American churches are under attack by the Obamao-gay leftist militant coalition
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I mean, theres a fundamental lack of understanding from Cal and others on his side regarding the surrounding facts of this issue. Namely, being gay is not a choice. It is genetic.
Also, I haven't mentioned mosques because the OP is about churches. Anything I am saying in regards to churches and Christianity goes the same for any other religion.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
It's very simple, profoundly simple infact. I firmly believe that churches should be able to do what they want. If they want to preach discrimination and hatred in their churches and sing songs about ain't no fags making it to heaven.....have at it. But not one penny of govt subsidization. For anything. You're cut loose. Bon voyage. No more tax exemption no nothing. Now we'll see just how Christian people really are in this country when they have to pony up a hell of a lot more to keep their church's afloat than the few dollars they put in the basket every sunday. Time to be grownups.
It's very simple, profoundly simple infact. I firmly believe that churches should be able to do what they want. If they want to preach discrimination and hatred in their churches and sing songs about ain't no fags making it to heaven.....have at it. But not one penny of govt subsidization. For anything. You're cut loose. Bon voyage. No more tax exemption no nothing. Now we'll see just how Christian people really are in this country when they have to pony up a hell of a lot more to keep their church's afloat than the few dollars they put in the basket every sunday. Time to be grownups.
I know you're trying to sound like you're meeting people halfway or something, but in reality your argument is poorly thought out.
Following the tenets of your religion does not equate to preaching hate. I've been in a variety of churches - from Trad Cath to Methodist to "Hard Shell" Baptist and never, ever, ever heard from the pulpit that God hates anyone. God might not approve of some actions, faggotry being among them, but God doesn't hate fags - He just wants them to stop fagging and doesn't want his workers to grant the title of marriage to those practicing faggotry. Westwood Baptist or whatever is far from typical.
Hate speech from the pulpit is a dog whistle statement that is rare. (unless you go to Jeremiah Wright's Church) The qualifier is that the mores of the population have changed so greatly in the last generation that what was deemed as sinful is not "hateful" for calling out that sin.
I'm fine with no tax exemptions for churches. There are few true Christians who would even blink at trading a tax exempt status for true doctrine.
Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand -
I mean, theres a fundamental lack of understanding from Cal and others on his side regarding the surrounding facts of this issue. Namely, being gay is not a choice. It is genetic.
Also, I haven't mentioned mosques because the OP is about churches. Anything I am saying in regards to churches and Christianity goes the same for any other religion.
I mean, theres a fundamental lack of understanding from Cal and others on his side regarding the surrounding facts of this issue. Namely, being gay is not a choice. It is genetic.
Also, I haven't mentioned mosques because the OP is about churches. Anything I am saying in regards to churches and Christianity goes the same for any other religion.
I accept that it is a genetic defect. We should be looking at ways to cure it medically.
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Cal, who would choose to be gay? Logic
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Ah. I figured this is how Dr. Ben Carson feels sometimes. lol
You have to go back and read the words I posted.
I said "Gay is a chosen behavior". I'm saying being known to be gay, outside of being informed by somebody else....... is a chosen behavior. I'm saying
that when a gay person makes it obvious that they are gay, they are engaging in a chosen behavior.
Acting out on being gay is a chosen behavior. Okay, so maybe BEING gay isn't. But going to a Christian baker,
to force them to bake you a cake, haha, and sue them for big money if they refuse... IS A CHOSEN BEHAVIOR.
If not for their behavior, how the hell would anybody else know that they were gay in the first place?
AGAIN, I knew employees in my company who were gay, but I never knew it until a close friend of theirs (opposite sex btw),
told me. And they never knew I knew about it, because I always treated them exactly like anybody else, in meetings I ran, working with them on new custom software I was going to design and write for them....... I could never tell outside
of being informed. But I would never accept the behavior outside of work. I wouldn't have accepted it at work, either, but that never
materialized.
When gay people act out in a way that you know is gay, that is their chosen behavior.
I don't think anyone would ever choose to be gay. But if their behavior reflects it, then that is their chosen behavior.
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It's very simple, profoundly simple infact. I firmly believe that churches should be able to do what they want. If they want to preach discrimination and hatred in their churches and sing songs about ain't no fags making it to heaven.....have at it. But not one penny of govt subsidization. For anything. You're cut loose. Bon voyage. No more tax exemption no nothing. Now we'll see just how Christian people really are in this country when they have to pony up a hell of a lot more to keep their church's afloat than the few dollars they put in the basket every sunday. Time to be grownups.
I know you're trying to sound like you're meeting people halfway or something, but in reality your argument is poorly thought out.
Following the tenets of your religion does not equate to preaching hate. I've been in a variety of churches - from Trad Cath to Methodist to "Hard Shell" Baptist and never, ever, ever heard from the pulpit that God hates anyone. God might not approve of some actions, faggotry being among them, but God doesn't hate fags - He just wants them to stop fagging and doesn't want his workers to grant the title of marriage to those practicing faggotry. Westwood Baptist or whatever is far from typical.
Hate speech from the pulpit is a dog whistle statement that is rare. (unless you go to Jeremiah Wright's Church) The qualifier is that the mores of the population have changed so greatly in the last generation that what was deemed as sinful is not "hateful" for calling out that sin.
I'm fine with no tax exemptions for churches. There are few true Christians who would even blink at trading a tax exempt status for true doctrine.
I know you're trying to sound like you're meeting people halfway or something, but in reality your argument is poorly thought out.
Following the tenets of your religion does not equate to preaching hate. I've been in a variety of churches - from Trad Cath to Methodist to "Hard Shell" Baptist and never, ever, ever heard from the pulpit that God hates anyone. God might not approve of some actions, faggotry being among them, but God doesn't hate fags - He just wants them to stop fagging and doesn't want his workers to grant the title of marriage to those practicing faggotry. Westwood Baptist or whatever is far from typical.
Hate speech from the pulpit is a dog whistle statement that is rare. (unless you go to Jeremiah Wright's Church) The qualifier is that the mores of the population have changed so greatly in the last generation that what was deemed as sinful is not "hateful" for calling out that sin.
I'm fine with no tax exemptions for churches. There are few true Christians who would even blink at trading a tax exempt status for true doctrine.
I laughed so hard at god wanting fags to stop fagging. In any case, yeah I don't have a problem with people preaching in their churches that fgtry is wrong and against their beleifs. The problem is they very often go further than that, and then they go even further by trying to impose their "faith" on the rest of us. We as a society have come to grips that gay people aren't evil, in fact some of the most decent human beings going are infact gays. I don't know necessarily why that is, but it is.
And I soundly disagree that few Christians would blink at trading tax status. They want their cake and eat it too, it's all you hear about every night. They want to be able to do what they do and when someone brings up their tax status they yell and scream about how that's not the point. But it is.
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Cal, who would choose to be gay? For that matter, it would mean that everyone who is straight made a decision to be so. I don't know about the rest of you guys put pecker sucking was not something that I had to willfully decline as a life decision.
Cal, who would choose to be gay? For that matter, it would mean that everyone who is straight made a decision to be so. I don't know about the rest of you guys put pecker sucking was not something that I had to willfully decline as a life decision.
You've touched weiner at least once in your life...I can tell.
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Violating one's "freedom of relgion" and spiritual beliefs is not discrimation.
I figure Cleve, Woody and Chris would be hating the Muslim mosque that
refuses gay weddings, and open gays attending....
or would they?
Black is a skin color. Gay is a chosen behavior. Objecting and refusing to condone in any way said behavior is not
discrimination.
Refusing to treat a black person solely for the color of their skin is discrimination.
Finer points of reasoning are always lost on emotional knee jerksies.
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Cal, who would choose to be gay? For that matter, it would mean that everyone who is straight made a decision to be so. I don't know about the rest of you guys put pecker sucking was not something that I had to willfully decline as a life decision.
You've touched weiner at least once in your life...I can tell.
You've touched weiner at least once in your life...I can tell.
They tried to force us to touch one at the "choose your sexuality" ceremony that all boys go through at age 7.
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You've touched weiner at least once in your life...I can tell.
They tried to force us to touch one at the "choose your sexuality" ceremony that all boys go through at age 7.
They tried to force us to touch one at the "choose your sexuality" ceremony that all boys go through at age 7.
They put the sorting Weiner on hid head, and the Weiner yelled out "heterosexual!"
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Cal, who would choose to be gay? Logic
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Ah. I figured this is how Dr. Ben Carson feels sometimes. lol
You have to go back and read the words I posted.
I said "Gay is a chosen behavior". I'm saying being known to be gay, outside of being informed by somebody else....... is a chosen behavior. I'm saying
that when a gay person makes it obvious that they are gay, they are engaging in a chosen behavior.
Acting out on being gay is a chosen behavior. Okay, so maybe BEING gay isn't. But going to a Christian baker,
to force them to bake you a cake, haha, and sue them for big money if they refuse... IS A CHOSEN BEHAVIOR.
If not for their behavior, how the hell would anybody else know that they were gay in the first place?
AGAIN, I knew employees in my company who were gay, but I never knew it until a close friend of theirs (opposite sex btw),
told me. And they never knew I knew about it, because I always treated them exactly like anybody else, in meetings I ran, working with them on new custom software I was going to design and write for them....... I could never tell outside
of being informed. But I would never accept the behavior outside of work. I wouldn't have accepted it at work, either, but that never
materialized.
When gay people act out in a way that you know is gay, that is their chosen behavior.
I don't think anyone would ever choose to be gay. But if their behavior reflects it, then that is their chosen behavior.
Cal, who would choose to be gay? Logic
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Ah. I figured this is how Dr. Ben Carson feels sometimes. lol
You have to go back and read the words I posted.
I said "Gay is a chosen behavior". I'm saying being known to be gay, outside of being informed by somebody else....... is a chosen behavior. I'm saying
that when a gay person makes it obvious that they are gay, they are engaging in a chosen behavior.
Acting out on being gay is a chosen behavior. Okay, so maybe BEING gay isn't. But going to a Christian baker,
to force them to bake you a cake, haha, and sue them for big money if they refuse... IS A CHOSEN BEHAVIOR.
If not for their behavior, how the hell would anybody else know that they were gay in the first place?
AGAIN, I knew employees in my company who were gay, but I never knew it until a close friend of theirs (opposite sex btw),
told me. And they never knew I knew about it, because I always treated them exactly like anybody else, in meetings I ran, working with them on new custom software I was going to design and write for them....... I could never tell outside
of being informed. But I would never accept the behavior outside of work. I wouldn't have accepted it at work, either, but that never
materialized.
When gay people act out in a way that you know is gay, that is their chosen behavior.
I don't think anyone would ever choose to be gay. But if their behavior reflects it, then that is their chosen behavior.
Yeah, gays can be gay as long as they stay hidden. I hate when gays act out and do things like ask to get married.
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They tried to force us to touch one at the "choose your sexuality" ceremony that all boys go through at age 7.
They put the sorting Weiner on hid head, and the Weiner yelled out "heterosexual!"
They put the sorting Weiner on hid head, and the Weiner yelled out "heterosexual!"
does it check for purty moufs or something before it makes it's decision?
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They put the sorting Weiner on hid head, and the Weiner yelled out "heterosexual!"
does it check for purty moufs or something before it makes it's decision?
does it check for purty moufs or something before it makes it's decision?
What? No. That would be weird...
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Gays are a comin' for you, cal
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Gays are a comin' for you, cal
Gays are a comin' for you, cal
100%...coming for his booty hole.
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Gays are a comin' for you, cal
Gays are a comin' for you, cal
Wait until they are allowed to get married. There will be numerous proposals heading in his direction.
Because, after all, the world will come to an end
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Cal hates "feelings" and "emotions" because he's afraid of what they might mean...
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
Violating one's "freedom of relgion" and spiritual beliefs is not discrimation.
I figure Cleve, Woody and Chris would be hating the Muslim mosque that
refuses gay weddings, and open gays attending....
or would they?
Black is a skin color. Gay is a chosen behavior. Objecting and refusing to condone in any way said behavior is not
discrimination.
Refusing to treat a black person solely for the color of their skin is discrimination.
Finer points of reasoning are always lost on emotional knee jerksies.
Violating one's "freedom of relgion" and spiritual beliefs is not discrimation.
I figure Cleve, Woody and Chris would be hating the Muslim mosque that
refuses gay weddings, and open gays attending....
or would they?
Black is a skin color. Gay is a chosen behavior. Objecting and refusing to condone in any way said behavior is not
discrimination.
Refusing to treat a black person solely for the color of their skin is discrimination.
Finer points of reasoning are always lost on emotional knee jerksies.
Where did you have your gay wedding at? Are you and Wally White still together?
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ha. ha. ha.
It's you hecklers that are having a cow about my Chik Fil A pic.
Nah, we have concealed carry in Ohio....
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