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TE Jeff Heuerman tears ACL

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  • Not a doctor but all this overtraining and getting extreme muscle mass can't be good for ligaments and tendons. I'm not sure a 6'4" 250 pound guy was supposed to be 4.4 40 fast.

  • Flies, not fly's

  • ACL tears are impossible to predict - but I personally believe overdeveloped quads and underdeveloped hamstrings are to blame.

  • Flies, not fly's

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Flies, not fly's

    If you're referring to the weight lifting move, I always see it spelled flyes.

    Edit: Nevermind, now I see you're referring to the OP.

  • This typically would happen to the Browns.....or any other Cleveland team (see Love/Irving/Shumpert injuries). All I can say is, if it is going to happen, better them than us. "We" have already had this sort of thing happen too many times.

  • ACL tears are impossible to predict - but I personally believe overdeveloped quads and underdeveloped hamstrings are to blame.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    ACL tears are impossible to predict - but I personally believe overdeveloped quads and underdeveloped hamstrings are to blame.

    This. If someone has hamstring issues or strength imbalances that aren't proportionate with the rest of the leg, your knee(s) will suffer for it. Good call.

  • Not following how a front to back thigh imbalance would increase the chance that a knee ligament would rupture...

  • Not following how a front to back thigh imbalance would increase the chance that a knee ligament would rupture...

    @tour2ma said:

    Not following how a front to back thigh imbalance would increase the chance that a knee ligament would rupture...

    Its not a definitive "this is the reason why" however, I do see many people that lack attention to the hamstrings.

    As for how it could increase the chance? Pretty simple, your hammy's are a muscle group that basically have cross attachments on the back of your knees that aid in strength and stability.

  • Not following how a front to back thigh imbalance would increase the chance that a knee ligament would rupture...

    @tour2ma said:

    Not following how a front to back thigh imbalance would increase the chance that a knee ligament would rupture...

    The hamstrings are a dynamic stabilizer of the knee, working with the ACL to reduce shearing forces. If the hamstrings are weak as knee flexors, the ACL is then forced to absorb a disproportionate amount of the shearing forces on the knee. If the hamstrings are not properly developed and the shearing forces on the knee are too high, the result is usually a torn ACL. Leg curls are a great exercise for developing the hamstrings to assist in the reduction of shearing forces on the knee.

    (I wish I could say that I had that knowledge floating around in my head, but I pulled it from this site.)

    However, it echoes the sentiment that I've always held ever since I tore my ACL years ago - underdeveloped hamstrings (as a direct result of poorly designed strength training regimens) are a very large contributor to ACL injuries.

    Extremely generally - Many strength training programs, especially in high school and lower-level colleges, only focus on traditional "push" exercises - squats, leg press, leg extensions, etc. The reason for this is that football is generally a "push" sport.

    Many hamstring exercises are not "push" exercises, they are "pull" exercises. Further, many of the strength programs that do focus on hamstring exercises just slap on a "4x12 leg curl" set of instructions - so athletes just crank out a four sets of poorly executed leg curls and then move on to the bench, or squat, or any other "high profile" exercise. In truth, the best hamstring exercises are controlled negatives.

  • I went for the short and sweet response. My bad.

  • And why should we care?.. This happens to us all the time..

  • I went for the short and sweet response. My bad.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I went for the short and sweet response. My bad.

    It's the thought that counts....

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Many hamstring exercises are not "push" exercises, they are "pull" exercises. Further, many of the strength programs that do focus on hamstring exercises just slap on a "4x12 leg curl" set of instructions - so athletes just crank out a four sets of poorly executed leg curls and then move on to the bench, or squat, or any other "high profile" exercise. In truth, the best hamstring exercises are controlled negatives.

    So basically for the hammies you roll over and lay on a bench face down locking your heels under the upper leg curl bar? Always wondered what that was for... 😉

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I went for the short and sweet response. My bad.

    It's the thought that counts....

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Many hamstring exercises are not "push" exercises, they are "pull" exercises. Further, many of the strength programs that do focus on hamstring exercises just slap on a "4x12 leg curl" set of instructions - so athletes just crank out a four sets of poorly executed leg curls and then move on to the bench, or squat, or any other "high profile" exercise. In truth, the best hamstring exercises are controlled negatives.

    So basically for the hammies you roll over and lay on a bench face down locking your heels under the upper leg curl bar? Always wondered what that was for... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    It's the thought that counts....

    So basically for the hammies you roll over and lay on a bench face down locking your heels under the upper leg curl bar? Always wondered what that was for... 😉

    Try that one at the gym next time and see if it doesn't end up on the Internet, haha.