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  • wargograw W One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    I don't know why people insist on exaggerating in order to tear a guy down when the facts are solid and well established. Johnny is 5'11 3/4". That was measured at the combine where I believe they go barefoot.

    I do agree a 6'6" center could be an issue.

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      IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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      I think the one big piece we were missing last year on the oline was a super sub. When Mack went down, well you all saw it too.

      I think McQuistan was supposed to be said super sub. But he sucked donkey dick.

      So if l were a betting man that's how l would bet Cam starts his pro career, as a non donkey dick sucking super sub.

      Say that 3 times real fast.

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        sisky fringoS sisky fringo wrote on last edited by sisky fringo
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        it's gotta be nice to have new toys to play with...

        had Mack not gone down, who believes we still go 7-9 last year?

        we lost Buster Skreene, Jordan Cameron, Atyba Rubin...who else? bess? fuck that asshole he's addition by subtraction, as is losing V.2014 afraid-to-stand-up-to-his-peers-formerly-elite-currently-knuckleheaded josh "grand bastard flash" gordon.

        returning healthy we get back a trim, toned and svelte (and no doubt rock effing solid) Alex Mack, Tashaun ballhawk Gipson, a perpetually underachieving Phil Taylor who just might FINALLY live up to his draft status, Killer K'uan Williams...

        rookies are now vets. hell even last year's #1 pick might show me enough to get his name typed out this year (if ur reading this u don't even deserve being typed lower case yet homey! GET IT THE FUCK TOGETHER, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!! that's 11 exclamation points bro, and i meant em all! make me buy ur fuckin jersey, dick!)

        in my opinion, we just had one of the best drafts since the return. yet to be seen, but maybe THE best. i absolutely loved it.

        bottom line, and this isn't just on paper, they are a better team today than they were a month ago. even w a "?" at TE.

        and whether it's versatility, talent, or simply bein a non donkey dick sucking super sub, Cam Erving has a lot to do with solving the puzzle.

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          I don't know why people insist on exaggerating in order to tear a guy down when the facts are solid and well established. Johnny is 5'11 3/4". That was measured at the combine where I believe they go barefoot.

          I do agree a 6'6" center could be an issue.

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          Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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          @wargograw said:

          I don't know why people insist on exaggerating in order to tear a guy down when the facts are solid and well established. Johnny is 5'11 3/4". That was measured at the combine where I believe they go barefoot.

          Wouldn't folks inclined to exaggerate say he's taller than he is?

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            W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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            You can't exaggerate on the other side?

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              You can't exaggerate on the other side?

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              Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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              @wargograw said:

              You can't exaggerate on the other side?

              you mean like calling him a midget, an elf or a muppet?

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                W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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                I don't care about that so much as using actual figures that are demonstrably false.

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                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                  midget, fidget or fadget..... this is his make or break year. if the coaches and FO don't see that he can play at the NFL level (in practice) then he'll prob be a 5' 113/4" not-worthy-of-much trade piece after the season.

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                    I don't care about that so much as using actual figures that are demonstrably false.

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @wargograw said:

                    I don't care about that so much as using actual figures that are demonstrably false.

                    I hear Johnny was seen back in bars over the weekend. Reported on local radio.

                    But, honestly, I don't care. He is not my friend or family and I don't care if he goes to bars and boozes it up.

                    Mickey Mantle and Joe Namath went to bars and boozed it up.....and they won football games. If Johnny can do that and win, more power to him. If he can ONLY play good QB by staying clean and sober, yes, that is what I would want. But if the opposite is true, that is fine with me.

                    Right now, honestly, I don't think any Browns fan should have any skin in the Johnny Manziel game. He should essentially be viewed as a Taxi Squad player that may or may not have some future value. No Browns fan should place any faith or reliability in the teams future on him. If he makes it, great. If not....he is just another of the litany of QBs that can go elsewhere and fail as badly in those places as he did here. (after all....name ONE of all those 22 starting QBs that left here to have a viable career.....none did. Colt McCoy has had a few starts, that's it. He can join McCoy/Frye/Quinn/Weeden/etc. etc. etc. on the pine.

                    We have about as much future it seems with Connor Shaw or Thad Lewis as with this guy.

                    Call us when he does anything.

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                      @wargograw said:

                      I don't care about that so much as using actual figures that are demonstrably false.

                      I hear Johnny was seen back in bars over the weekend. Reported on local radio.

                      But, honestly, I don't care. He is not my friend or family and I don't care if he goes to bars and boozes it up.

                      Mickey Mantle and Joe Namath went to bars and boozed it up.....and they won football games. If Johnny can do that and win, more power to him. If he can ONLY play good QB by staying clean and sober, yes, that is what I would want. But if the opposite is true, that is fine with me.

                      Right now, honestly, I don't think any Browns fan should have any skin in the Johnny Manziel game. He should essentially be viewed as a Taxi Squad player that may or may not have some future value. No Browns fan should place any faith or reliability in the teams future on him. If he makes it, great. If not....he is just another of the litany of QBs that can go elsewhere and fail as badly in those places as he did here. (after all....name ONE of all those 22 starting QBs that left here to have a viable career.....none did. Colt McCoy has had a few starts, that's it. He can join McCoy/Frye/Quinn/Weeden/etc. etc. etc. on the pine.

                      We have about as much future it seems with Connor Shaw or Thad Lewis as with this guy.

                      Call us when he does anything.

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                      Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                      @the-gipper said:

                      I hear Johnny was seen back in bars over the weekend. Reported on local radio.

                      But, honestly, I don't care. He is not my friend or family and I don't care if he goes to bars and boozes it up.

                      Mickey Mantle and Joe Namath went to bars and boozed it up.....and they won football games.

                      How many football games did Mickey Mantle win?

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                        @wargograw said:

                        I don't care about that so much as using actual figures that are demonstrably false.

                        I hear Johnny was seen back in bars over the weekend. Reported on local radio.

                        But, honestly, I don't care. He is not my friend or family and I don't care if he goes to bars and boozes it up.

                        Mickey Mantle and Joe Namath went to bars and boozed it up.....and they won football games. If Johnny can do that and win, more power to him. If he can ONLY play good QB by staying clean and sober, yes, that is what I would want. But if the opposite is true, that is fine with me.

                        Right now, honestly, I don't think any Browns fan should have any skin in the Johnny Manziel game. He should essentially be viewed as a Taxi Squad player that may or may not have some future value. No Browns fan should place any faith or reliability in the teams future on him. If he makes it, great. If not....he is just another of the litany of QBs that can go elsewhere and fail as badly in those places as he did here. (after all....name ONE of all those 22 starting QBs that left here to have a viable career.....none did. Colt McCoy has had a few starts, that's it. He can join McCoy/Frye/Quinn/Weeden/etc. etc. etc. on the pine.

                        We have about as much future it seems with Connor Shaw or Thad Lewis as with this guy.

                        Call us when he does anything.

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Colt McCoy has had a few starts, that's it. He can join McCoy/Frye/Quinn/Weeden/etc. etc. etc. on the pine.

                        PoG is grabbing at his chest right now....

                        @mark-o said:

                        How many football games did Mickey Mantle win?

                        LOL

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                          @the-gipper said:

                          I hear Johnny was seen back in bars over the weekend. Reported on local radio.

                          But, honestly, I don't care. He is not my friend or family and I don't care if he goes to bars and boozes it up.

                          Mickey Mantle and Joe Namath went to bars and boozed it up.....and they won football games.

                          How many football games did Mickey Mantle win?

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                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                          @mark-o said:

                          How many football games did Mickey Mantle win?

                          As you might expect The Mick was a great football player as well...but gave it up. Here is the wiki quote on his football career:

                          Mantle was an all-around athlete at Commerce High School, playing basketball as well as football (he was offered a football scholarship by the University of Oklahoma) in addition to his first love, baseball. His football playing nearly ended his athletic career, and indeed his life. Kicked in the left shin during a practice game during his sophomore year, Mantle's left ankle soon became infected with osteomyelitis, a crippling disease that was incurable just a few years earlier. A midnight drive to Tulsa, Oklahomaenabled him to be treated with newly available penicillin, saving his swollen left leg from amputation.[7]

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                            @mark-o said:

                            How many football games did Mickey Mantle win?

                            As you might expect The Mick was a great football player as well...but gave it up. Here is the wiki quote on his football career:

                            Mantle was an all-around athlete at Commerce High School, playing basketball as well as football (he was offered a football scholarship by the University of Oklahoma) in addition to his first love, baseball. His football playing nearly ended his athletic career, and indeed his life. Kicked in the left shin during a practice game during his sophomore year, Mantle's left ankle soon became infected with osteomyelitis, a crippling disease that was incurable just a few years earlier. A midnight drive to Tulsa, Oklahomaenabled him to be treated with newly available penicillin, saving his swollen left leg from amputation.[7]

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                            Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                            @the-gipper said:

                            As you might expect The Mick was a great football player as well...but gave it up. Here is the wiki quote on his football career:

                            Mantle was an all-around athlete at Commerce High School, playing basketball as well as football (he was offered a football scholarship by the University of Oklahoma) in addition to his first love, baseball. His football playing nearly ended his athletic career, and indeed his life. Kicked in the left shin during a practice game during his sophomore year, Mantle's left ankle soon became infected with osteomyelitis, a crippling disease that was incurable just a few years earlier. A midnight drive to Tulsa, Oklahomaenabled him to be treated with newly available penicillin, saving his swollen left leg from amputation.[7]

                            Im sure he was quite the football player but would seem that he won even less football games in the NFL than Colt McCoy! 😁😛

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                              @the-gipper said:

                              As you might expect The Mick was a great football player as well...but gave it up. Here is the wiki quote on his football career:

                              Mantle was an all-around athlete at Commerce High School, playing basketball as well as football (he was offered a football scholarship by the University of Oklahoma) in addition to his first love, baseball. His football playing nearly ended his athletic career, and indeed his life. Kicked in the left shin during a practice game during his sophomore year, Mantle's left ankle soon became infected with osteomyelitis, a crippling disease that was incurable just a few years earlier. A midnight drive to Tulsa, Oklahomaenabled him to be treated with newly available penicillin, saving his swollen left leg from amputation.[7]

                              Im sure he was quite the football player but would seem that he won even less football games in the NFL than Colt McCoy! 😁😛

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              @mark-o said:

                              Im sure he was quite the football player but would seem that he won even less football games in the NFL than Colt McCoy! 😁😛

                              In their prime as an athlete, I would have had the Browns traded McCoy straight up for The Mick....and taken my chances on converting him to a football player.

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                                You can't exaggerate on the other side?

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                                Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                                @wargograw said:

                                You can't exaggerate on the other side?

                                Probably.... but to avoid confusion that should be called "de-aggerate".

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                                  Do Schwartz or Greco play any center? I'm assuming this guy means Erving is playing those spots exclusively ie. no center, which is odd.

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                                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                  @wargograw said:

                                  Do Schwartz or Greco play any center? I'm assuming this guy means Erving is playing those spots exclusively ie. no center, which is odd.

                                  ERrving would be the #1 back-up at center and LT...the thinking is for him to start at RT and move Schwartz inside. The Browns want him to play this year. Mack is the center.

                                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                                    I would envision the starting 5 to be Thomas, Bitonio, Mack, Greco, Erving.

                                    Possibilities due to injury:

                                    If Thomas is injured: Erving, Bitonio, Mack, Greco, Schwartz

                                    If Mack is injured: Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, Schwartz

                                    If Thomas and Mack are injured: Bitonio, Schwartz, Erving, Greco, Bowie

                                    If Bitonio is injured: Thomas, Greco, Mack, Schwartz, Erving

                                    If Greco is injured: Thomas, Bitonio, Mack, Schwartz, Erving

                                    If Bitonio and Greco are injured: Thomas, Erving, Mack, Schwartz, Bowie

                                    If Erving is injured: Thomas, Bitonio, Mack, Greco, Schwarz

                                    If Thomas, Bitonio, and Mack are injured: Forfeit

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                                      I would envision the starting 5 to be Thomas, Bitonio, Mack, Greco, Erving.

                                      Possibilities due to injury:

                                      If Thomas is injured: Erving, Bitonio, Mack, Greco, Schwartz

                                      If Mack is injured: Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, Schwartz

                                      If Thomas and Mack are injured: Bitonio, Schwartz, Erving, Greco, Bowie

                                      If Bitonio is injured: Thomas, Greco, Mack, Schwartz, Erving

                                      If Greco is injured: Thomas, Bitonio, Mack, Schwartz, Erving

                                      If Bitonio and Greco are injured: Thomas, Erving, Mack, Schwartz, Bowie

                                      If Erving is injured: Thomas, Bitonio, Mack, Greco, Schwarz

                                      If Thomas, Bitonio, and Mack are injured: Forfeit

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                                      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                      @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

                                      Possibilities due to injury:

                                      If Thomas, Bitonio, and Mack are injured: Forfeit

                                      yeah, that could get pretty ugly.

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                                        @wargograw said:

                                        I don't care about that so much as using actual figures that are demonstrably false.

                                        I hear Johnny was seen back in bars over the weekend. Reported on local radio.

                                        But, honestly, I don't care. He is not my friend or family and I don't care if he goes to bars and boozes it up.

                                        Mickey Mantle and Joe Namath went to bars and boozed it up.....and they won football games. If Johnny can do that and win, more power to him. If he can ONLY play good QB by staying clean and sober, yes, that is what I would want. But if the opposite is true, that is fine with me.

                                        Right now, honestly, I don't think any Browns fan should have any skin in the Johnny Manziel game. He should essentially be viewed as a Taxi Squad player that may or may not have some future value. No Browns fan should place any faith or reliability in the teams future on him. If he makes it, great. If not....he is just another of the litany of QBs that can go elsewhere and fail as badly in those places as he did here. (after all....name ONE of all those 22 starting QBs that left here to have a viable career.....none did. Colt McCoy has had a few starts, that's it. He can join McCoy/Frye/Quinn/Weeden/etc. etc. etc. on the pine.

                                        We have about as much future it seems with Connor Shaw or Thad Lewis as with this guy.

                                        Call us when he does anything.

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        I hear Johnny was seen back in bars over the weekend. Reported on local radio.

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