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  • hope that helped

    @clevfan4life said:

    hope that helped

    It may have helped to dumb others down but not yours truly.

    I am fully aware of Ukraines tumultuous history. During much of its existence this embattled country has been at war either with the Turks from the south, the Poles from the west or the Russians from the east...all seeking to annex the richest soil in the region known as " the breadbasket of Europe". I also know that Stalin attempted genocide by murdering 11 million Ukrainians through starvation.

    I also know that the region known as the Ukraine was first settled by the ancient Norsemen and the Mongols. Not many, but from time to time you will see a Ukrainian with the typical high cheekbones common among Mongols.

    Anyone recall the famous actor Jack Palance and those high cheekbones of his? Jack is Ukrainian.

    I also know the upper half of the Ukrainine flag is half blue, and the lower half yellow to represent blue skies and wheat fields. The religion of Ukrainians is either Ukrainian Catholic, or Ukrainian Orthodox.

    I also know Ukraine was under the control of Austria Hungary during WWI. I also know that when WWI broke out Ukrainian immigrants in Canada, because they possessed Austria-Hungary citizenship, were rounded up and placed in internment camps, similar to what we did to the Japs during WWII.

    I also know that while under the rule of the hated Russians, some Ukrainians voluntarily sided with Germany during WWII, and many of the Ukes that were captured were forced into jobs as death camp prison guards...remember Seven Hills resident John Demjanyuk? He be one.

    I also know Ukraine was under the control of Austria- Hungary during WWI. I also know that when WWI broke out, Ukrainian immigrants in Canada, even though they weren't Austria, but because they possessed Austria-Hungary citizenship, were rounded up and placed in internment camps, similar to what we did to the Japs during WWII.

    I know all that because I'm fuckin Ukrainian.

    I learned about the Canadian interment camps because I read about that in a book... "Land of Pain, Land of Promise, First Person Accounts by Ukrainian Pioneers", the account of one of the pioneers recorded in this book? My grandfather. Google the book

    So Cleve from atop of your liberal perch of superiority explain to everyone why Putin "had" to annex the Crimea.

    The fact that the Ukraine has in it sights to join the European Union would be a possibility. That would put the EU at Russias doorstep which wouldn't sit well with Putin.

    You have that possibility or these 4 others. So which ever one you decide on we'll go with that because you know so much about the region.

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/analysis/why-did-putin-take-crimea-250919841.html

  • A thousand words about Cleve getting his due process:kick.gif

  • @clevfan4life said:

    hope that helped

    It may have helped to dumb others down but not yours truly.

    I am fully aware of Ukraines tumultuous history. During much of its existence this embattled country has been at war either with the Turks from the south, the Poles from the west or the Russians from the east...all seeking to annex the richest soil in the region known as " the breadbasket of Europe". I also know that Stalin attempted genocide by murdering 11 million Ukrainians through starvation.

    I also know that the region known as the Ukraine was first settled by the ancient Norsemen and the Mongols. Not many, but from time to time you will see a Ukrainian with the typical high cheekbones common among Mongols.

    Anyone recall the famous actor Jack Palance and those high cheekbones of his? Jack is Ukrainian.

    I also know the upper half of the Ukrainine flag is half blue, and the lower half yellow to represent blue skies and wheat fields. The religion of Ukrainians is either Ukrainian Catholic, or Ukrainian Orthodox.

    I also know Ukraine was under the control of Austria Hungary during WWI. I also know that when WWI broke out Ukrainian immigrants in Canada, because they possessed Austria-Hungary citizenship, were rounded up and placed in internment camps, similar to what we did to the Japs during WWII.

    I also know that while under the rule of the hated Russians, some Ukrainians voluntarily sided with Germany during WWII, and many of the Ukes that were captured were forced into jobs as death camp prison guards...remember Seven Hills resident John Demjanyuk? He be one.

    I also know Ukraine was under the control of Austria- Hungary during WWI. I also know that when WWI broke out, Ukrainian immigrants in Canada, even though they weren't Austria, but because they possessed Austria-Hungary citizenship, were rounded up and placed in internment camps, similar to what we did to the Japs during WWII.

    I know all that because I'm fuckin Ukrainian.

    I learned about the Canadian interment camps because I read about that in a book... "Land of Pain, Land of Promise, First Person Accounts by Ukrainian Pioneers", the account of one of the pioneers recorded in this book? My grandfather. Google the book

    So Cleve from atop of your liberal perch of superiority explain to everyone why Putin "had" to annex the Crimea.

    The fact that the Ukraine has in it sights to join the European Union would be a possibility. That would put the EU at Russias doorstep which wouldn't sit well with Putin.

    You have that possibility or these 4 others. So which ever one you decide on we'll go with that because you know so much about the region.

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/analysis/why-did-putin-take-crimea-250919841.html

    Stuart said:

    It may have helped to dumb others down but not yours truly.

    I am fully aware of Ukraines tumultuous history. During much of its existence this embattled country has been at war either with the Turks from the south, the Poles from the west or the Russians from the east...all seeking to annex the richest soil in the region known as " the breadbasket of Europe". I also know that Stalin attempted genocide by murdering 11 million Ukrainians through starvation.

    I also know that the region known as the Ukraine was first settled by the ancient Norsemen and the Mongols. Not many, but from time to time you will see a Ukrainian with the typical high cheekbones common among Mongols.

    Anyone recall the famous actor Jack Palance and those high cheekbones of his? Jack is Ukrainian.

    I also know the upper half of the Ukrainine flag is half blue, and the lower half yellow to represent blue skies and wheat fields. The religion of Ukrainians is either Ukrainian Catholic, or Ukrainian Orthodox.

    I also know Ukraine was under the control of Austria Hungary during WWI. I also know that when WWI broke out Ukrainian immigrants in Canada, because they possessed Austria-Hungary citizenship, were rounded up and placed in internment camps, similar to what we did to the Japs during WWII.

    I also know that while under the rule of the hated Russians, some Ukrainians voluntarily sided with Germany during WWII, and many of the Ukes that were captured were forced into jobs as death camp prison guards...remember Seven Hills resident John Demjanyuk? He be one.

    I also know Ukraine was under the control of Austria- Hungary during WWI. I also know that when WWI broke out, Ukrainian immigrants in Canada, even though they weren't Austria, but because they possessed Austria-Hungary citizenship, were rounded up and placed in internment camps, similar to what we did to the Japs during WWII.

    I know all that because I'm fuckin Ukrainian.

    I learned about the Canadian interment camps because I read about that in a book... "Land of Pain, Land of Promise, First Person Accounts by Ukrainian Pioneers", the account of one of the pioneers recorded in this book? My grandfather. Google the book

    So Cleve from atop of your liberal perch of superiority explain to everyone why Putin "had" to annex the Crimea.

    The fact that the Ukraine has in it sights to join the European Union would be a possibility. That would put the EU at Russias doorstep which wouldn't sit well with Putin.

    You have that possibility or these 4 others. So which ever one you decide on we'll go with that because you know so much about the region.

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/analysis/why-did-putin-take-crimea-250919841.html

    you profess to be Ukrainian but don't know explicitly why Putin had no choice but to take Crimea? My best friends wife is Ukrainian and told me why before it really even came out in the news. I skimmed your stupidity so i'm not 100% sure why Canada was put in your response as to why Putin had to take Crimea. Not saying Ukrainians are "happy" that Crimea was annexed, but at least they know why. At least the smart ones. You must have been born here then I guess cause mainland Ukranians know exactly why Crimea is so important to Russia.

  • still clueless? I want to hear from "YOU" stuart, since you're a card carrying Ukrainian...not some article that surmises multiple reasons. There's one simple reason and every Ukrainian who knows shit knows about Crimea and why Russia can never let it go. In fact, the U.S has a virtually identical situation with a piece of land that we would absolutely never let go and we would assfuck the locals just like Putin did if they thought they would leave the union.

  • blah blah Cleve went and read up in a history google on a point.

    boring.

  • blah blah Cleve went and read up in a history google on a point.

    boring.

    @calfoxwc said:

    blah blah Cleve went and read up in a history google on a point.

    boring.

    Do you know just how badly that sentence was constructed? Did you go through high school?

  • Cleve - too bad you don't have any good stuff. You are more verbose than woody, but you

    seem to lack analytical perception skills.

    I'm sure you always talk in complete, proper sentences. When I was a kid, there was

    a classmate who was autistic or something. He knew math to whatever degree. We'd ask

    him, all too often, sadly, the hardest math problems we could think of - like a seven and sixty-eight

    thousand multiplied by 458.4 - and he could give us the answer in a few seconds.

    We'd have to go to our teacher to find out if that was the real answer. It always was.

    And he always talked in complete sentences.

    I guess you could say he was an idiot savant. You're like an idiot savant - without the

    savant part.

  • Cleve - too bad you don't have any good stuff. You are more verbose than woody, but you

    seem to lack analytical perception skills.

    I'm sure you always talk in complete, proper sentences. When I was a kid, there was

    a classmate who was autistic or something. He knew math to whatever degree. We'd ask

    him, all too often, sadly, the hardest math problems we could think of - like a seven and sixty-eight

    thousand multiplied by 458.4 - and he could give us the answer in a few seconds.

    We'd have to go to our teacher to find out if that was the real answer. It always was.

    And he always talked in complete sentences.

    I guess you could say he was an idiot savant. You're like an idiot savant - without the

    savant part.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Cleve - too bad you don't have any good stuff. You are more verbose than woody, but you

    seem to lack analytical perception skills.

    I'm sure you always talk in complete, proper sentences. When I was a kid, there was

    a classmate who was autistic or something. He knew math to whatever degree. We'd ask

    him, all too often, sadly, the hardest math problems we could think of - like a seven and sixty-eight

    thousand multiplied by 458.4 - and he could give us the answer in a few seconds.

    We'd have to go to our teacher to find out if that was the real answer. It always was.

    And he always talked in complete sentences.

    I guess you could say he was an idiot savant. You're like an idiot savant - without the

    savant part.

    Oh you're just a drunk then...my bad.

  • 1. I don't "drink"

    2. If'n I did, and was drunk, I could still outwit you ina thinkin contest.

    3. You need to learn what's funny, and what ain't. You don't know either one.

  • 1. I don't "drink"

    2. If'n I did, and was drunk, I could still outwit you ina thinkin contest.

    3. You need to learn what's funny, and what ain't. You don't know either one.

    @calfoxwc said:

    1. I don't "drink"

    2. If'n I did, and was drunk, I could still outwit you ina thinkin contest.

    3. You need to learn what's funny, and what ain't. You don't know either one.

    1) gtfo

    2) Not even with Siri hard wired into your brain stem

    3) Do you read your own posts?