Defensive Line - odd men out
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Id debate the whole "who costs more", as Des Bryant is the 5th highest paid Brown and makes almost triple what any other linemen make.....if anybodies overpaid, it's Desmond Bryant....
Id debate the whole "who costs more", as Des Bryant is the 5th highest paid Brown and makes almost triple what any other linemen make.....if anybodies overpaid, it's Desmond Bryant....
This. However Desmond brings a pass rushing ability to this front that only Cooper may be able to match. In this day and age when getting to the QB is at a premium, interior big men that can cause havoc in the passing lanes is becoming more and more vital. Shortest distance between two points.
As for Hughes, he still won't command as much money as Phil and to date (when factoring cost,draft position, production with injury) has outplayed Taylor.
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Id debate the whole "who costs more", as Des Bryant is the 5th highest paid Brown and makes almost triple what any other linemen make.....if anybodies overpaid, it's Desmond Bryant....
This. However Desmond brings a pass rushing ability to this front that only Cooper may be able to match. In this day and age when getting to the QB is at a premium, interior big men that can cause havoc in the passing lanes is becoming more and more vital. Shortest distance between two points.
As for Hughes, he still won't command as much money as Phil and to date (when factoring cost,draft position, production with injury) has outplayed Taylor.
This. However Desmond brings a pass rushing ability to this front that only Cooper may be able to match. In this day and age when getting to the QB is at a premium, interior big men that can cause havoc in the passing lanes is becoming more and more vital. Shortest distance between two points.
As for Hughes, he still won't command as much money as Phil and to date (when factoring cost,draft position, production with injury) has outplayed Taylor.
Hughes has been our top rated DL for 2 straight years and has also been our #1 ranked DL against the run. Aside from the injury this season, he's the most productive......just dont understand wanting to get rid of him at all....
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This. However Desmond brings a pass rushing ability to this front that only Cooper may be able to match. In this day and age when getting to the QB is at a premium, interior big men that can cause havoc in the passing lanes is becoming more and more vital. Shortest distance between two points.
As for Hughes, he still won't command as much money as Phil and to date (when factoring cost,draft position, production with injury) has outplayed Taylor.
Hughes has been our top rated DL for 2 straight years and has also been our #1 ranked DL against the run. Aside from the injury this season, he's the most productive......just dont understand wanting to get rid of him at all....
Hughes has been our top rated DL for 2 straight years and has also been our #1 ranked DL against the run. Aside from the injury this season, he's the most productive......just dont understand wanting to get rid of him at all....
You have Hughes who, as of today, is our best run stopper. You have Desmond who, as of today, is our best pass rusher on the interior. Neither of them are in danger of being replaced. Especially when you toss in Farmers idea of sending out waves of 'specialty' players.
Which brings me back to my original point. Taylor and Kitchen would be the most likely. The two least likely (for this year) are Desmond and Hughes. Barring something crazy happening.
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It may be a moot point if one of these guys gets hurt in preseason, but I think Kitchen and Winn are the guys likely to be cut. Barnett and McDaniel are done...
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Id debate the whole "who costs more", as Des Bryant is the 5th highest paid Brown and makes almost triple what any other linemen make.....if anybodies overpaid, it's Desmond Bryant....
This. However Desmond brings a pass rushing ability to this front that only Cooper may be able to match. In this day and age when getting to the QB is at a premium, interior big men that can cause havoc in the passing lanes is becoming more and more vital. Shortest distance between two points.
As for Hughes, he still won't command as much money as Phil and to date (when factoring cost,draft position, production with injury) has outplayed Taylor.
This. However Desmond brings a pass rushing ability to this front that only Cooper may be able to match. In this day and age when getting to the QB is at a premium, interior big men that can cause havoc in the passing lanes is becoming more and more vital. Shortest distance between two points.
As for Hughes, he still won't command as much money as Phil and to date (when factoring cost,draft position, production with injury) has outplayed Taylor.
Id debate the whole "who costs more", as Des Bryant is the 5th highest paid Brown and makes almost triple what any other linemen make.....if anybodies overpaid, it's Desmond Bryant....
I was looking at Monty's contract and Des's stats...that was a brain fart. Des is making a significant amount of change.
This. However Desmond brings a pass rushing ability to this front that only Cooper may be able to match. In this day and age when getting to the QB is at a premium, interior big men that can cause havoc in the passing lanes is becoming more and more vital. Shortest distance between two points.
As for Hughes, he still won't command as much money as Phil and to date (when factoring cost,draft position, production with injury) has outplayed Taylor.
He has outplayed Taylor, I agree. However, I get the feeling that Taylor is going to be in on at least 500 snaps this year, along with Shelton.
Starks, Winn, Des and Hughes are versatile enough to rotate anywhere along the line.
Shelton, Taylor and Kitchen can rotate at 0.
Shelton, Taylor, Starks, Des, Hughes and Cooper can rotate at 3.
Starks, Des, Cooper and Winn can rotate at 5.
By production, versatility and numbers, Kitchen is the odd man out. By contract, Des is the odd man out. For a straight up roster cut, either of those two make sense.
What I was saying, though, is that I'd rather try and recoup something than straight up release a player...and Hughes probably gives us the most value on the market. He's young enough, productive enough, and versatile enough to provide solid mid-round value...while his injury history, contract, and our depth make him the best fit to get rid of.
Overall, our talent at the top means that we won't take a much of a loss at all losing Hughes, Kitchen, Winn or Des. All four of those guys are going to be 100-200 snap players with the current roster we have. Therefore, I would personally rather see us transition that value to somewhere else via trade, rather than a straight up roster cut.
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Reason I make room for Kitchen is the value of the 0 in this D... plus the heightened likelihood of injury inside. Hughes is the alternative, but just has not produced in the position and may well be the odd man out.
But I think the possibility of carrying an 8th D-lineman is there. The offset would likely be one less CB, which due to a combo of PUP, dual roles in the secondary and non-names making the PS seems fairly low risk.
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I think we can safely say the guys we picked up this offseason are safe - Shelton, Cooper and Starks. Hughes was just given a big contract, so I'm assuming he's safe as well. The rest of the guys - Bryant has looked one of our better DLs when healthy. He's taking home a lot of money and has missed quite a few games. Same goes for Phil Taylor, whose fifth year option is for about $5.5m, and has played maybe 10 games in two years.
Kitchen is a cheap option, and depending how they see the future of Taylor can stay or go. Can't see them both staying in the long term. Winn is also cheap and looked good in parts and I think gets to stay another year at least. Either of these guys could be cut, but I think Kitchen goes and Winn stays.
Anybody think we're seeing any trades going down for one of our abundance of linemen?
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Monty will still be considered depth at the 3-4 DE position. We really look deep now, I love it.
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