howiedawg said:

                              So my hunch was correct, why did we make this signing? I'm beginning to think the silent Berea treatment is because there is no one home.

                              you're just withdrawling because their isn't anyone leaking shit to the press every time ya turm around.

                              just because one isn't privy to the info does not mean nothings going on. its how it should be....quiet.

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                                UPDATES:

                                8/11 - Changed number to reflect Jersey Numbers, updated for all recent changes.

                                8/12 - Added signing of Edward Williams, and release of Syndric Steptoe

                                8/20 - Added signing of Paul Raymond, Chris Jennings, and release of Bo Ruud and Phillip Hunt - Roster now at 81 + 1 on IR (Marlon Davis)

                                8/21 - Added signing of Pat Murray & Robert McDune, release of Edward Williams & Branndon Braxton - Roster still at 81 + 1 on IR (Marlon Davis)

                                8/26 - Added transactions from 8/24 - 8/25. - Roster still at 81 + 1 on IR (Marlon Davis)

                                9/1 - Added the transactions from the past few days. Roster is at 77 +2 on IR (Marlon Davis and Ryan Tucker)

                                9/8 - Updated all cuts / practice squad / waiver acquisitions / etc. - down to the 53 man roster.

                                3: QB - Anderson, Derek

                                10: QB - Quinn, Brady

                                5: QB - Ratliff, Brett - Received from NYJ in Draft-Day trade for #5 pick: LINK

                                28: RB - Davis, James - 2009 6th Rnd Draft Pick (#195): LINK

                                35: RB - Harrison, Jerome

                                31: RB - Lewis, Jamal

                                38: RB - Peerman, Cedric - Waiver Wire acquisition, 9/6: LINK

                                47: FB - Vickers, Lawrence

                                16: WR - Cribbs, Joshua

                                17: WR - Edwards, Braylon

                                88: WR - Furrey, Mike - FA Signing from Detroit, 5/5: LINK

                                11: WR - Massaquoi, Mohamed - 2009 2st Rnd Draft Pick (#50): LINK

                                80: WR - Robiskie, Brian - 2009 2st Rnd Draft Pick (#36): LINK

                                82: TE - Heiden, Steve

                                84: TE - Royal, Robert - FA Signing from Buffalo, 3/4: LINK

                                86: TE - Rucker, Martin

                                66: OL - Fraley, Hank

                                70: OL - Hadnot, Rex

                                55: OL - Mack, Alex - 2009 1st Rnd Draft Pick (#21): LINK

                                78: OL - St. Clair, John - FA Signing from Chicago, 3/18: LINK

                                65: OL - Steinbach, Eric

                                73: OL - Thomas, Joe

                                74: OL - Trautwein, Phil - Waiver Wire acquisition, 9/6: LINK

                                77: OL - Womack, Floyd - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/13: LINK

                                90: DL - Coleman, Kenyon - Received from NYJ in Draft-Day trade for #5 pick: LINK

                                69: DL - Mosley, C.J. - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/6: LINK

                                92: DL - Rogers, Shaun

                                71: DL - Rubin, Ahtyba

                                98: DL - Smith, Robaire

                                99: DL - Williams, Corey

                                50: LB - Barton, Eric - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/13: LINK

                                96: LB - Bowens, David - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/10: LINK

                                44: LB - Costanzo, Blake - Waiver Wire acquisition from Buffalo, 6/16: LINK

                                51: LB - Hall, Alex

                                52: LB - Jackson, D'Qwell

                                56: LB - Maiava, Kaluka - 2009 4th Rnd Draft Pick (#104): LINK

                                57: LB - Veikune, David - 2009 2st Rnd Draft Pick (#52): LINK

                                94: LB - Williams, Leon

                                95: LB - Wimbley, Kamerion

                                20: DB - Adams, Mike - Re-Signed, 3/6: LINK

                                26: DB - Elam, Abram - Received from NYJ in Draft-Day trade for #5 pick: LINK

                                29: DB - Floyd, Marquis - Waiver Wire acquisition, 9/6: LINK

                                25: DB - Francies, Coye - 2009 6th Rnd Draft Pick (#191): LINK

                                30: DB - Lawson, Gerard

                                22: DB - McDonald, Brandon

                                21: DB - Pool, Brodney

                                23: DB - Poteat, Hank - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/10: LINK

                                33: DB - Smith, DeAngelo - Waiver Wire acquisition, 9/6: LINK

                                27: DB - Sorensen, Nick

                                24: DB - Wright, Eric

                                64: LS - Pontbriand, Ryan

                                15: P - Zastudil, Dave

                                4: K - Dawson, Phil

                                PRACTICE SQUAD (also includes FAs that have not been signed anywhere)

                                36: DB - Anderson, Brandon - Cut, Signed to Practice Squad: LINK

                                59: LB - Brown, Titus - Cut, Signed to Practice Squad: LINK

                                34: RB - Jennings, Chris - Cut, Signed to Practice Squad: LINK

                                9: WR - Leggett, Lance - Cut, Signed to Practice Squad: LINK

                                75: OL - Murray, Pat - Cut, Signed to Practice Squad: LINK

                                91: DL - Schaefering, Brian - Cut, Signed to Practice Squad: LINK

                                OTHERS (also includes FAs that have not been signed anywhere)

                                18: WR - Stallworth, Donte - Suspended fro 2009 Season

                                72: OL - Tucker, Ryan - Waived / Placed on IR 8/31: LINK

                                DEPARTURES (also includes FAs that have not been signed anywhere)

                                QB - Bartel, Richard - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                QB - Dorsey, Ken - Released 2/9: LINK

                                QB - Gradkowski, Bruce - Released, Signed by Oakland

                                RB - Herron, Noah - Terminated Contract (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                RB - Patrick, Allen - Released, Signed by NYG

                                RB - Thomas, Marcus - Released, Signed by Denver

                                RB - Wright, Jason - Signed with Arizona, 3/16: LINK

                                FB - Ali, Charles - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                WR - Casteel, Brent - Released, 5/4: LINK

                                WR - Ellis, Devale - Waived, 7/26: LINK

                                WR - Hubbard, Paul - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                WR - Jurevicius, Joe - Released 3/11: LINK

                                WR - Norwood, Jordan - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                WR - Patten, David - Terminated Contract (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                WR - Raymond, Paul - Waived 8/25: LINK

                                WR - Steptoe, Syndric - Released / Injured, 8/11: LINK

                                WR - Williams, Edward - Released 8/20: LINK

                                TE - Cieslak, Brad - Released 3/12: LINK

                                TE - Dinkins, Darnell - Signed with New Orleans, 3/18: LINK

                                TE - Jackson, Nate - FA Signing 8/24, Cut 8/31

                                TE - Madsen, John - Waived 8/24: LINK

                                TE - Massey, Mike - Released, 5/4: LINK

                                TE - Walker, Aaron - Terminated Contract (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                TE - Winslow, Kellen - Traded to Tampa, 2/27: LINK

                                OL - Braxton, Branndon - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                OL - Davis, Marlon - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                OL - Foster, George - Waived 8/24: LINK

                                OL - Friedman, Lennie - Free Agent (UFA)

                                OL - Fry, Dustin - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                OL - Hilliard, Corey - Waived, 9/6: LINK

                                OL - McKinney, Seth - Free Agent (UFA), Signed with Buffalo, 4/10: LINK

                                OL - Quarterman, Kurt - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                OL - Shaffer, Kevin - Released 3/12: LINK - Signed with Chicago 3/25: LINK

                                OL - Sowells, Isaac - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                OL - Weary, Fred - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                OL - Young, Eric - Released 2/9, signed by St. Louis

                                OL - Young, Scott - Signed with Denver, 3/2: LINK

                                DL - Hoppel, Adam - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                DL - Leonard, Louis - Traded to Carolina Panthers for Undisclosed Draft Pick: LINK

                                DL - Pittman, Chase - Free Agent (UFA)

                                DL - Purcell, Melila - Waived/Injured 8/24: LINK

                                DL - Smith, Shaun - Released 8/8, signed by Detroit

                                DL - Thomas, Santonio - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                LB - Bell, Beau - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                LB - Benard, Marcus - Waived, 9/6: LINK

                                LB - Davis, Andra - Signed with Denver, 3/2: LINK

                                LB - Foster, Jonathan - UDFA from Central State, , Released, 7/15: LINK

                                LB - Griffin, Kris - Free Agent (UFA)

                                LB - Holloway, David - Waived

                                LB - Hunt, Phillip - Waived 8/18: LINK

                                LB - McCune, Robert - FA Signing 8/20, Cut 8/31

                                LB - McGinest, Willie - Free Agent (UFA)

                                LB - Orr, Shantee - Free Agent (UFA)

                                LB - Peek, Antwaan - Released 2/9: LINK

                                LB - Ruud, Bo - Released 8/17: LINK

                                DB - Abdullah, Hamza - Terminated Contract (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                DB - Battle, Tra - Waived (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                DB - Boudreaux, Corey - Released, 5/4: LINK

                                DB - Carey, Don - 2009 6th Rnd Draft Pick (#177), Released/Injured, 8/6, signed by Jacksonville

                                DB - Cargile, Steve - Signed with Giants: LINK

                                DB - Cousin, Terry - Released 2/9: LINK

                                DB - Daniels, Travis - Signed with Kansas City, 3/10: LINK

                                DB - Holly, Daven - Free Agent (UFA)

                                DB - Hood, Roderick - FA Signing from Arizona, 5/26, Cut 8/31: LINK

                                DB - Ivy, Corey - Terminated Contract (to get to 53-Man Roster), 9/6: LINK

                                DB - Jones, Sean - Signed with Eagles, 3/6: LINK

                                DB - Lockett, Bret - Waived, 9/6: LINK

                                DB - Ness, Nathrain - UDFA from Arizona, Released, 7/15, signed by NYJ

                                DB - Smith, Antonio - Released, 5/4, signed by SD

                                DB - Venson, Jason - UDFA from Centra Florida, Released 6/5: LINK

                                DB - Williams, Bryan - Waived 6/15/09: LINK UDFA from Akron

                                P - Dragosavich, Mike - Released 2/9: LINK

                                K - Douglass, Parker - FA Signing, 5/15, Released, Signed by NYJ

                                K - Reda, Jason - Released 2/9: LINK

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                                W WPB Dawg Fan wrote on last edited by WPB Dawg Fan
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                                @fooleeze said:

                                QB - Dorsey, Ken - Released 2/9: LINK

                                QB - Gradkowski, Bruce - Released 2/9: LINK

                                WR - Jurevicius, Joe - Released 3/11: LINK

                                TE - Royal, Robert - FA Signing from Buffalo, 3/4: LINK

                                TE - Winslow, Kellen - Traded to Tampa, 2/27: LINK

                                OL - Young, Eric - Released 2/9: LINK

                                DL - Mosley, C.J. - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/6: LINK

                                LB - Bowens, David - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/10: LINK

                                LB - Davis, Andra - Signed with Denver, 3/2: LINK

                                LB - Peek, Antwaan - Released 2/9: LINK

                                DB - Adams, Mike - Re-Signed, 3/6: LINK

                                DB - Cargile, Steve - Signed with Giants: LINK

                                DB - Cousin, Terry - Released 2/9: LINK

                                DB - Daniels, Travis - Signed with Kansas City, 3/10: LINK

                                DB - Elam, Abram - RFA from NY Jets signed to an Offer Sheet (7 days to match), 3/11: LINK

                                DB - Jones, Sean - Signed with Eagles, 3/6: LINK

                                DB - Poteat, Hank - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/10: LINK

                                P - Dragosavich, Mike - Released 2/9: LINK

                                K - Reda, Jason - Released 2/9: LINK

                                Looking over these moves...you may question one or two..but when looked as a whole it makes good sense.

                                My personal line by line analysis would be something like this:

                                Dorsey and Gradkowski - Neither showed the ability to move the team in their stints last year. While we know that the offense was struggling last year...their TOTAL inability to move the club guaranteed the both would be gone.

                                Joe Jurevicious - I liked the guy...but face it...he was slow 2 years ago...is coming off of an injury...and this team needs to evaluate the young guys at the WR position (something we failed to do last year). So JJ was going to be doing nothing but taking up reps for the young guys.

                                Winslow/Royal - We saw the team move well w/o Winslow last year...and we have heard rumors of this being a run first/WCO hybrid. Winslow didn't fit...he wasn't happy here...and he garnered good picks in return. Royal has always been solid...and may be a perfect fit here if Rucker or Heiden can't fill in. Good depth at the least.

                                Eric Young - We got him off an injury for nothing...so ending the experiment was no big surprise

                                Mosley/Bowens/Poteat/Elam - this is vintage Parcells/BB stuff. Go out and get a bunch of guys you know to provide depth and inspiration at positions of need. At the very least it gives the team depth and drafting freedom/options. At best we may get 1 or 2 starters out of the bunch.

                                Davis/Peek - LB was our worst position...and we have been complaining about these two for the past 2 years. Davis just didn't get it done and Peek rarely saw the field. These were OBVIOUS moves.

                                Mike Adams - He is a classic BB guy...somebody who is inexpensive and versatile enough to fill in multiple positions. I was worried when he visited NE.

                                Terry Cousins - what is there to say...he got burned more than a blind kid trying to read braille on the stove.

                                Cargile/Daniels - Neither saw the field much....and when they did were nothing but Cousins look-a-likes.

                                Sean Jones - We all discussed this. He was going to ask too much. The deal he signed surprised me by being a 1 yr deal...but I think HE may have pushed for it after not finding the numbers he thought would be out there. He may believe he can make tons in 2010 with a good season this year. It did leave a hole, but rumors of Cribbs moving to S may make this a more logical move...and Adams didn't exactly shrink from the position last year.

                                Kevin Shaffer - He was cut before a $1.45M bonus...and is overpaid. He may be resigned at a more cap friendly salary...but if not, keep in mind he is responsible for 3 QB's getting hurt over the past few years.

                                Dragosavich/Reda - Kickers. So what. That was probably the one area we DIDN'T suck last year.

                                Like I said. If you look at these moves as a hole...we are doing well.

                                We have gained a 2nd round draft pick...picked up needed depth at DL/LB/DB/TE with core type players who know Mangini...cleared cap space...and kept the one FA that we felt showed real promise.

                                We have also made this team younger (sorry JJ). And as for the Shaffer thing...Tucker can take it for one more year...then we go out and get a RT road grader so we can run the damn ball.

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                                  @fooleeze said:

                                  QB - Dorsey, Ken - Released 2/9: LINK

                                  QB - Gradkowski, Bruce - Released 2/9: LINK

                                  WR - Jurevicius, Joe - Released 3/11: LINK

                                  TE - Royal, Robert - FA Signing from Buffalo, 3/4: LINK

                                  TE - Winslow, Kellen - Traded to Tampa, 2/27: LINK

                                  OL - Young, Eric - Released 2/9: LINK

                                  DL - Mosley, C.J. - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/6: LINK

                                  LB - Bowens, David - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/10: LINK

                                  LB - Davis, Andra - Signed with Denver, 3/2: LINK

                                  LB - Peek, Antwaan - Released 2/9: LINK

                                  DB - Adams, Mike - Re-Signed, 3/6: LINK

                                  DB - Cargile, Steve - Signed with Giants: LINK

                                  DB - Cousin, Terry - Released 2/9: LINK

                                  DB - Daniels, Travis - Signed with Kansas City, 3/10: LINK

                                  DB - Elam, Abram - RFA from NY Jets signed to an Offer Sheet (7 days to match), 3/11: LINK

                                  DB - Jones, Sean - Signed with Eagles, 3/6: LINK

                                  DB - Poteat, Hank - FA Signing from NY Jets, 3/10: LINK

                                  P - Dragosavich, Mike - Released 2/9: LINK

                                  K - Reda, Jason - Released 2/9: LINK

                                  Looking over these moves...you may question one or two..but when looked as a whole it makes good sense.

                                  My personal line by line analysis would be something like this:

                                  Dorsey and Gradkowski - Neither showed the ability to move the team in their stints last year. While we know that the offense was struggling last year...their TOTAL inability to move the club guaranteed the both would be gone.

                                  Joe Jurevicious - I liked the guy...but face it...he was slow 2 years ago...is coming off of an injury...and this team needs to evaluate the young guys at the WR position (something we failed to do last year). So JJ was going to be doing nothing but taking up reps for the young guys.

                                  Winslow/Royal - We saw the team move well w/o Winslow last year...and we have heard rumors of this being a run first/WCO hybrid. Winslow didn't fit...he wasn't happy here...and he garnered good picks in return. Royal has always been solid...and may be a perfect fit here if Rucker or Heiden can't fill in. Good depth at the least.

                                  Eric Young - We got him off an injury for nothing...so ending the experiment was no big surprise

                                  Mosley/Bowens/Poteat/Elam - this is vintage Parcells/BB stuff. Go out and get a bunch of guys you know to provide depth and inspiration at positions of need. At the very least it gives the team depth and drafting freedom/options. At best we may get 1 or 2 starters out of the bunch.

                                  Davis/Peek - LB was our worst position...and we have been complaining about these two for the past 2 years. Davis just didn't get it done and Peek rarely saw the field. These were OBVIOUS moves.

                                  Mike Adams - He is a classic BB guy...somebody who is inexpensive and versatile enough to fill in multiple positions. I was worried when he visited NE.

                                  Terry Cousins - what is there to say...he got burned more than a blind kid trying to read braille on the stove.

                                  Cargile/Daniels - Neither saw the field much....and when they did were nothing but Cousins look-a-likes.

                                  Sean Jones - We all discussed this. He was going to ask too much. The deal he signed surprised me by being a 1 yr deal...but I think HE may have pushed for it after not finding the numbers he thought would be out there. He may believe he can make tons in 2010 with a good season this year. It did leave a hole, but rumors of Cribbs moving to S may make this a more logical move...and Adams didn't exactly shrink from the position last year.

                                  Kevin Shaffer - He was cut before a $1.45M bonus...and is overpaid. He may be resigned at a more cap friendly salary...but if not, keep in mind he is responsible for 3 QB's getting hurt over the past few years.

                                  Dragosavich/Reda - Kickers. So what. That was probably the one area we DIDN'T suck last year.

                                  Like I said. If you look at these moves as a hole...we are doing well.

                                  We have gained a 2nd round draft pick...picked up needed depth at DL/LB/DB/TE with core type players who know Mangini...cleared cap space...and kept the one FA that we felt showed real promise.

                                  We have also made this team younger (sorry JJ). And as for the Shaffer thing...Tucker can take it for one more year...then we go out and get a RT road grader so we can run the damn ball.

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                                  F Fooleeze wrote on last edited by
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                                  @wpb-dawg-fan said:

                                  Looking over these moves...you may question one or two..but when looked as a whole it makes good sense.

                                  I completely agree. Nothing too flashy yet, but it seems like we're clearing dead & underproducing money, and bringing in some good depth and good youth & growth potential. We certainly still need a few more players signed to make this complete. And I hope there are a few more moves to get a few draft picks. . . otherwise all of this cap-clearing work only serves to save Lerner some cash (which won't be popular with the fans).

                                  2009 prediction: 8-8, with a much more respectible looking team, and hopefully 3-3 in the division with at least 1 win over each team.
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                                      @howiedawg said:

                                      So my hunch was correct, why did we make this signing? I'm beginning to think the silent Berea treatment is because there is no one home.

                                      you're just withdrawling because their isn't anyone leaking shit to the press every time ya turm around.

                                      just because one isn't privy to the info does not mean nothings going on. its how it should be....quiet.

                                      HowieDawg HowieDawgH
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                                      HowieDawgH HowieDawg wrote on last edited by
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                                      @choco said:

                                      you're just withdrawling because their isn't anyone leaking shit to the press every time ya turm around.

                                      just because one isn't privy to the info does not mean nothings going on. its how it should be....quiet.

                                      I hope you're right. I'm keeping my mouth shut until the end of April now I think! 🙂

                                      As long as we don't turn into the Cleveland Jets.

                                      Tailgate loving, Steelers hating, Trans-Atlantic Browns fan. Annually disappointed since '88. Annually optimistic since '88. GO BROWNS!
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                                        @fooleeze said:

                                        So I did something similar a year or so ago, and wanted to try it again. Below I've listed the entire roster, and I've tried to add information on cuts, trades, FA Signings (Yes, all of them. . . ) so we can have a comprehensive resource on how the roster has changed. I think it's useful, if nobody else does, then I'll remove it, or put it within the free-agency thread.

                                        So, give your input and help on anything I've missed. Include links so I can add them. Here goes:

                                        UPDATES: Using ESPN, NFL.com, and kffl.com, I've updated some Free Agents. Louis Leonard seems unconfirmed. Also, I can't find any information on Devale Ellis. He's not on the 'roster' page from clevelandbrowns.com, and he's not listed as a Brown on NFL.com.

                                        QB - Anderson, Derek

                                        QB - Bartel, Richard

                                        QB - Dorsey, Ken - Released 2/9: LINK

                                        QB - Gradkowski, Bruce - Released 2/9: LINK

                                        QB - Quinn, Brady

                                        RB - Harrison, Jerome

                                        RB - Lewis, Jamal

                                        RB - Patrick, Allen

                                        RB - Wright, Jason - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        FB - Ali, Charles

                                        FB - Vickers, Lawrence

                                        WR - Cribbs, Joshua

                                        WR - Edwards, Braylon

                                        WR - Hubbard, Paul

                                        WR - Jurevicius, Joe

                                        WR - Leggett, Lance

                                        WR - Stallworth, Donte

                                        WR - Steptoe, Syndric

                                        TE - Cieslak, Brad

                                        TE - Dinkins, Darnell - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        TE - Heiden, Steve

                                        TE - Madsen, John - Free Agent (RFA)

                                        TE - Royal, Robert - FA Signing from Buffalo, 3/4: LINK

                                        TE - Rucker, Martin

                                        TE - Winslow, Kellen - Traded to Tampa, 2/27: LINK

                                        OL - Fraley, Hank

                                        OL - Friedman, Lennie

                                        OL - Fry, Dustin

                                        OL - Hadnot, Rex

                                        OL - McKinney, Seth - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        OL - Quarterman, Kurt

                                        OL - Shaffer, Kevin

                                        OL - Sowells, Isaac

                                        OL - Steinbach, Eric

                                        OL - Thomas, Joe

                                        OL - Tucker, Ryan

                                        OL - Young, Scott - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        OL - Young, Eric - Released 2/9: LINK

                                        DL - Leonard, Louis - Free Agent???

                                        DL - Pittman, Chase - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        DL - Purcell, Melila

                                        DL - Rogers, Shaun

                                        DL - Rubin, Ahtyba

                                        DL - Smith, Robaire

                                        DL - Smith, Shaun

                                        DL - Thomas, Santonio

                                        DL - Williams, Corey

                                        LB - Bell, Beau

                                        LB - Brown, Titus

                                        LB - Davis, Andra - Signed with Denver, 3/2: LINK

                                        LB - Griffin, Kris - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        LB - Hall, Alex

                                        LB - Holloway, David

                                        LB - Jackson, D'Qwell

                                        LB - McGinest, Willie - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        LB - Orr, Shantee - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        LB - Peek, Antwaan - Released 2/9: LINK

                                        LB - Williams, Leon

                                        LB - Wimbley, Kamerion

                                        DB - Abdullah, Hamza

                                        DB - Adams, Mike - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        DB - Cargile, Steve - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        DB - Cousin, Terry - Released 2/9: LINK

                                        DB - Daniels, Travis - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        DB - Holly, Daven - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        DB - Jones, Sean - Free Agent (UFA)

                                        DB - Lawson, Gerard

                                        DB - McDonald, Brandon

                                        DB - Pool, Brodney

                                        DB - Sorensen, Nick

                                        DB - Wright, Eric

                                        LS - Pontbriand, Ryan

                                        P - Zastudil, Dave

                                        P - Dragosavich, Mike - Released 2/9: LINK

                                        K - Dawson, Phil

                                        K - Reda, Jason - Released 2/9: LINK

                                        Steve Cargile signed with the Giants..

                                        http://www.giants.com/team/player465.html

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                                        @titleist585 said:

                                        Steve Cargile signed with the Giants..

                                        http://www.giants.com/team/player465.html

                                        Am i the only one who is starting to wonder what butch davis, i mean mangini is doing, he has signed all of the jets FAs it seems, and the last time i checked they didn't do so well

                                        last year.

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                                          They were doing just fine until Favor decided to pull his best DA impersonation down the stretch.

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