Taking Christ's name in vain, Biden blasts biblical marriage 'bigots'
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That's great, and I hope you are happy either way, and I'm sure you will be. Personally, I'm sure that as long as someone leads a good life, a loving, just god would accept them either way and you'll end up in the same situation. If any god is not loving or just, I wouldn't be too happy about worshipping it.
But all that's irrelevant, people can believe what they want to believe. Just, leave anything that requires faith at the door when dealing with things that affect everyone who doesn't share that faith.
God is loving and just. That is why He sent His Son. Christians are called to share their faith. That is all I am doing. I know many Christians today who are grateful someone once reached out to them with the gospel (good news)
God is loving and just. That is why He sent His Son.
Then believing or not believing is irrelevant as long as we're good people?
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God is loving and just. That is why He sent His Son.
Then believing or not believing is irrelevant as long as we're good people?
Then believing or not believing is irrelevant as long as we're good people?
Jesus said you must be born again. There is only one way to be born again, Romans 10:9,10. I won't type the scripture as it won't hurt you to look it up.
It does not matter what your church denomination is what matters is are you born again?
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Then believing or not believing is irrelevant as long as we're good people?
Jesus said you must be born again. There is only one way to be born again, Romans 10:9,10. I won't type the scripture as it won't hurt you to look it up.
It does not matter what your church denomination is what matters is are you born again?
Jesus said you must be born again. There is only one way to be born again, Romans 10:9,10. I won't type the scripture as it won't hurt you to look it up.
It does not matter what your church denomination is what matters is are you born again?
So, it's compulsory to believe in god and jesus to enter heaven? Because, there are presumably people still alive today who have no concept of any abrahamic religion. A thousand years ago, there were probably many many more who didn't. Would a loving and just god create people, then give them no chance to enter heaven?
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Jesus said you must be born again. There is only one way to be born again, Romans 10:9,10. I won't type the scripture as it won't hurt you to look it up.
It does not matter what your church denomination is what matters is are you born again?
So, it's compulsory to believe in god and jesus to enter heaven? Because, there are presumably people still alive today who have no concept of any abrahamic religion. A thousand years ago, there were probably many many more who didn't. Would a loving and just god create people, then give them no chance to enter heaven?
So, it's compulsory to believe in god and jesus to enter heaven? Because, there are presumably people still alive today who have no concept of any abrahamic religion. A thousand years ago, there were probably many many more who didn't. Would a loving and just god create people, then give them no chance to enter heaven?
This is a good article that deals with that:
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So, it's compulsory to believe in god and jesus to enter heaven? Because, there are presumably people still alive today who have no concept of any abrahamic religion. A thousand years ago, there were probably many many more who didn't. Would a loving and just god create people, then give them no chance to enter heaven?
This is a good article that deals with that:
This is a good article that deals with that:
I'm struggling to find a response in there that isn't basically "fuck 'em, they should just know" - care to summarise a different angle?
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This is a good article that deals with that:
I'm struggling to find a response in there that isn't basically "fuck 'em, they should just know" - care to summarise a different angle?
I'm struggling to find a response in there that isn't basically "fuck 'em, they should just know" - care to summarise a different angle?
I will help you out:
"What happens to those who never heard the gospel. Romans teaches that God will judge people on what they know and are capable of knowing."
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Reeeeaaaallllllyyyy?
Still waiting for that time table.
Also, for the Koran and its teachings being 'brutal' lets not forget the Old Testament does have its moment that aren't shining examples of how to NOT be brutal.
Cal - please don't lump me in with other atheists. I carry a certain degree of faith, however much like anything else I apply logic and critical thinking to avoid full indoctrination.
I posted a link to a site with 50 signs we are living in the end times. if you can't see it pray about it.
I posted a link to a site with 50 signs we are living in the end times. if you can't see it pray about it.
Still asking for your prediction, please and thank you.
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A. I am not religious at all, don't go to church. Spiritual, yes. Christian, yes.
B. Tiam - I was just challenging your questions, not lumping you into anything.
C. Knowledge is wonderful. We advance as a society in many ways with more tech.
D. Sometimes I think tech is going to go way too far, and be misused.
E. I have never dissed atheists, agnostics, etc. for their not believing. On the flip side,
we keep getting ridicule about the Bible, and Christians, and morality.
F. You don't have to be a Christian, or believer in any religion at all, to be moral. I would have
the same morality if I were not a Christian. However - it isn't wisdom, nor intelligence, nor
knowledgeable ? nor educated, when you ridicule that which isn't learned in a university.
E. Science is awesome. Just medical advances alone, are incredible. But the point is, relying on
only science to understand life - I just don't see it, that's all.
F. When I was a kid, I nearly died in a spring in the dead of winter. Point - a few folks ridiculed that.
How is it that not believing invites ridicule to someone like me who does believe that a miracle happened?
G. When people who cherish life so much they despise the death penalty... but support abortion across the board..
where in the morality in that? Leave the Bible out of it - what moral compass allows someone to approve of
murdering innocent unborn and born children, and disapprove of murdering the horrifically guilty? Where is
the science in that? I see rationalization, and self-interest. There is no principle in that.
H. As old as the Bible is, it is still referring to events that happened back then, and happen now. It's a bit like
the monomyth. From the ancient times, to now, you can see very definate trends in literature, even in life.
How can science explain love? The craving of adventure? The chosen resoluteness to fight for freedom?
I. I see spiritualphobes where certain lovers of science are. Why be afraid of seeing life, and our universe, as more
than just a fluke of science? There are a lot of tough questions about religion, in my case, Christianity and the Bible.
There are also a lot of tough questions in science. There just aren't answers to every question.
J. I have to go back to work now.
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That's the thing that bugs me about atheists. Instead of saying its your right to believe what you want, they constantly berate you, berate the bible, etc. I have never seen anyone on here make fun of the unbelievers.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
I don't get how people think that becoming more educated, or less religious, means being more immoral in some way.
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That's the thing that bugs me about atheists. Instead of saying its your right to believe what you want, they constantly berate you, berate the bible, etc. I have never seen anyone on here make fun of the unbelievers.
That's the thing that bugs me about atheists. Instead of saying its your right to believe what you want, they constantly berate you, berate the bible, etc. I have never seen anyone on here make fun of the unbelievers.
I'm not an atheist but to be fair to them, they seem to be more incensed when their constantly exposed to other people's religions in a public square. I haven't heard one atheist in my life say what you do with yourself should be regulated. They're just saying keep your god away from public governance.
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One needs spirituality to be moral, otherwise it's the law of the jungle. It is not immoral for a wolf to eat a rabbit.
It is not immoral for the male wolf to fuck every female wolf in the pack. It is not immoral for the larger wolf eat more than the smaller wolves. etc etc etc
It just pisses the atheists off if he makes up his own set of spiritual morals and someone calls it religion.
WSS
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One needs spirituality to be moral, otherwise it's the law of the jungle. It is not immoral for a wolf to eat a rabbit.
It is not immoral for the male wolf to fuck every female wolf in the pack. It is not immoral for the larger wolf eat more than the smaller wolves. etc etc etc
It just pisses the atheists off if he makes up his own set of spiritual morals and someone calls it religion.
WSS
One needs spirituality to be moral, otherwise it's the law of the jungle. It is not immoral for a wolf to eat a rabbit.
It is not immoral for the male wolf to fuck every female wolf in the pack. It is not immoral for the larger wolf eat more than the smaller wolves. etc etc etc
It just pisses the atheists off if he makes up his own set of spiritual morals and someone calls it religion.
WSS
Spirituality can have zero to do with morals and basic social graces. I don't have to be spiritual to not want to fuck over my neighbor. If I need a higher power to make me not do those things then I am a scumbag.
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I posted a link to a site with 50 signs we are living in the end times. if you can't see it pray about it.
Still asking for your prediction, please and thank you.
Still asking for your prediction, please and thank you.
I don't think you ever got over your former pastor being wrong when he said thought it would happen within 20 years back in 1993. BTW - why do you seem so resentful about that? He got it wrong but he is not infallible. Nobody knows these things, If Jesus said only the Father knew I can tell you I don't know more than Jesus. If you read the article you can see the signs that the time is near. That is what we were to look for.
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When you're 10 summer vacation lasts forever. When you're 60 it lasts the blink of an eye.
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When you're 10 summer vacation lasts forever. When you're 60 it lasts the blink of an eye.
When you're 10 summer vacation lasts forever. When you're 60 it lasts the blink of an eye.
I heard a good theory on why time seems to go faster as you get older which made sense. When you are 6 years old, one year is one sixth of your entire life so a year seems like a long time. When you are 60 years old one year is now one sixtieth of your life and it is that proportion ratio which makes it seem like time goes faster as you get older.
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One needs spirituality to be moral, otherwise it's the law of the jungle. It is not immoral for a wolf to eat a rabbit.
It is not immoral for the male wolf to fuck every female wolf in the pack. It is not immoral for the larger wolf eat more than the smaller wolves. etc etc etc
It just pisses the atheists off if he makes up his own set of spiritual morals and someone calls it religion.
WSS
Spirituality can have zero to do with morals and basic social graces. I don't have to be spiritual to not want to fuck over my neighbor. If I need a higher power to make me not do those things then I am a scumbag.
I didn't say your decision had anything to do with you believing in a higher power. Spirituality as I see it in this case is you making a determination of good and evil for yourself. It is made up, no less than you consider any religious book, just by you. There's no scientific basis whatsoever. Like I said if the wolf wouldn't do it but you would you're creating a false reality. You are free to do what you like.Spirituality can have zero to do with morals and basic social graces. I don't have to be spiritual to not want to fuck over my neighbor. If I need a higher power to make me not do those things then I am a scumbag.
WSS
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That's the thing that bugs me about atheists. Instead of saying its your right to believe what you want, they constantly berate you, berate the bible, etc. I have never seen anyone on here make fun of the unbelievers.
That's the thing that bugs me about atheists. Instead of saying its your right to believe what you want, they constantly berate you, berate the bible, etc. I have never seen anyone on here make fun of the unbelievers.
Perhaps not on here, but there is plenty of venom spewed back and forth between the two groups all across this great country.
Sadly, both groups seemed to have missed quite possibly the biggest principle both science and religion bestows upon us - Humility.
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Still asking for your prediction, please and thank you.
I don't think you ever got over your former pastor being wrong when he said thought it would happen within 20 years back in 1993. BTW - why do you seem so resentful about that? He got it wrong but he is not infallible. Nobody knows these things, If Jesus said only the Father knew I can tell you I don't know more than Jesus. If you read the article you can see the signs that the time is near. That is what we were to look for.
I don't think you ever got over your former pastor being wrong when he said thought it would happen within 20 years back in 1993. BTW - why do you seem so resentful about that? He got it wrong but he is not infallible. Nobody knows these things, If Jesus said only the Father knew I can tell you I don't know more than Jesus. If you read the article you can see the signs that the time is near. That is what we were to look for.
But are these not the same signs that humanity has seen periodically throughout history just being recycled? Sure feels that way.
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